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Darren
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Re: OFFICIAL NEW FORUMS DISCUSSION THREAD - drop kicks NOT welcome

Sat, 26 November 2005 00:36

I think i'm one of the old timers (member #6 i think) that you're talking about and I feel Stewart nailed it with this comment.

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what pushes old timers away is the proliferation of morons who post anything and everything they think of, reply with crap when they don't actually know it to be true, and generally bring the level of technical content down.

In my case that is spot on and has nothing to do with the board.

From memory the forums were initially set up as a more organised way of discussing ideas, sharing knowledge and organising meets than the yahoo group. Receiving hundreds of emails a day and having no way of opting out of a discussion thread if you had no interest was painfull. But the way the forums are now has outgrown the current medium, the sheer volume of threads makes it impossible for any normal person to keep up with and contribute anything of value. I certainly have better things to do than plough through the crap.

The problem is compounded when you have thread headings like "help needed plz", if the last comment wasn't by Stewart I wouldn't have bothered to look. Post something like that on Performance Forums and you'll get verbally beaten to a pulp, ridiculed and humiliated. THEN they move the thread to "The Pool Room" so the ridicule and humiliation is preserved for all eternity. In my opinion it works, the bullshit level is limited to genuine humour.

Back to the point, the move to the new forums and making people accountable by forcing them to provide personal info is the best decision yet. I for one will be contributing more and I know of another guy with a wealth of knowledge that has signed up after being away for years. Sure it's still open to abuse but what is the next level? paid members only? Wouldn't that fire a few people up.

<cranky_bastard> As an additon i'd like to see the mods lighten up on limiting the flaming. If someone says something stupid they should get flamed for it, if they learn from the experience and stick around for another go then good for them. Alan is a classic example, that guy took some serious crap off some of us and gave it back in turn.
Yeah I know, can't do that, have to be sensitive to peoples feelings and make them feel good about themselves.
</cranky_bastard>

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I know of at least one very early club member and ex board member who basically got fed up with the forums as people (some n00bs) seem unwilling to try and help themselves anymore. Instead of doing some research and trying to learn something for themselves, they will simply join a forum and ask a question that they probably could have found the answer to without even trying that hard. These long term members will then be told to go and get fucked, for suggesting that these new members try to find the answer first.

Gee Lucid, you wouldn't be talking about me would you? Cranky old prick aren't I... I'll add that "research" goes a lot further than searching the net. Try things like putting some tools in a box, pay the $2 to get into Pick and Paymore and spend the day swapping bits from 1 wreck to another. It's a fun and educational experience.

Darren.

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