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blerk Occasional Poster Location: Wagga/Sydney Registered: May 2002	Re: "recreational" 4WD's IS IT JUST ME ???!!! Mon, 24 March 2003 22:36 My two cents... I drive my `90 Camry in the country (and get chauferred in a `74 Celica) and drive a short-wheel based Vitara 4WD when in the city/suburbia. I love the Suzi, even though it's no where near the BMW range of luxury. Did defensive driving course in it. (I am a good girl though and stay back from other cars at night because I know that everytime I go over a bump it can look like a flash of high-beams to the driver in front.) It hasn't seen a dirt track in about 5 years. It's high-up so I have better vision of the traffic in front of me. It's compact, it's easy to park (conveniently forgot how to reverse park after my L's!), it has way more glass area (windscreen more upright, taller windows) than the Celica. Plus you can go up gutters to find lucrative parking spots. With some of the major potholes in Sydney, mountains for speedhumps at some Maccas, plus with the dips at the end of some concrete driveways - you need a 4wd not to scrape or kill your shocks! Having higher centre of gravity, you gotta slow down a little more at corners than a normal car, but that's hardly a bad thing on the grand scheme of things. I also take longer-time-to-stop into account when driving. We aren't all bastards! Bigger (even if they go off-roading every weekend) 4WD drivers are often put-out by car-parks with a 1.93m height clearance....do they get special kerb parking spots outside shopping centres? No! (Not saying they should, just pointing out they don't always have it easy). As for bull-bars, don't get me started. Plus we've already had that argument. N.B: They make good seats while waiting for people. If I had the money to splurge (and the kids) - I would be a "luxury softroader mum". [Report message to a moderator]

	Subject	Poster	Date
	"recreational" 4WD's IS IT JUST ME ???!!!	bayka	Thu, 13 March 2003 18:02
	Re: "recreational" 4WD's IS IT JUST ME ???!!!	Apollo	Thu, 13 March 2003 21:18
	Re: "recreational" 4WD's IS IT JUST ME ???!!!	Classique71	Thu, 13 March 2003 21:45
	Re: "recreational" 4WD's IS IT JUST ME ???!!!	ra23celicachick	Thu, 13 March 2003 21:56
	Re: "recreational" 4WD's IS IT JUST ME ???!!!	Ronin	Thu, 13 March 2003 22:59
	Re: "recreational" 4WD's IS IT JUST ME ???!!!	Cyber-punk	Fri, 14 March 2003 02:48
	Re: "recreational" 4WD's IS IT JUST ME ???!!!	RAV-GT4	Sun, 23 March 2003 01:28
	Re: "recreational" 4WD's IS IT JUST ME ???!!!	manipulate	Fri, 14 March 2003 06:35
	Re: "recreational" 4WD's IS IT JUST ME ???!!!	kerr	Fri, 14 March 2003 06:58
	Re: "recreational" 4WD's IS IT JUST ME ???!!!	manipulate	Fri, 14 March 2003 07:02
	Re: "recreational" 4WD's IS IT JUST ME ???!!!	kerr	Fri, 14 March 2003 08:40
	Re: "recreational" 4WD's IS IT JUST ME ???!!!	bayka	Fri, 14 March 2003 10:22
	Re: "recreational" 4WD's IS IT JUST ME ???!!!	Apollo	Fri, 14 March 2003 12:53
	Re: "recreational" 4WD's IS IT JUST ME ???!!!	kerr	Fri, 14 March 2003 11:42
	Re: "recreational" 4WD's IS IT JUST ME ???!!!	manipulate	Sat, 15 March 2003 00:07
	Re: "recreational" 4WD's IS IT JUST ME ???!!!	littlepvan	Sat, 15 March 2003 00:51
	Re: "recreational" 4WD's IS IT JUST ME ???!!!	manipulate	Sat, 15 March 2003 00:54
	Re: "recreational" 4WD's IS IT JUST ME ???!!!	rahulgurjar	Sat, 15 March 2003 01:01
	Re: "recreational" 4WD's IS IT JUST ME ???!!!	suprav8	Sat, 15 March 2003 02:10
	Re: "recreational" 4WD's IS IT JUST ME ???!!!	bayka	Sun, 16 March 2003 04:43
	Re: "recreational" 4WD's IS IT JUST ME ???!!!	THE WITZL	Sun, 16 March 2003 06:21
	Re: "recreational" 4WD's IS IT JUST ME ???!!!	Singlecam	Sun, 16 March 2003 13:31
	Re: "recreational" 4WD's IS IT JUST ME ???!!!	suprav8	Sun, 16 March 2003 09:51
	Re: "recreational" 4WD's IS IT JUST ME ???!!!	87seca	Sun, 16 March 2003 11:37
	Re: "recreational" 4WD's IS IT JUST ME ???!!!	THE WITZL	Mon, 17 March 2003 03:28
	Re: "recreational" 4WD's IS IT JUST ME ???!!!	bayka	Mon, 17 March 2003 04:10
	Re: "recreational" 4WD's IS IT JUST ME ???!!!	Soarin	Mon, 17 March 2003 11:12
	Re: "recreational" 4WD's IS IT JUST ME ???!!!	AE92_Hatzi	Tue, 18 March 2003 13:15
	Re: "recreational" 4WD's IS IT JUST ME ???!!!	TD42T	Wed, 19 March 2003 03:29
	Re: "recreational" 4WD's IS IT JUST ME ???!!!	bayka	Wed, 19 March 2003 18:22
	Re: "recreational" 4WD's IS IT JUST ME ???!!!	TheStitt	Thu, 20 March 2003 07:09
	Re: "recreational" 4WD's IS IT JUST ME ???!!!	littlepvan	Thu, 20 March 2003 14:24
	Re: "recreational" 4WD's IS IT JUST ME ???!!!	mrrolla@bigpond.com	Fri, 21 March 2003 00:10
	Re: "recreational" 4WD's IS IT JUST ME ???!!!	ra23celicachick	Fri, 21 March 2003 00:38
	Re: "recreational" 4WD's IS IT JUST ME ???!!!	bayka	Fri, 21 March 2003 09:08
	Re: "recreational" 4WD's IS IT JUST ME ???!!!	TD42T	Fri, 21 March 2003 11:30
	Re: "recreational" 4WD's IS IT JUST ME ???!!!	bayka	Fri, 21 March 2003 16:34
	Re: "recreational" 4WD's IS IT JUST ME ???!!!	Cyber-punk	Sat, 22 March 2003 16:18
	Re: "recreational" 4WD's IS IT JUST ME ???!!!	RAV-GT4	Sat, 22 March 2003 14:11
	Re: "recreational" 4WD's IS IT JUST ME ???!!!	kerr	Sun, 23 March 2003 04:36
	Re: "recreational" 4WD's IS IT JUST ME ???!!!	rob_RA40	Wed, 26 March 2003 22:54
	Re: "recreational" 4WD's IS IT JUST ME ???!!!	bayka	Sun, 23 March 2003 06:41
	Re: "recreational" 4WD's IS IT JUST ME ???!!!	AE92_Hatzi	Sun, 23 March 2003 13:55
	Re: "recreational" 4WD's IS IT JUST ME ???!!!	toyrota	Mon, 24 March 2003 09:28
	Re: "recreational" 4WD's IS IT JUST ME ???!!!	kerr	Mon, 24 March 2003 10:38
	Re: "recreational" 4WD's IS IT JUST ME ???!!!	blerk	Mon, 24 March 2003 22:36
	Re: "recreational" 4WD's IS IT JUST ME ???!!!	bayka	Wed, 26 March 2003 16:55
	Re: "recreational" 4WD's IS IT JUST ME ???!!!	KOFFEE-BLACK	Thu, 27 March 2003 00:07
	Re: "recreational" 4WD's IS IT JUST ME ???!!!	THE WITZL	Thu, 27 March 2003 00:07

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