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Re: Good new turbo to replace CT26 on 3SGTE Tue, 25 March 2003 09:13 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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actually your right about two things i should perhaps have written group N assumed (god forbid) that the group A badge on the centre console meant exactly that( being very technical).
but toyota did develop st 205 for rally application as to when or how it was used in competetion(or if at all) i do not claim to know


Did you even read what I wrote?

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seems to me you just wanted to join the "ya couldnt POSSIBLY get that much power bandwagon"



If you could possibly make that much power I would happily pay you to work on my car, my problem is you make alot of claims that aren't possible or are incorrect and then abuse people for pointing it out. Show me some real proof and I wont bother you, actually I'd be quite impressed.

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using the factory 440 cc injectors and the standard manifold at 294 rwhp duty cycle was 90 % so we decide to extrude hone the intake manifold . the much smoother manifold allowed for less manifold wall quenching and faster air fuel flow . cylinder n.o 3 was some 30% more restrictive than all others at 320 H.p duty cycle was reduced to 87 %.


For a start ST205's have 540cc injectors stock. By getting more air in the cylinder you would need to add more fuel not less. How is it possible to the duty cycle to go down if you using more fuel?

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as far as the turbo mods go the only component that was SLIGHTLY modified was the ceramic wheel it was replaced with a steel item of SIMILAR spec


Only Japanese ST205's have ceramic compressor wheels, all of the cars exported to other countries (including Australia) have steel wheels.
http://gtfour.supras.org.nz/Turbo%20photos.htm

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perhaps you should check the link below

this clearly states quite a big differnce including the turbo .and the fact that the wrc IS A full second faster 0-100 IN STANDARD FORM

http://www.alltrac.net/specs/comparison.htm

should i mention the anti-lag(standard in wrc) or the injector sprays also standard


Well that page is obviously wrong since there has never been a 3S-GTE engine with a CT12A turbo on it. The power figures are correct though. All Jap spec ST205's had 255hp, UK spec had 242hp and Australian delivered cars came with 239hp(178kw)
http://gtfour.supras.org.nz/pics/aug94h.jpg. If you can show me a stock Australian delivered car that can do 0-100 in 5.45sec then I will admit defeat.

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it also has an id plate on the console with a build no ## of i think 77 in AUST


Mines #22 thanks. Would you like to start throwing VIN numbers around too? Doesn't prove you've actually been under the bonnet of one of these. From what you've said it certainly doesn't sound like it.

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again quoting the above link to alltrac an st205 WRC has 255h.p (st205 has 242) so thats about 173 h.p @ wheels .well we actaully got a figure of 181 so we are close to the claimed mark

we added 3 inch exhaust and cat mod ,cold air induction and 16 psi boost power figure rose to 225 h.p @ wheels as i said this has been varified

so the actual gain from turbo mods has only been 100 h.p @ wheels .But this is still a substantial gain considering the cost


Funny, in your earlier post you claimed the turbo was the only mod? Got a slip from an actual dyno?
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