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Re: Good new turbo to replace CT26 on 3SGTE

Tue, 25 March 2003 23:50

celicamad wrote on Sun, 23 March 2003 00:22

but toyota did develop st 205 for rally application as to when or how it was used in competetion(or if at all) i do not claim to know

but based on the fact that i dont actually know or care i accept you are probaly correct.

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The ST205 WRC turbo is exactly the same and a normal ST205 turbo.

i asssume you meant to say the same as a normal st205 turbo
(NOT PICKING ON YOUR TYPO MY TYPING SUCKS)

perhaps you should check the link below

this clearly states quite a big differnce including the turbo .and the fact that the wrc IS A full second faster 0-100 IN STANDARD FORM

http://www.alltrac.net/specs/comparison.htm

should i mention the anti-lag(standard in wrc) or the injector sprays also standard

Finally if there is any doubt what so ever this vehicle IS competing in 1/8th mile drag racing at THE toyota nationals this year .

and previously won the go-to-whoa by a substantial amount

i have a 4.5 sec 0-100 car and i am SCARED ... VERY scared of this vehicle

you are more than welcome to take it on

Celicamad,
You are right in some areas but wrong or mislead in others. Im not say the figures you are quoting are not achievable.

One quick quesyion i have for you though is, why in gods name would you spend $2500 on the stock turbo to get 500Hp (i'm assuming its running 20-25PSI to make the 500Hp) when for the same money you could get a bigger turbo that would work more efficiently ie:a lot less heat.

Now getting on to the parts ive quoted you on:

Toyota did devlope a car for rally this was the ST205WRC the turbine wheel in this application was steel and not ceramic.
Only the Jap Spec ST205 had ceramic.
The ST205 WRC was raced in rally but only for 3/4 of 1 season because they were caught cheating by removing the 35mm restrictor.
IMHO i think this is why the ST205 did not become a cult car like the WRX it didnt get the right exposure in its time, although the price point is another reason.

The specs you listed from alltrac.net are incorrect. They need to be swapped arround. The WRC is 242Hp and the Jap is 255Hp. The reason for the difference in HP is the more aggresively tuned ECU in the Jap model, its tuned for 100 Octane.

The antilag you mention is standard on the WRC but it does not work, its blocked and just looks pretty, It can be made to work but the stock ECU does not control it so youll need an EMS.
The injector sprayers you mentioned are little jets that spray the intercooler radiator with water to help cool it better. Ive tried using these and they made shit all of a difference unless your using the antilag it doesnt get hot enough for the jet spray to have any real benefit.

On your Finally point. I know my ST205 WRC is not making the same power as this one but i would love to go up against it at the Nationals, just to see how we go. Hmmmm 2x ST250 WRC running down the 1/8 mile together.

One more quick question. I the car your talking about David's or somebody else?

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