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bozwon Regular Location: nowra Registered: March 2003	Re: 3SGTE => sa63 Sat, 12 April 2003 01:12 TA22-3SGTE wrote on Wed, 31 July 2002 22:07 manipulate I can't realy put a cost on it as I done the complete conversion myself over time and with a few dollars hear and a few dollars there you never realy keep count so I would have no idea how much it all cost , sorry not much help with cost !!! Here is a bit of info I'v been putting together , not finnished yet but it may help . My conversion putting a 3SGTE into a TA22 Celica Motor 3SGTE out of ST165 Celica Gearbox W57 Bellhousing 2S from SA 63 Celica Sump 2S Oil Pickup 2S Flywheel 2S Clutch/presure plate 2S Starter 2S Alternator bracket 2S Engine Mounts 2S/2T Turbo ST165 Group A Exhaust Manifold Custom Inlet Menifold Custom Computer Haltech E6S Diff Hilux LSD Intercooler ST185 Celica ( Air to Air ) Coils Direct Fire from 4AGZE Cam Covers ST162 3SGE Radiator TA22 Fuel Pump VL Turbo Tail Shaft Custom Fan Thermo Exhaust 2 1/2" mandral 1/ Flywheel The 3SGTE flywheel sits closer to the block than the rear wheel drive 2S which means the input shaft does not sit into the sprigot bearing , the throughout bearing near hangs off the guide tube and the clutch plate does not slide onto the input shaft spline far enough , also the ringgear has a larger diameter than the 2S so the starter would need to be moved outwards about 5mm . The 2S flywheel has a 6 bolt pattern and the 3SGTE has a 8 bolt pattern , so what I did was redrilled the 2S flywheel to 8 bolt , to do this I tapped 4 of the holes with a 1/2 unf thread and pluged these with 1/2 unf allthread , 2 of the holes in the 2S flywheel already line up and another 2 can be clean drilled but the other 4 holes come half and half so pluging these made it posible to redrill . I have been told the 3SGTE clutch , presure plate & flywheel can be used by getting about 5mm machined off the face of the bellhousing ( this 5mm machining does not fix the starter problem as the starter needs to be moved outwards from the crank ). 2/ Intake Manifold The intake manifold sits to high and will not alow the bonnet to close , I cut the manifold about 90mm from the face and welded on a new plenum made out of 3" thick wall aluminium tube and fitted the throttle body at the front aiming down a little , I cut a hole between the radiator and headlight for the intercooler plumbing to connect to the throttle body . 3/ Exhaust Manifold The original manifold cannot be used as the starter is in the way of the turbo and the turbo would also be sitting back to front . I made a manifold out of 1 1/4" steam pipe and bends . I made the dump out of 15mm plate and 3" mandrel pipe , this 3" dump extends down to just under the car an than reduces to 2 1/2 mandrel for the rest of the exhaust system with a 3" straight through stainless muffler behind the diff . I faced the compressor outlet down towards the bottom and made the plumbing to exit through the bottom of the radiator support panel where I had cut a hole and connect to the ST185 intercooler . 4/ Engine Mounts The 2S mounts bolt onto the left side of the block but on the right side there is only two holes in the block so I bolted the mount onto these two holes and welded some brackets onto the rear side of the mount which extended towards the back of the block where there is another two holes . I drilled out the spot welds on the mounting plates on the crossmember so these mounting plates can be moved , I bolted the rubber mounts to the mounting plates then modified the 2S mounts as for the TA22 rubber mounts would bolt onto them , now with the mounts bolted up I positioned the motor to where it had to sit then rewelded the mounting plates back onto the crossmember , The correct position for the motor is about 85 to 90mm measured from the rear of the head to the firewall and with about 20mm clearance from the sump to the crossmember . 5/ Alternator I used the alternator bracket off the 2S which sits on the r/h side under the intake , the 2S alt mount will need a bit grinded off the bottom to bolt on . 6/ Cooling system I used the TA22 radiator but had to move the top spout to the left side then used a long hose to go to the rear of the motor where I had made a rear water outlet out of 1 1/4 " steam bends and pipe , this outlet consists of a 90 degree facing out to the left then 90 upwards and then another 90 to face the outlet forward at a hight to run the hose along the side of the cam cover , I brassed a couple of fittings into this outlet and fitted the temp gauge sender and the water temp sensor , I searched around and found a couple of hoses and a stainless joiner to make the bottom hose . Then fitted a thermo fan to the radiator . 7/ Ignition System The original distributor can be used by just removing the cap and rotor button then cutting the rotor button shaft off level with the pickup rotor and making a short cover to fit back on , this will give enough clearance to the firewall , the cover must be made of a non magnetic material such as aluminium or plastic as not to upset the magnetic pickups . the distributor can now be used and configured with an aftermarket ECU to run direct fire system , I used two direct fire coils from a 4AGZE and two toyota igniters , I bolted a length of 1' RHS between the shocky towers and mounted the coils off this . Trevor theres a lot if 2s parts there as well as most of a 3sgte therefore to simplify it id call it a hybrid ir to put it correctly its a 3sgte with a lot of 2s parts [Report message to a moderator]

	Subject	Poster	Date
	3SGTE => sa63	bozwon	Wed, 09 April 2003 02:36
	Re: 3SGTE => sa63	Cool1	Wed, 09 April 2003 02:46
	Re: 3SGTE => sa63	Nark	Wed, 09 April 2003 04:28
	Re: 3SGTE => sa63	Cool1	Wed, 09 April 2003 05:30
	Re: 3SGTE => sa63	bozwon	Wed, 09 April 2003 11:37
	Re: 3SGTE => sa63	celicamad85	Wed, 09 April 2003 10:39
	Re: 3SGTE => sa63	sideshow	Wed, 09 April 2003 10:48
	Re: 3SGTE => sa63	Cool1	Wed, 09 April 2003 11:52
	Re: 3SGTE => sa63	bozwon	Wed, 09 April 2003 12:27
	Re: 3SGTE => sa63	Cool1	Wed, 09 April 2003 12:31
	Re: 3SGTE => sa63	mrshin	Wed, 09 April 2003 12:35
	Re: 3SGTE => sa63	Cool1	Wed, 09 April 2003 12:57
	Re: 3SGTE => sa63	bozwon	Wed, 09 April 2003 13:22
	Re: 3SGTE => sa63	Cool1	Wed, 09 April 2003 13:30
	Re: 3SGTE => sa63	bozwon	Wed, 09 April 2003 13:40
	Re: 3SGTE => sa63	Cool1	Wed, 09 April 2003 13:41
	Re: 3SGTE => sa63	bozwon	Wed, 09 April 2003 13:41
	Re: 3SGTE => sa63	Cool1	Wed, 09 April 2003 13:42
	Re: 3SGTE => sa63	bozwon	Wed, 09 April 2003 13:43
	Re: 3SGTE => sa63	Cool1	Wed, 09 April 2003 13:46
	Re: 3SGTE => sa63	bozwon	Wed, 09 April 2003 13:50
	Re: 3SGTE => sa63	Cool1	Wed, 09 April 2003 13:52
	Re: 3SGTE => sa63	bozwon	Wed, 09 April 2003 13:56
	Re: 3SGTE => sa63	Cool1	Wed, 09 April 2003 13:58
	Re: 3SGTE => sa63	bozwon	Wed, 09 April 2003 14:09
	Re: 3SGTE => sa63	Cool1	Wed, 09 April 2003 14:11
	Re: 3SGTE => sa63	rob_RA40	Wed, 09 April 2003 22:21
	Re: 3SGTE => sa63	Nark	Wed, 09 April 2003 23:55
	Re: 3SGTE => sa63	Cool1	Thu, 10 April 2003 06:35
	Re: 3SGTE => sa63	celicamad85	Thu, 10 April 2003 10:24
	Re: 3SGTE => sa63	bozwon	Thu, 10 April 2003 00:56
	Re: 3SGTE => sa63	celicamad85	Thu, 10 April 2003 10:20
	Re: 3SGTE => sa63	bozwon	Thu, 10 April 2003 14:46
	Re: 3SGTE => sa63	Nark	Fri, 11 April 2003 04:57
	Re: 3SGTE => sa63	rob_RA40	Fri, 11 April 2003 06:16
	Re: 3SGTE => sa63	Norbie	Fri, 11 April 2003 03:07
	Re: 3SGTE => sa63	celicamad85	Fri, 11 April 2003 05:24
	Re: 3SGTE => sa63	celicamad85	Fri, 11 April 2003 05:29
	Re: 3SGTE => sa63	celicamad85	Fri, 11 April 2003 06:37
	Re: 3SGTE => sa63	rob_RA40	Fri, 11 April 2003 14:16
	Re: 3SGTE => sa63	bozwon	Sat, 12 April 2003 00:43
	Re: 3SGTE => sa63	Nark	Mon, 14 April 2003 01:33
	Re: 3SGTE => sa63	gianttomato	Mon, 14 April 2003 01:53
	Re: 3SGTE => sa63	Nark	Mon, 14 April 2003 02:07
	Re: 3SGTE => sa63	Cool1	Sat, 12 April 2003 00:50
	Re: 3SGTE => sa63	bozwon	Sat, 12 April 2003 01:12
	Re: 3SGTE => sa63	bozwon	Mon, 14 April 2003 11:32
	Re: 3SGTE => sa63	Cool1	Mon, 14 April 2003 11:34

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