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Club President I supported Toymods
Location: Sydney
Registered: May 2002
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Location: The Eastwood MASSIVE !
Registered: May 2003
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Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results
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Sun, 06 July 2003 14:29
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thetoyman75 wrote on Mon, 07 July 2003 00:08 |
(Name/Car/Engine/kw)
Under 1800cc Forced Induction Class
Stephen Combe AE92 4A-GZE 92.4
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Wasn't this the top supercharged of the day?
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Club President I supported Toymods
Location: Sydney
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Dyno Day 7 - Heads Up
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Sun, 06 July 2003 14:30
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PLEASE NOTE:
The Naturally Aspirated 4WD power figures are under investigation and cannot be explained at this time.
These Figures should not to be used as a guide to the engines' true capabilities.
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Location: Sydney Australia
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results
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Sun, 06 July 2003 16:26
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Yeah that 20V figure is about as good as pigs flying...
If the PRB boys could bolt a stocka 20V into a PRB and make that power, it would be all on!
Had a great day!!
Thanks to the people that did all the hard work and made it such a cool time for all.
Once again the Dyno day proved to be worthwhile, not just as a pull for the boys with big HP, but as a helpful tuning guide to people like me... i found out i'm a lucky boy to have my motor still in one piece as its been running 13-14 Air/Fuel the whole time ive had it! Lucky the 1J's a strong motor!
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Location: Canterbury, Sydney
Registered: March 2003
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Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results
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Sun, 06 July 2003 19:57
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[quote title=thunderbird1 wrote on Mon, 07 July 2003 02:26]Yeah Once again the Dyno day proved to be worthwhile, not just as a pull for the boys with big HP, but as a helpful tuning guide to people like me...
I hear ya, mine was running extremely lean at high revs, I'm off to get some 210cc injectors.
Next time Gadget next time!
A big thanks to the organisers, my first dyno day wont be my last!
ant
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Location: Wahroonga
Registered: June 2003
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Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results
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Sun, 06 July 2003 20:43
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looks like some records were broken.
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Location: Penrith
Registered: December 2002
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Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results
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Sun, 06 July 2003 23:16
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under investergation?? what sort of investergation? would you like to see my car or something? same dyno as the gt4's does that mean their figures are false as well? if there uis sour grapes let me know and i wont come to the next one. ive sent alot of money and time on that car and im really sorry that stock 4age cant match it.
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I supported Toymods
Location: Epping, Sydney
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results
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Sun, 06 July 2003 23:30
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I've been encouraged to get a boost gauge too... 185 rwkw isn't acheivable on a stock engine with stock boost
4x420v... that's not it at all, but just remember a 1jz-gte soarer only made 140.
And bigfella with his 90 rwkw was most suprised. he mentioned somehting about the way it was run resulting in closer to flywheel hp, and not centre locking or something? (I wasn't really listening, as I didn't really understand) ... maybe you could ask him rod?
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I supported Toymods
Location: Northern Beaches
Registered: May 2002
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Location: Terrigal
Registered: May 2002
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I supported Toymods
Location: Sydney
Registered: June 2002
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Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results
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Mon, 07 July 2003 00:38
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(Dont take this the wrong way i'm not having a go at you in any way.)
4x420v, there arent any sour grapes, but in all honesty i dont feel your figures are correct. Eg: Bigfella 90Kw @ 4 wheels when the car is stock minus a cold air intake. That Engine only make 96Kw at the flywheel. Do you think his drive train loss is only 6Kw? Mate its just logical, your engine is basically stock and you have the car tuned, so yes you are making bettey than stock figures but i dont think 120KW is accurate.
There is an easy way to prove to you that it's not accurate. I did 3 Runs on the Dyno, my 1st was 105Kw @ 8PSI (my low boost setting). Now your car made 120KW, how about we organise for you and me to have a run? with me on low boost and i'll even give you a 1sec head start. Now if i cant catch up and beat you over a 1/4 mile, then your figures will be correct but if i dant catch you then i'll swallow my pride and shut up.
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I supported Toymods
Location: Epping, Sydney
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results
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Mon, 07 July 2003 00:44
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when can we expect the dyno vids to be up?
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Location: Sydney
Registered: July 2002
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Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results
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Mon, 07 July 2003 02:23
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A properly tuned 20v *COULD* do that power figure. Its bloody possible. With an absolute crapload of ignition advance, and enough fuel to stop it pinging it could do it. Thats what getting it tuned PROPERLY is all about!
My advice is to get it done on a dyno that can cater for 4wd cars better.
Then Gary, you can get your car done on the same dyno, then compare notes.
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Location: Sydney
Registered: July 2002
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Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results
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Mon, 07 July 2003 02:25
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Was a great day! Great to see so many cars go through the dyno, and great to see the MKiv and ALSC guys there too.
.. How can I pickup my trophy? Do I have to come to a meeting? They're very far away from my place.
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Location: Penrith
Registered: December 2002
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Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results
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Mon, 07 July 2003 02:31
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there may be more to my engine than im letting on (all within the rules) gee120 have you ever heard of power to weight or torque? to you see how long it took for my engine to make 120kw(about 7500rpm) do you know anything about the gear or diff ratios in an ae95 gear box? my car was never built as a quarter mile car. if i was after a 4wd drag car i wouldnt have the corolla.(or a gt4 for that matter) ive spent about $18000 on that car so far,so a trophy is not my main aim.
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I supported Toymods
Location: Central Coast
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results
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Mon, 07 July 2003 02:38
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IMHO I thought that the figures were all over the shop... Was good to see so many people better their previous runs though...
I know a few people driving away with huge grins on their face
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Location: Sydney Australia
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results
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Mon, 07 July 2003 02:43
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dude with the 20V ... there is NO way a pretty stock 20v will make 120kw at the wheels without a 50 shot of nos... so unless u are not telling us something... the dyno must have freaked out.
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Location: Sydney
Registered: March 2003
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Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results
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Mon, 07 July 2003 02:50
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Hey guys, I had a good time, thanks for letting us come (MKIV Guys)But yeah, I belive the figures were outta wack. Can anyone tell us what figures they got before this dyno day? That AE86 is an Animal, I belive it has 207!! I mean he kept up with a friend R33 GTR BPU. I love the Manual JZZ30(??) V8 Soarer, and the MA70 V8 Supra!
My friend has a Soarer running nearly identical mods to the Blue soarer (HPi Cover) and on that Same Dyno a month ago, put out 298kw@ the wheels. And that Soarer "only" got 236 (?) so theres obvioualy something wrong.
Bretts JZA80, also wasnt up to its full potential, but I think something went wrong with the diff.
All in All tho, Great Day, Barby was good stuff too!!
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Location: Penrith
Registered: December 2002
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Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results
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Mon, 07 July 2003 02:54
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there is no nos.how do you know what ive done to it? PRETTY MUCH stock can be taken many ways.great to see you guys encourage people,then again its not a shitty old celica is it? maybe things would be different if my car was built before i was born!!
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Location: Parramatta
Registered: July 2002
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Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results
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Mon, 07 July 2003 02:57
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guys give 4x420v a break its not his fault, and if it is tuned properly and it dpoes get this figure on other dynos well isnt everyone going to look pretty stupid!
leave it up to the administrators to decide.....
i had a no so good day as most of u may know my plugs fouled up for those of u that dont know, that why i scored a high of 130kw (thats a bit or sarcasm) so it was boosting to a whole 8 psi yay, next one.....
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Location: The Eastwood MASSIVE !
Registered: May 2003
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Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results
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Mon, 07 July 2003 03:09
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It was quite funny when norb's supra tried to come off the dyno and destroy the spectators
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Location: Sydney
Registered: July 2002
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Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results
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Mon, 07 July 2003 03:12
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KOFFEE-BLACK wrote on Mon, 07 July 2003 12:50 | and the MA70 V8 Supra!
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Yay, I got a mention!
ps. My post above commenting about the 20v I wasn't going against the 20v producing that power, I was saying that if he tuned it properly (like he said he did) then it could do that power.
4x420v you are being a bit secretive though. If its not stock, say so and we'll embrase your power figure and encourage you to more. If it is stock, but tuned properly, they we'll aplaud and probably ask how it was done. If your going to be mysterious about it, do it to people who won't understand it anyway, don't be a tease.
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I supported Toymods
Location: Epping, Sydney
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results
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Mon, 07 July 2003 03:18
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that soarer with the same mods wasn't taken to it's full potential.
The guy had to stop the runs before the boost got really high, as it was leaning out in a bad way
last time I had my car dyno'd I got 182, this time 185, so I'd say it's pretty close.
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Location: c'town, NSW
Registered: May 2002
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Location: Sydney
Registered: December 2002
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Location: Sydney Australia
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results
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Mon, 07 July 2003 03:33
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why on earth would u need to run 9:1?? Lean that sucker out to 11 and it should make heaps more power.
20V... don't get upset. List your mods and i'm sure people will be able to say yes, or no if its possible. But, 99% of people know that a stock or even near stock 20V will make nowhere near that power.
Stock 20V's make about 70kws at the wheels... it would be fair to tell the others how to make the extra 50!!
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Location: Madrid - Spain
Registered: August 2002
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Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results
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Mon, 07 July 2003 03:35
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Hey I had the most powerful 1G on the day.
I bet your running scared now Phil
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Registered: March 2003
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Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results
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Mon, 07 July 2003 03:36
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Draza wrote on Mon, 07 July 2003 06:43 | looks like some records were broken.
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Yeah, and a diff
On the bright side Shane, I should be able to get most improved next time if I don't blow a diff and tyre again
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Toymods Vice President
Location: Sydney
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results
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Mon, 07 July 2003 03:39
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The blue Soarer only made 236.2 KW for a good reason, it was running 1 bar of boost and not enough fuel. The car was leaning out badly and not run as possible to protect the engine. It turns out the microfueler wasn't running at the correct setting and this is why it was lean.
As far as I'm concerned, and I was standing next to every single car to run, the only results that troubled me were the two naturally aspirated four wheel drives. Both of these cars made very close to their rated flywheel power at the wheels, the ramp rates for the dyno also had to be changed to allow them to rev out enough.
The big indicators for me as to why the results are reasonable is that a lot of people who have run on the same dyno previously got very similar results this time with the difference easily explained by the ~20 degree cooler temps. On top of this the take a look at the 4AGE's they all made the kind of power that 4AGE's have made at every toymods dyno day, the GTR with big exhaust 1bar of boost and stock turbo's also made 213.9 KW which is spot on for the amount of air flow those turbos will provide.
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Location: Sydney Australia
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results
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Mon, 07 July 2003 03:40
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Yeah that was a pity dude... a few boys noticed your tire was looking a bit flat outside... its a pity noone told you cause it could have saved you a diff.
THink u will find it went Tire Diff... not the other way round. A few guys with more knowledge than me said that when u get a flat on the dyno and it loads up that wheel heaps harder and especially with your power, it will kil that diff fast!!
Hard luck!! I take it your power figure was at 4800rpm as people said.. that is AWESOME!
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Location: Sydney
Registered: March 2003
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Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results
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Mon, 07 July 2003 03:46
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Krupt wrote on Mon, 07 July 2003 13:36 |
Draza wrote on Mon, 07 July 2003 06:43 | looks like some records were broken.
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Yeah, and a diff
On the bright side Shane, I should be able to get most improved next time if I don't blow a diff and tyre again
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Damn! You broke the diff?? What happened?? Still a good effort! I was standing in front, and I though i was going to get run over!
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Toymods Vice President
Location: Sydney
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results
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Mon, 07 July 2003 03:47
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Quote 4x420v
"under investergation?? what sort of investergation? would you like to see my car or something? same dyno as the gt4's does that mean their figures are false as well? if there uis sour grapes let me know and i wont come to the next one."
OK this sin't what we're saying at all. What Rod meant (to my understanding) by under investigation is that both we and the dyno operator were rather perplexed by the result of the 2 N/A 4WD cars results and want to find out more about how it happens. The theories being bandied around ranged from the dyno reading incorrectly due to the design of the 4WD system, the 4WD system being super efficient through to the ramp rate being changed causing an annomaly in the readings.
We're not saying your car is bad or that we don't want you at dyno days simply that we want to know how the results happened.
One thing I would love to see so that we can put this to bed is to get both your AE-95 and your girl friends one onto that dyno on the same day and see what numbers they run. In this case you'll have a known quantity with a standard 4A?? running through the same drive line to compare to your car and see what the results are like.
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Location: Sydney
Registered: March 2003
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Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results
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Mon, 07 July 2003 03:49
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thunderbird1 wrote on Mon, 07 July 2003 13:40 | Yeah that was a pity dude... a few boys noticed your tire was looking a bit flat outside... its a pity noone told you cause it could have saved you a diff.
THink u will find it went Tire Diff... not the other way round. A few guys with more knowledge than me said that when u get a flat on the dyno and it loads up that wheel heaps harder and especially with your power, it will kil that diff fast!!
Hard luck!! I take it your power figure was at 4800rpm as people said.. that is AWESOME!
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I told him! Didnt I Brett!!
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Location: Colac, Victoria
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results
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Mon, 07 July 2003 04:21
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Id just like to thank all the crew in sydney - especially gary , danny , and rod , who put up with me bugging them about stuff while they were madly catering to the ravenous crowd -
All the GT4 owners - THANKS BIG TIME for making me feel welcom - you lot made the bloody long drive worth it - and i appreciate very snipped of advice and comments on my car i recieved
As for my result - i was absolutely STOKED to quote myself for 113 KW at the wheels - for a GT4 - thats pretty much spot on for a "stocker" with a boost controller from what ive heard ( give or take 5kw either side
seeing outr cars ( the GT4's ) put down 50:50 split power - maybe mr 4x420valves some how confused the dyno in its output - seeing they put power down to front wheel bias .. The figure made by this car was only a smidgen above what mine put down - so i guess theres been some Serious NA tweaking going on there ( and good work if it has paid off to produce those results - WOW ! ) to beat a 2 litre turbocharged Gt4 on the rollers
( ps: what were those flames coming out from under the motor on the corolla when it was on the dyno - that was a bit scary! )
Im not sure how a rav goes either - But all i can say is for the GT4's - with any mods taken into consideration for EVERYONE of us - our figures seem right ..
Anyway -I hope this gets sorted soon - so far i seem ranked 4th i guess on the 4wd rankings behind the two 205's and the NA. Ill be back in january - with the new exhaust on - and maybe - JUST maybe a high flowed turbo if im lucky !
Good work guys and congrats to all the class winners !
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Location: Sydney
Registered: December 2002
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Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results
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Mon, 07 July 2003 04:33
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why on earth would u need to run 9:1?? Lean that sucker out to 11 and it should make heaps more power.
You think he wants to run the car like that hehe it hasnt even been touched since it came from Japan....
the car is for sale and to be honest and is being sold as is. There is a brand new Power FC that will go with it for the right price and if the new owner wishes, Luke would probably even get it tuned for them.
Once the car is sorted it should be capable of about 320kw all day every day at 1 bar and with more boost and a good tune possibly even just short of 350kw. What needs to be considered is the fact that at 1 bar the turbo isnt really working, 1.8 bar and your talking closer to the efficiency of a T78.
I am possible racing the car at this weeks street meet as Luke cant get time off work, so we will see what its capable of. With that mixture i wont really hurt the motor so all should be good. I anticipate a low to mid 12 but thats just guessing. Time will tell.
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Location: Carlingford, Sydney
Registered: May 2002
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Location: Sydney Australia
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results
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Mon, 07 July 2003 04:47
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My motor probably should have made more like 160kw's on that boost i was running.. but because of the lean mixture it ran more hp! But its a trade off, cause with more fuel i could have run 16psi and made 200 or so like the other 1j's running that boost.
Personally i would like to be safe... so its finding fuel time for me!
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I supported Toymods
Location: Sydney
Registered: June 2002
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Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results
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Mon, 07 July 2003 04:49
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4x420v wrote on Mon, 07 July 2003 12:54 | there is no nos.how do you know what ive done to it? PRETTY MUCH stock can be taken many ways.great to see you guys encourage people,then again its not a shitty old celica is it? maybe things would be different if my car was built before i was born!!
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Dude,
My car wasnt built as a drag car for 1, a GT4 is way too heavy for a drag car.
Mate i'm not trying to hang shit on your car or trying to discourage you, nor am i saying its not possible on an NA 4wd car. I'm basing my statements on what you have mentioned about your car.
When someone says its pretty much stock, that to me means no actual internal engine work, basically and exhaust system and air filter upgrade and maybe some tuning.
If you believe your figures to be correct then obviously there is a lot your not telling us about.
Bottom line is, all i'm doing is voicing my opinion and not taking a stab at you or your car. Even Dave (dyno operator) agrees that your figures wern't correct.
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Location: Sydney
Registered: March 2003
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Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results
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Mon, 07 July 2003 05:05
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ido09s wrote on Mon, 07 July 2003 14:33 | why on earth would u need to run 9:1?? Lean that sucker out to 11 and it should make heaps more power.
You think he wants to run the car like that hehe it hasnt even been touched since it came from Japan....
the car is for sale and to be honest and is being sold as is. There is a brand new Power FC that will go with it for the right price and if the new owner wishes, Luke would probably even get it tuned for them.
Once the car is sorted it should be capable of about 320kw all day every day at 1 bar and with more boost and a good tune possibly even just short of 350kw. What needs to be considered is the fact that at 1 bar the turbo isnt really working, 1.8 bar and your talking closer to the efficiency of a T78.
I am possible racing the car at this weeks street meet as Luke cant get time off work, so we will see what its capable of. With that mixture i wont really hurt the motor so all should be good. I anticipate a low to mid 12 but thats just guessing. Time will tell.
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Brad, Im guessing Lukes car would do an 11, Ive been in a 11 second 180sx, in Lukes Soarer felt faster!
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Location: Sydney, Australia
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results
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Mon, 07 July 2003 05:30
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Hey 4x420v, any chance of seeing a scan of your dyno run output?
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Location: Sydney Australia
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results
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Mon, 07 July 2003 06:26
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How did mr Dyno operator feel when my car was dyno'd... 74th of the day????? Here we go....
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Registered: May 2002
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Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results
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Mon, 07 July 2003 06:45
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Hi all, I thought the dyno day was meant to be for a bit of fun, it is just one number after all and only tells a small story about how a car performs.
As far as accuracy goes, mine ran about what I expected 168.9kw, it ran in the 160's (rwkw) on a dyno in Canberra on the Friday, so it seemed ok to me.
My brother has footage of 4x4 20V having a few flames pop out from under the engine after backing off on each run. Something you might want to check, a shame if it burnt to the ground.
It all seemed like a good day to me, I will be at the next Dyno day.
Shane.
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Location: Sydney Australia
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results
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Mon, 07 July 2003 06:53
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Afterburners
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Location: Kenthurst, Sydney
Registered: February 2003
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Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results
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Mon, 07 July 2003 07:08
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I was pretty happy with 210kw and top M series
good to meet some new faces and check out some nice cars
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I supported Toymods
Location: Epping, Sydney
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results
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Mon, 07 July 2003 07:38
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why is he wearing a mask luke?
does your car really smell that bad?
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Location: Kenthurst, Sydney
Registered: February 2003
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Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results
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Mon, 07 July 2003 07:46
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BTW I dynoed mine 5 days earlier at Unigroup Engineering and made 203kw so i think the reading was fairly accurate for my car at least. But yea I would love to see any N/A 1600 make 120kw ATW and still idle below 1500rpm
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Location: Epping, Sydney
Registered: April 2003
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Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results
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Mon, 07 July 2003 07:47
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Well big triple figure boys, good job all!
I was pretty happy with 79.6 out of the old Sleeka (3sge) Muuuuuch more than I expected. That makes it quite a powerful stockish ST162. But reading this post hasn't got me too confident 'bout the results. But I imagine a any Dyno day there are issues like this. It was fun for sure.
Ok, so I stuck some pictures up for y'all. Just click on the piccies for the big versions.
-cheers -
http://homepage.mac.com/andrewlincolne/PhotoAlbum5 .html
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Toymods Social Secretary
Location: Sydney
Registered: July 2002
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Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results
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Mon, 07 July 2003 07:53
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YAY! Top carbied!
Top R series!
Top day!
I loved it. Although i still need sleep, thanks for making me stay up Norbie
See you all next time.
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Registered: March 2003
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Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results
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Mon, 07 July 2003 08:46
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im gonna try and get there late more often...
Running third last was great for the fact that it was a lot cooler
i was impressed with my lil cressie.. from 140 @ dyno day 6 to 167.9 from only airfilter and exhaust mods was way beyond my expectations.. i was looking for something around the 150's range
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I supported Toymods
Location: Epping, Sydney
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results
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Mon, 07 July 2003 08:50
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also remember the 20 degree temp difference
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Location: neverland
Registered: September 2002
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Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results
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Mon, 07 July 2003 10:48
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pity i didn't run my beastie on the dyno then you all would be stunned by then mighty 4ac lack of power.
but happy i didn't as i jacked my car up at work to find the three bolts in my front right lower ball joint were verrry much undone with on nut missing. all fixed now.
go the rollas
the plow has spoken
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Registered: May 2003
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Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results
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Mon, 07 July 2003 11:09
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Was a good day. some quick toyota's!!
Does anyone know what was in that Metalic Blue AE86??
How many Kw's did it have?
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Club Member
Location: Sydney, NSW
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results
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Mon, 07 July 2003 11:28
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The AE86 had a 4AGTE in it... It got 207.3kW at the rears...
It didn't sound too healthy though...
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Location: Sydney
Registered: July 2003
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Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results
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Mon, 07 July 2003 12:26
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yeah thats my beast, had me confused why it broke up on the dyno, ran sweet half way home then got worse, turned out one the of the plug leads wasnt on properly. Im happy it still pulled 203kw
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Location: Sydney
Registered: July 2003
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Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results
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Mon, 07 July 2003 12:29
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woops i meant 207.3kw
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Club President I supported Toymods
Location: Sydney
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results
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Mon, 07 July 2003 13:06
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4x420v,
Jay, Please don't let the comments in this thread regarding your results take anything away from your car. Its a wild piece of work and you should be proud of what you have acheived. I don't think anyone means anything negative towards your car. Please understand that they are just evaluating your cars output with what it is expected to make.
ALL,
Just to clarify the results. We chose Preimer Auto for our Dyno days for a number of reasons, the major one is the great support they give the club and the efforts they go to for us to make the day possible buy keeping the price to an affordable level. For me personally the second most important thing is that there Dyno does provide accurate figures. Its because of this last point that we are investigation TWO of the results on the day.
The two Naturally Aspirated 4WD cars have both the Toymods Board and Dave (the Dyno Operator) perplexed as to why these figures were acheived.
ALL OTHER RESULTS ARE CONSIDERED ACCUATE and a realistic representaion of the vehicles real output at the wheels. There is alot of theories as to what may have possibly contributed the the N/A 4WD results and we are doing everything we can to get a definate answer for everyone.
I won't go any further into the details till we have something more solid to report. Please bear with us these things take ALOT of explaining.
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Toymods member I supported Toymods
Location: Rydalmere, NSW
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results
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Mon, 07 July 2003 13:51
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draven wrote on Mon, 07 July 2003 09:30 |
.. 4x420v... that's not it at all, but just remember a 1jz-gte soarer only made 140.
And bigfella with his 90 rwkw was most suprised. he mentioned somehting about the way it was run resulting in closer to flywheel hp, and not centre locking or something? (I wasn't really listening, as I didn't really understand) ... maybe you could ask him rod?
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I'll save Rod the trouble and divert your attention this way so you can better-understand. A RAV4's drivetrain uses 3 differentials; front, centre (viscous centre diff, or VCD) and a rear. The bias on the drive system is about 60:40, but if the drive system is locked (via the centre diff lock or CDL), the wheels will turn at 50:50 bias. Unfortunately this is not recommended for normal driving conditions, or anything really that goes above getting yourself out of a mud patch or off some ice or snow. Personally this function is completely wasted on me because I have no use for it, nor will I take my ride into any of these conditions.
Just a minor correction in the quote too - it's not rwkw. It's all-wheel. The dyno operator told me that the dyno they use is like using two dyno's in one. Therefore I don't know if the front is taking it's figure and adding it to the rear's, thus giving a higher output than expected (which realistically is much closer to 50 all-wheel kw). I'd like to know exactly how it works for both the 20v 4wd wagon (120kw) and mine (90.8kw). I didn't expect a lot from mine, but it pulled bloody hard to get it's results. It shocked the shit out of me when I saw the dyno graph climb as high as it did. It sounded awesome, to hear the cold air intake get some fresh air (which right now it's not really, but working on it), and really rev up there without worrying about it breaking down on the dyno. Not being on one of these things before, I had no idea if my ride would be able to handle it. Now I know that she can do it, and efficiently too.
But I really want to find out how the dyno gets it's figures off my beastie... the figures not only shocked me, but also had me quite excited until the dyno operator told me the diff multiplication comes into it as well.
Here's my graph..
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Location: Sydney Australia
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results
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Mon, 07 July 2003 14:32
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Hey Joel... did that burnout come out on film... if not i wasted $200 worth of tread! haha.
$300 each tires r now rooted!
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results
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Mon, 07 July 2003 23:41
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DiZ_ wrote on Mon, 07 July 2003 13:09 | It was quite funny when norb's supra tried to come off the dyno and destroy the spectators
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I told the dyno guy he'd have to strap the car down, but would he listen? Noooo!
Thanks to the organisers of the day, I had a great time and I'm pretty stoked with my result. 228kw ain't bad for a stocker!
I'll see you all next year, hopefully with a few more goodies under the bonnet. Heheh...
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Location: Sydney
Registered: July 2002
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Re: Dyno Day 7 - Results
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Mon, 07 July 2003 23:59
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Norbie wrote on Tue, 08 July 2003 09:41 | I'll see you all next year, hopefully with a few more goodies under the bonnet. Heheh...
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You gonna put 2 2JZ's under there?? Or did you mean a few guys from that british TV show in the 80s. Goodie goodie yum yum.
Driving in front of you at night I knew when you hit it because your lights would rise up to rearview mirror height. Very cool.
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