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Camden, NSW
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June 2002
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MA70 Stereo Query
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Thu, 15 April 2004 10:00
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I want to put a cheap system in my supra for the time being untill i get some money together for a decent one. The question i have is this,
I will be running a 12" sub and i dont want to only be able to hear the sub. WIll replacing the stock speakers with some new 4" speakers allow me to hear the music and the bass? Can i just run them off the deck (4x50) or should i run the fronts off the amp and rears of the deck?
The other option is should i get some door pods and some 6" for the front so that the music can be heard?
Now i know i can turn the gains down on the sub etc, but i was hoping that the 4"s will be sufficient?
What do you guys think and what have you done to your systems?
Thanks
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Sydney
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May 2002
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Thu, 15 April 2004 11:00
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On a budget, the 4x50w into the small speakers would be ok if yo pulled back on the bass, volume,fader and used the sub for the bottom end balance. This would sound reasonably good.
Next up, I'd replace the 4inch speakers with 6inch coaxials so then you could wind up the wick.
I'd run the system with the orig speakers until yo either get fed up with the low volume or alternatively blow them out, then upgrade to 6inch.
Pedro
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Melbourne
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May 2002
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Re: MA70 Stereo Query
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Thu, 15 April 2004 13:15
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You can fit 6x9's in the back if you throw out the stock black plastic box's and make a fiberglass replacement
Allan
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Camden, NSW
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June 2002
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Re: MA70 Stereo Query
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Fri, 16 April 2004 00:07
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Thanks Allan i didnt know that...
Might have to give it a go
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Location:
Adelaide
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September 2003
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Re: MA70 Stereo Query
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Fri, 16 April 2004 00:22
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I would suggest turning the sub down a little. 4 inch speakers are designed to play above 130Hz generally and a sub will happily play everything below that. So they should be able to work in conjunction with each other. If the sub is overpowering then you have either too much bass, or too much resonance. I am not sure the deck but some things to try would be fade the sub a little to tone it down, turn the bass down, high pass the 4 inchers and low pass the sub, sound deaden you car.
When you decide to upgrade I would recommend 6 - 6 1/2 inch splits for the front running off a nice amp. You will get a much better off axis response with splits as opposed to coax speakers.
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Location:
Northwestern Sydney
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August 2002
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Re: MA70 Stereo Query
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Fri, 16 April 2004 00:43
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would suggest turning the sub down a little. 4 inch speakers are designed to play above 130Hz generally and a sub will happily play everything below that. So they should be able to work in conjunction with each other. If the sub is overpowering then you have either too much bass, or too much resonance. I am not sure the deck but some things to try would be fade the sub a little to tone it down, turn the bass down, high pass the 4 inchers and low pass the sub, sound deaden you car.
When you decide to upgrade I would recommend 6 - 6 1/2 inch splits for the front running off a nice amp. You will get a much better off axis response with splits as opposed to coax speakers.
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I agree with this a 4inch will put out enough sound just not the range of a 6 inch sound. What amp are you using? 4 channel? if it is a 4 channel I'd do as mentioned above... run the sub and the fronts (4inch) off the amp with a high pass on the fronts, kick back the gains a little on the sub channels, and run the rears off the head unit for rear fill. should give nice balance till you can upgrade the fronts.
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Camden, NSW
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June 2002
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Re: MA70 Stereo Query
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Fri, 16 April 2004 02:13
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Yeah its a 4 channel. I had some 6.5" splits in the sprinter wid the sub n it was great, but i just dont want to be cutting bits of my door skins out lol. I will be putting them in eventually but will get custom pods made up for the splits. whats the diff between co-ax n splits?
What about if i got a shitty pair of 6x9's for rear fill and turn the bass down n run rears of the deck n fronts off amp. Will this give a better mid range than just having the 4"s or waste of time cos of the sub for the bass? will 6" fit in the rear with some modification?
Havnt really had a look at the stock positions lol, just erating ideas as will be doing all the planing and making of the false floor this weekend
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Location:
Northwestern Sydney
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August 2002
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Re: MA70 Stereo Query
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Fri, 16 April 2004 04:39
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rear fill is simply that...fill. you have base which covers the frequency range between roughly 20Hz - ~180Hz
your fronts will cover the upper from ~150Hz - 15kHz
the rears in most compeditive cars are often just run of the mill 6 inch co-axials to fill the void of the car. The front is where it is all at.
Co-axials are where the woofer and the tweeter are located on the same axis (ie CO-axial) Splits are where the woofer and tweeter are separate and can be mounted in separate locations.
In a perfect setup Co-axial speakers are a better option if you can achive the right location setup, however in a car this is very difficult without alot of custom work or High end headunits and digital converters. And a Supra isn't the best to start with (in terms of standard speaker locations)
Keep the standard speakers for the rear. concentrate your dough on the front speakers (and installation if deamed required)
run the front and sub off the amp and rear off the deck.
You'll be happier with the results.
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