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Location: Rocky Mountains, Canada
Registered: May 2002
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Location: Rocky Mountains, Canada
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Project: MWP's RA28 Celica
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Thu, 27 January 2005 12:12
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How it looked when i recieved it from CLG:
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Location: Rocky Mountains, Canada
Registered: May 2002
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I supported Toymods
Location: Perth, Western Australia
Registered: December 2002
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Re: Project: MWP's RA28 Celica
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Thu, 27 January 2005 13:28
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And you have to keep the "GROOVER" Stickers on the quarter windows too!
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Location: Rocky Mountains, Canada
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Project: MWP's RA28 Celica
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Thu, 27 January 2005 13:30
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CLG wrote on Thu, 27 January 2005 23:58 | And you have to keep the "GROOVER" Stickers on the quarter windows too!
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Sorry, went a while ago
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I supported Toymods
Location: Perth, Western Australia
Registered: December 2002
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Re: Project: MWP's RA28 Celica
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Thu, 27 January 2005 14:50
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, ah well, it's not my car anymore so I can't complain - I still have the memory of chatting up the good looking bar wench to get them!
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Location: Madrid - Spain
Registered: August 2002
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Re: Project: MWP's RA28 Celica
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Thu, 27 January 2005 21:03
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Keep up the good work.
I have been told that Clints RA28 was in really good condition, so you have a great starting point with this project.
Hope the 1U goes in, I thought about putting one in mine when the 1G died, but decided that it was too easy to chuck another one in and I needed the car back on the road.
As far as the conversion goes though, I can't really see why it would be that much harder than a 1G. The R&P conversion has been detailed before by Joel (TurboRA28), the diff is an easy thing to upgrade and teh rest will be the same.
Best of luck to you, keep us informed of the progress.
Anthony
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Location: Terrigal
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Project: MWP's RA28 Celica
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Thu, 27 January 2005 22:36
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Looking good.. Will be great to see a 1U powered RA28!
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Location: Northwestern Sydney
Registered: August 2002
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Re: Project: MWP's RA28 Celica
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Fri, 28 January 2005 02:37
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And if you don't need those GT bits......
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Location: Rocky Mountains, Canada
Registered: May 2002
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Location: Tamworth
Registered: August 2004
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Re: Project: MWP's RA28 Celica
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Mon, 07 February 2005 10:03
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wow, great looking car, good luck with the 1u i cant wait to c how it goes.
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Location: Rocky Mountains, Canada
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Project: MWP's RA28 Celica
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Tue, 08 February 2005 14:31
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The calipers are now rebuilt and painted
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: October 2004
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Re: Project: MWP's RA28 Celica
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Tue, 15 February 2005 00:00
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holy crap man... this is SOOO what i wanna do with my ra28, i remember long before i had the car, and even knew if it could be done, i wanted a lexus V8 in it keep up the good work, looks like you got yourself a pearler there. can't wait to see it in action
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Location: Adelaide
Registered: September 2003
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Re: Project: MWP's RA28 Celica
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Tue, 15 February 2005 01:29
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Great to see that you sourced the hubs. Where did you end up getting them from ? They are indeed getting harder to find !!
Would like to keep seeing the progress with this, as I reckon it will be a great car
Keep up the momentum !!!!
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Location: Rocky Mountains, Canada
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Project: MWP's RA28 Celica
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Wed, 09 March 2005 07:17
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bbaacchhyy wrote on Tue, 15 February 2005 11:59 | Great to see that you sourced the hubs. Where did you end up getting them from ? They are indeed getting harder to find !!
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I got them from a wrecker near TTP.
I rang the wreckers Hotline which found them for me
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Keep up the momentum !!!!
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Im trying!
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Location: Rocky Mountains, Canada
Registered: May 2002
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Location: Adelaide
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Project: MWP's RA28 Celica
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Wed, 09 March 2005 08:47
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just a thought, because I have been looking into adjustable tops too
the RA28 ones form Noltec were quoted to me at $450...
but after some playing round the other day I found out that S13 ones will fit almost perfectly, just have to drill out 2 of the mounting holes, and they bolt right onto the end of the strut too !
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Location: Rocky Mountains, Canada
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Project: MWP's RA28 Celica
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Wed, 09 March 2005 10:42
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Yeh ive heard about the S13 tops.
Are the cheaper S13 items up to the quality of the Noltec units though?
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Location: Rocky Mountains, Canada
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Project: MWP's RA28 Celica
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Mon, 14 March 2005 08:21
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A quick update...
And got my new Koni Yellow inserts and Koni "racing" bumpstops:
Slowly getting things done.
Working out what needs to be done and how to do it is taking most of the time.
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Location: Rocky Mountains, Canada
Registered: May 2002
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Location: Adelaide
Registered: September 2003
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Re: Project: MWP's RA28 Celica
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Mon, 14 March 2005 20:36
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MWP,
What inserts did you use ? I used RAV4 ones in my car.
Hickoz_bro,
The Koni adjustable shocks refer to the adjustable DAMPING rate, not height.
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Location: Rocky Mountains, Canada
Registered: May 2002
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Location: Terrigal
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Project: MWP's RA28 Celica
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Tue, 15 March 2005 02:44
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Are you going to be lowering it much? As thought you might have wanted a shorter stroke shock?
bbaacchhyy do you have any length figures on the rav4 inserts?
Cheers
Joel
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Location: Adelaide
Registered: September 2003
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Re: Project: MWP's RA28 Celica
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Tue, 15 March 2005 02:50
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TurboRA28 wrote on Tue, 15 March 2005 13:14 |
bbaacchhyy do you have any length figures on the rav4 inserts?
Cheers
Joel
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Not off the top of my head, but just needed a couple of washers in the bottom of a RA60 strut tube.
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I supported Toymods
Location: Plumpton/sydney
Registered: November 2003
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Re: Project: MWP's RA28 Celica
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Thu, 17 March 2005 06:04
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Can you send me some more photos of those sexy brakes please
benjaminfuller@optusnet.com.au
Ben
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Location: Rocky Mountains, Canada
Registered: May 2002
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Toymods Vice President
Location: Sydney
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Project: MWP's RA28 Celica
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Fri, 18 March 2005 00:26
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I've cleaned this thread up to remove the rubbish about "height adjustable shock absorbers".
Hopefully that'll allow it to stay more on topic for you MWP.
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Location: Rocky Mountains, Canada
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Project: MWP's RA28 Celica
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Fri, 18 March 2005 03:14
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Joshstix wrote on Fri, 18 March 2005 10:56 | I've cleaned this thread up to remove the rubbish about "height adjustable shock absorbers".
Hopefully that'll allow it to stay more on topic for you MWP.
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Thanks!
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Location: Rocky Mountains, Canada
Registered: May 2002
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Location: Adelaide
Registered: May 2003
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Re: Project: MWP's 1UZ RA28 Celica (lots of photos!)
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Mon, 11 April 2005 08:22
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Looking good. Still waiting for the contents of those other photos you showed me to be sitting on the garage floor
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Location: Tamworth
Registered: August 2004
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Re: Project: MWP's 1UZ RA28 Celica (lots of photos!)
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Mon, 11 April 2005 09:42
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woh, make sure u write all this down so u can tell others how u did it:)
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Location: Terrigal
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Project: MWP's 1UZ RA28 Celica (lots of photos!)
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Mon, 11 April 2005 11:26
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Looking good very familiar design
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Location: Rocky Mountains, Canada
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Project: MWP's 1UZ RA28 Celica (lots of photos!)
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Mon, 11 April 2005 14:49
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TurboRA28 wrote on Mon, 11 April 2005 20:56 | Looking good very familiar design
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Hehe
Yup, quite close to what you did.
Only difference is im using the AE82 rack.
I measured the bumpsteer and ackerman angles of the stock setup.
Ill do the same measurements with the rack in.
Will be interesting to see the difference, hopefully there isnt much as engineering could then become difficult
The engineer wants to see all measurements and workings for angles on paper
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I supported Toymods
Location: Perth, Western Australia
Registered: December 2002
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Re: Project: MWP's 1UZ RA28 Celica (lots of photos!)
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Mon, 11 April 2005 15:04
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M.W.P. wrote on Mon, 11 April 2005 22:49 | The engineer wants to see all measurements and workings for angles on paper
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Yep, thats the best place to make a mistake - costs a dumpload less too. Good to see it's all coming together for you Mark - if I had kept the car, it would have received exactly what you are doing to it now anyway!
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Location: Rocky Mountains, Canada
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Project: MWP's 1UZ RA28 Celica (lots of photos!)
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Mon, 11 April 2005 17:33
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CLG wrote on Tue, 12 April 2005 00:34 |
Yep, thats the best place to make a mistake - costs a dumpload less too.
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Yeh.
I wouild hate to see how much he would charge to do it
Its rather handy having a draftsman & ex boilermaker for a father
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Good to see it's all coming together for you Mark - if I had kept the car, it would have received exactly what you are doing to it now anyway!
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How is your 1UZ project coming along?
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Location: Terrigal
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Project: MWP's 1UZ RA28 Celica (lots of photos!)
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Tue, 12 April 2005 01:56
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I'm debating trying the AE82 rack in my next R&P conversion. Means I wouldn't have to change the positioning of the control arm pivots.
How are you going with the ackerman angles? I found I couldn't get the rack forward enough to get it correct and had to be compromised.
Only way seemed to be totally hack into the xmember so the rack could be moved another 20mm forward or so.
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Location: Adelaide
Registered: May 2003
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Re: Project: MWP's 1UZ RA28 Celica (lots of photos!)
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Tue, 12 April 2005 02:10
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You mean like the AE86 rack which sits almost flush with the crossmember?
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Location: Terrigal
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Project: MWP's 1UZ RA28 Celica (lots of photos!)
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Tue, 12 April 2005 03:32
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Takai - yeah thats right. If you were looking from the top the inner tie rod ends on the rack are sitting infront of the outer tie rod ends.
But with the TA23 xmember custom rack job the best you can get is to have the steering arms straight. Could get longer steering knuckles but then you loose steering angle.
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Location: melbourne
Registered: February 2005
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Re: Project: MWP's 1UZ RA28 Celica (lots of photos!)
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Tue, 12 April 2005 04:02
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lookin good man...
r u leaving it white????
when the motor going in?
i check out ur webpage last night find some good pictures on it.
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Location: Rocky Mountains, Canada
Registered: May 2002
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Location: Rocky Mountains, Canada
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Project: MWP's 1UZ RA28 Celica (lots of photos!)
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Tue, 12 April 2005 12:51
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h3ff44 wrote on Tue, 12 April 2005 13:32 | lookin good man...
r u leaving it white????
when the motor going in?
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Staying white.
No idea on the engine... when the steering and suspension is all sorted.
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i check out ur webpage last night find some good pictures on it.
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Good thing i get free hosting, about 2GB of photos on there
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Location: Terrigal
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Project: MWP's 1UZ RA28 Celica (lots of photos!)
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Tue, 12 April 2005 21:27
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I find with the rack positioned back a bit and even though the ackerman angles are not perfect it feels fine on the road. Only really noticable downside is a poor turning circle.. hmmm 3 point turns...
But yeah on my next one i've done the same as you and cut the lip off the xmember, that'll give another 10mm closer like you say.
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Location: Rocky Mountains, Canada
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Project: MWP's 1UZ RA28 Celica (lots of photos!)
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Thu, 14 April 2005 11:56
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Did you end up with more or less ackerman Joel?
It looks like i might have more than stock.
Bumpsteer looks ok.
Ive got a tiny bit less travel for turning circle.
How many turns lock to lock for the AE86 rack?
AE82 is ~3.75 turns.
Almost ready to go in the car, just waiting on some new xmember bolts.
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Location: Adelaide
Registered: May 2003
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Re: Project: MWP's 1UZ RA28 Celica (lots of photos!)
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Thu, 14 April 2005 15:59
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Same, 3.75 tltl. But you can get quick steer racks for the 86 which i dont think you can get for the 82.
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Location: Terrigal
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Project: MWP's 1UZ RA28 Celica (lots of photos!)
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Fri, 15 April 2005 00:38
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Yeah with the ackerman on my 28, the inside wheen turns A LOT more than the outside wheel.
If the rack was pushed forward, it would straighten the inside wheel up a bit, and put more angle on the outside wheel.
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Location: Camden
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Project: MWP's 1UZ RA28 Celica (lots of photos!)
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Wed, 20 April 2005 10:24
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I got a hold of an ae82 rack today and found it was slightly narrower than the celica control arm pivot points as apposed to the ke70 rack being too wide. Do you think this will be a problem? What affect could it have? Im still learning about rack and pinion setups but if its either too wide or too narrow could result in bump steer??
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Location: Rocky Mountains, Canada
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Project: MWP's 1UZ RA28 Celica (lots of photos!)
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Wed, 20 April 2005 10:35
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Yeh, it is narrower, not by much tho.
Look at the original steering box inner tie rods width... much narrower again.
I think the AE82 rack may still be too long.
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Location: Terrigal
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Project: MWP's 1UZ RA28 Celica (lots of photos!)
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Wed, 20 April 2005 23:03
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Pube, see my post in tech & conversions..
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Location: Canberra
Registered: June 2003
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Re: Project: MWP's 1UZ RA28 Celica (lots of photos!)
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Wed, 20 April 2005 23:35
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Losing Ackerman isn't a major drama, sems to me the worst that happens is you get more tyre scrub and you lose some turning cirle....make U-turns more fun i reckon
getting bumpsteer spot on is the biggy and mm's make a big difference here so pays to have an adjustable setup to get it right before you do the final welding. i spent 2 days pretty much, just on bumpsteer and we evetually got it pretty well perfect...much better than a stock GT4
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Location: Terrigal
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Project: MWP's 1UZ RA28 Celica (lots of photos!)
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Thu, 21 April 2005 00:22
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Haha yeah U turns are interesting in the Celica.. 4000rpm and dropping clutch seems most effective but no seriously.. its not all that bad. just notice some streets I used to be able to do a U turn in now are a 3point turn.
Yeah I can vouch for wanting to get bump steer correct. My first attempt had like 15mm of toe change across the suspension travel and it felt shocking as you can guess.
But I have the rack mounts sitting on blocks which you can change the thickness of to adjust the height of the rack.. I've got it pretty much right now and probably should look at replacing the alloy for some steel and weld it on and make it more permanent.
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Location: Rocky Mountains, Canada
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Project: MWP's 1UZ RA28 Celica (lots of photos!)
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Thu, 21 April 2005 11:21
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TurboRA28 wrote on Thu, 21 April 2005 09:52 | Yeah I can vouch for wanting to get bump steer correct. My first attempt had like 15mm of toe change across the suspension travel and it felt shocking as you can guess.
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That was with the steering wheel straight?
Or while turned L or R a bit?
It looks like my setup has next to no bumpsteer while straight, but im not sure what its like while turned L or R.
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Location: Terrigal
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Project: MWP's 1UZ RA28 Celica (lots of photos!)
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Thu, 21 April 2005 11:41
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Yeah that was with wheels straight ahead. Likewise I have next to none now.
Hey have you got any pics of the rack mounted on the xmember? Just interested to see your setup.
Cheers
Joel
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Location: Rocky Mountains, Canada
Registered: May 2002
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Location: Terrigal
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Project: MWP's 1UZ RA28 Celica (lots of photos!)
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Fri, 22 April 2005 00:51
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Thats looking very good! So you have used ae82 brackets on both sides?
Also, I cant quite see.. but the alloy spacer you have on the driver side, does that continue right under the mount or is it just 2x blocks to space the brackets up?
Cheers
Joel
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Location: Rocky Mountains, Canada
Registered: May 2002
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Location: Rocky Mountains, Canada
Registered: May 2002
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Location: Rocky Mountains, Canada
Registered: May 2002
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Location: Rocky Mountains, Canada
Registered: May 2002
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Location: Terrigal
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Project: MWP's 1UZ RA28 Celica (lots of photos!)
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Mon, 16 May 2005 01:05
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Looking very good mate! interesting about joining the chassis rails up.. hmm tempting to do this also.
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Location: Hobart, Tas
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Project: MWP's 1UZ RA28 Celica (lots of photos!)
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Mon, 16 May 2005 13:39
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Looking good! How much did the noltec coilover bits cost, and have you got camber tops yet?
The technotoyotuning ones are MUCH cheaper than the noltec ones, and possibly better.
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