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04.12.2005 ( Evening 7:20pm )

Here is Due work progress for everyone who is following the project .
Oh yeh the REAR suspension had been replace with new KAYABA Suspension - not sure if it GOod or BAd to wait till the Car is ready will know by then ,
i am Very please with the work progress - can do with a abit more speed .but i guess is getting along just fine at the right pace .


04.12.2005 ( 3 am morning )

been really really busy
FIX the DEAD LINK
and updated some old photo i took last month which i posted in another forum .
still editing the photo i took yesterday and last week .
will post it up as soon as is done .
weather getting cold . amd the CAR is rusting
hm.... hope the car will be done soon -
wishful hope - 15 days
possible hope- 25 days
ideal hope - 35 days

11.11.2205

Just got back from you truip
with some good hunt .
got a GT grill and some other plate and badges hope you'll ike it - and i am able to order parking lens . Smile if anyone keen do contact me .





07.11.2005
It been Raing alot- i just got some RUst remover for my Car and will try it out in a few days time after i come back from Bangkok and malaysia , singapore.

The Floor panel is almost done and is 80 %
both the side rail had been replace - as well as the centre rail and chassis rail . i am thinking of installing ROll bar in the car for reenforcment of the bodu as it a old car .

the progress is picking up .Smile

03.11.2005
Finally the rain stop and it had progress to the Left panel .
i am thinking to install 16inches rim . i hope it will fit - and the disc brake would hold .

30.10.2005 ( midnight )


I took some photo of the Engine , parts , gearbox - hoping to identify the unit
anyone with any info will be most welcome .

LIST OF PROBLEM -
NO HAND BRAKE - *****( INSTALLED 07-10-2005 )- ONE DOWN
THE EXHUST IS 1.5" FROM THE GROUND ( 2 inches Spacer Added )GROUND CLEARANCE -4.5"

BOTH TIRE IS BARE ( just like F1 tire whahahhahahha )
NO Brake ( or rather almost no brake i wonder how i got it back )_ (new Brake cabel installed -12.10.2005 )
LEFT SIDE MIRROR GONE - RIGHT MIRROR HANGING
RIGHT DOOR HAD BEEN CRASH BEFORE

RIGHT DOOR WINDOW PANEL IS HALF A PCS OF PLASTIC ( FOund Ra23 Window - not sure if it FIT - 26.10.2005)

RIGHT DOOR EXTERIO HANDLE ( MISSING ) ( Found Both side same - Modify inner lock traget - In workshop )

FRONT BUMPER GONE !!!!!! ( found Ugly Purple Front bumper _ trying to Chome IT - 26.10.2005 )

REAR BUMPER GONE !!!!!! Found - UGLY pURPLE REAR BUMPER rA23
TRYING TO CHOME IT -26.10.2005 )

FRONT GRILL GONE !!!!!!!!!!
( FOUND lt GRILL - I WANT A GT gRILL Sad 26.10.2005)

FRONT RIGHT SINGNAL GONE !!!!( found - Old parking indicator 30.10.2005 - need to replace lens )

INTERIO - TOTAL MESS
ALL METER NOT WORKING !!!
( thinking o replace with SKYLINE or St185 speedometer cluster )

GLOVE COMPARTMENT MINI DOOR GONE !!!! STILL LOOKING )

DRIVER SEAT KEEP ROCKING WHEN I DRIVE
( Floor panel replaced 12.10.2005 )
LEFT FRONT WHEEL AND RIGHT FRONT WHEEL MEASURE DIFFRENT LENGHT TO THE REAR - ABOUT 1"' DIFFRENT


THE CHASSIS IS RUSTING BADLY DOOR MIGHT FALL OFF DUE TO RUST
LOWER CHASSIS IS BADLY RUSTED - ANYWAY TO STRENGHTEN IT ?
(replacing Most of the inner Panel . floor , rail . side rail . inner rail . and lower rail . )



27.10.2005
Been busy - huting for parts . found some parts and window panel . and parts of the RIght driver floor panel and side step hade been replace .
See page3
will try to find the front parking indicator as well as the lens .
Smile wish me luck

18.10.2005
THe process is not as fast as i expected
ONe of the craft man came to do some measurment
Hope tomorrow we can see more porgress

17.10.2005
The celica had now been in the workshop for about 3 days
alot of work got to be Done , Today there just remove the Rear window panel reviewing alot of rust
After the Paint is remove , it show alot of Rust and injury part of the Car
I am still Hunting for alot of parts .

Special Thanks to Steven Lil Crash for offering his Help



OK - how would i start , well i start his post hoping it will keep me interested and of cos at the same time share my Problem with Expert here

I just got a Celica - should be Ta22 ( i think ) cos is really Old and rusted
well if you asking me why i got it - my answer would be cos i in love with that Car - my idea of a sport car is a small 2 door car and this car fit all the spec so far .

My car - here some info i got - not sure if it useful
PURCHASE - 01-10-2005
Engine - 1G-GE
Disc Brake - Front , Rear
Body - Badly Rusted
Shock up -Rear- Left wheel - KONI Right wheel - unknown
Exhust - Recently change from Iron to Steel

LIST OF PROBLEM -
NO HAND BRAKE - *****( INSTALLED 07-10-2005 )- ONE DOWN
THE EXHUST IS 1.5" FROM THE GROUND
GROUND CLEARANCE -2.5"
BOTH TIRE IS BARE ( just like F1 tire whahahhahahha )
NO Brake ( or rather almost no brake i wonder how i got it back )
LEFT SIDE MIRROR GONE - RIGHT MIRROR HANGING
RIGHT DOOR HAD BEEN CRASH BEFORE
RIGHT DOOR WINDOW PANEL IS HALF A PCS OF PLASTIC
RIGHT DOOR EXTERIO HANDLE ( MISSING )
FRONT BUMPER GONE !!!!!!
REAR BUMPER GONE !!!!!!
FRONT GRILL GONE !!!!!!!!!!
FRONT RIGHT SINGNAL GONE !!!!
INTERIO - TOTAL MESS
ALL METER NOT WORKING !!!
GLOVE COMPARTMENT MINI DOOR GONE !!!!
DRIVER SEAT KEEP ROCKING WHEN I DRIVE
LEFT FRONT WHEEL AND RIGHT FRONT WHEEL MEASURE DIFFRENT LENGHT TO THE REAR - ABOUT 1"' DIFFRENT
THE CHASSIS IS RUSTING BADLY DOOR MIGHT FALL OFF DUE TO RUST
LOWER CHASSIS IS BADLY RUSTED - ANYWAY TO STRENGHTEN IT ?)


TECH PROBLEM -
KNOCKING WHEN I SHIFT TO GEAR 2
INTERIO IS VERY HOT ( ASSUME AIR CON NOT WORKING
SERIOUSLY WORRYING THAT THE CAR OVERHEAT AND KA-BOOMMMMM
CAR SWAY TOWARD RIGHT WHEN I DRIVE IT
THE WHOLE CAR SHAKE AS IF IT FALLING APART WHEN I HIT 60KM

GOOD POINT -
LOVE THE ENGINE SOUND
IS RUN DOWN BUT IT GIVE ME HOPE
IS KINDA MY DREAM CAR ( LET MAKE IT SO )
IT WILL GIVE ME SOMETHING TO DO RATHER THEN WORK
MEET NEW FORUM AND FELLOW CELICA LOVER


Well this si what i can think of so far

THING i HAD done so far -
WHAT I DONE SO FAR

INSTALLED HAND BRAKE - 3 CABLE HAND BRAKE - I THINK IS TOO NEAR TO THE GEAR SHIFT - WONDER IF I CAN MOVE IT BACK OR BUT A SMALLER HAND BRAKE HANDLE

REPLACE THE OLD BRAKE PUMP WITH A LARGER ONE

REPLACE DICS BRAKE PAD

ADD SPACER TO FRONT AND REAR - 2 INCHES -

GROUD CLEARANCE NOW 3.5 INCHES

REPLACE THE OLD IRON EXHUST PIPE WITH STEEL ONE

ALL DONE ON 07-10-2005


The above is the listed problem so far i notice will keep you'll updated
if anyone have info on how to Fix those problem please let me know

I am really new to this and in fact this is my First Car
i will try to post some photo of the Car so you'll have a rough idea.








http://www.iconfury.com/celica/front.jpg

http://www.iconfury.com/celica/front2.jpg

http://www.iconfury.com/celica/leftview.jpg

http://www.iconfury.com/celica/rightview.jpg

http://www.iconfury.com/celica/door.jpg

http://www.iconfury.com/celica/interio.jpg

http://www.iconfury.com/celica/glove.jpg

http://www.iconfury.com/celica/engine.jpg

http://www.iconfury.com/celica/driver.jpg




A picture say a million words
cheer to everyone -
i need advice , suggestion , comment , idea , knowdgle , all welcome
Thanks you
Osix

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Re: osix celica project 001 Sun, 09 October 2005 01:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wouldn't it be expensive to register this car in Singapore dude? Being over 10 years old and all?

Just a question Razz
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Re: osix celica project 001 Sun, 09 October 2005 02:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
well - i am from singapore - but now i Stay in Thailand

yep you are Right it would be $$$$$$$ to regsiter this car in Singapore - is better off scraping it and buy a new toyota

lucky me Smile i am in the land of Smile

where i can follow my dream and chase what i love Smile

cheer - i need all kinda help and advice od parts and repair and problem i would face with this baby Smile so shower me answer ok Smile

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Re: osix celica project 001 Sun, 09 October 2005 18:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Today i did some crazy stuff - not knowing what to Do .
and with little knowledge of fixing a Car or restoring it - i attemp to remove part from the car - carfully keeping the rusted NUTS and joints

Here is some of the Photo i took of the Car Now -

http://iconfury.com/celica/rightdoor.jpg
I and my father remove the right Door got a pcs of plastic window panel is stuck inside it half broken into two - - we remove the pcs of plastic and now is hunting for the glass window panel - cross finger
http://iconfury.com/celica/rightfront.jpg
here is the right side view of the car after i remove the front panel

The front right side of the car is dented from some kinda impact so we remove it all the nuts is badly rusted and the lower end is badly damage
- will try to take photo of the front right pcs for viewing tomorrow

http://iconfury.com/celica/frontwheel.jpg
here is a photo of the Front right wheel can see that the car had been painted yellow before

http://iconfury.com/celica/doorhinge.jpg
The rusted door hinge 2 of the 6 pcs nuts had been replaces with some weird looking nuts - and all the nuts is badly rusted and the door panel itself is hack badly to install some ugly looking speaker pity this car more !!!!!!

http://iconfury.com/celica/frontright.jpg
This is front right headlamp and parking light lens area - is badly dented from a crash i assume - any suggestion on how can i fix this - i need front and rear bumper - anyone ?
http://iconfury.com/celica/leftfloor.jpg
I remove the LEFT chair - and the Floor mat inside is WET !!!!
so i remove every thing cutting away the old mat - reviewing The Badly RUSTED lower chassis - - feel like Crying - someone advice me on what should i do - i can see hole on the lower chassis and i think is like 1-2mm i worry if i put on leg weight on it it might fall off while i travel at 60km
- poor car!!! any good suggestion on how to fix this ?
http://iconfury.com/celica/leftfloor2.jpg
Here is another photo on the left front chassis from the inside

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I had also remove the RIght driver seat - is the same - in fact much much worst - will take some photo tomorrow - .


http://iconfury.com/celica/backright.jpg
This is the Rust leaking part i saw on the rear right side of the car - i had remove the Paint with a tool - reviewing a large Rusted Patch about 2 feet wide - in fact about 1 cup of rusty water pour out of the side when i was trying to remove it .will take some photo tomorrow for viewing .

- This car is making me cry . but i know i will safe it and give hope to it

Please advice on and suggest .where i should start and what i should look out for . i need serious help here:) cheer .
osix .Smile
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Re: osix celica project 001 updated 10.10.2005 Mon, 10 October 2005 01:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hate to say it.. but i think she's a goner. that much rust. that many missing bits. time to say goodbye Sad
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Re: osix celica project 001 updated 10.10.2005 Mon, 10 October 2005 02:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
unless you're a panelbeater & sprayer by trade, this car is gonna cost you a fortune to make proper. A rust patch 2 feet wide? and judging by all the other rust spots on this car (and salt deposits?) I'm guessing this car lived near the beach most of its life, and is very near going to celica heaven
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Re: osix celica project 001 updated 10.10.2005 Mon, 10 October 2005 03:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
btw, thats a 1G-FE, not 1G-GE
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Re: osix celica project 001 updated 10.10.2005 Mon, 10 October 2005 06:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i am not sure of about alot of Thing
And today i just remove about 5kg of Rust myself from just under the front Seat - will show some photo later when i have time to take a photo - more or less i have set my mind to restore the CAR- as this is the only celica i can find - this is a good chance i learn more about the car with the process of restoring it to it pink Smile


* I NEED THE MEASUREMENT OF BOTH THEN FRONT AND REAR BUMPER
SO I CAN GET A WORKSHOP TO CUSTOM IT CAN ANYONE HELP ME WITH THIS ?

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Re: osix celica project 001 updated 10.10.2005 Mon, 10 October 2005 12:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
To save this car,you are going to have to dismantle it completely and get it sandblasted. Then you can work out everything that needs to be done by looking at whats left of the car. ALL the rust will need to be cut out and new sheet metal welded in. The chassis needs to go onto an aligning jig once new chassis sections have been welded in just to make sure the car is straight. This car will take an extraordinary amount of work to restore back to good condition.
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Re: osix celica project 001 updated 10.10.2005 Mon, 10 October 2005 12:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
uh, nice sandles?
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Re: osix celica project 001 updated 10.10.2005 Mon, 10 October 2005 13:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
well. my input in this is good luck, cause ur certainly gonna need it Razz

but also, its not a ta22. it looks to be an ra23.
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Re: osix celica project 001 updated 10.10.2005 Mon, 10 October 2005 14:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ra23's have a longer engine bay than the TA22's dont they?

they also dont have the same style flutes that he has.

im pretty sure its a ta22, with GT flutes, and im not sure if the ra23 had the "bonnet bulge" i know the ra28 did.

it also looks like a very tight fit in the engine bay, which further makes it look like a ta22, seeing as theres more room in an r series celica bay...

its been a while since ive bothered to learn anything new about these wonderful rides, so i am most probably wrong.

i applaude anyone that wants to do these things up, its quite the adventure!

i had one for a very short time, the workload to fix it was boardering astronomical.

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Re: osix celica project 001 updated 10.10.2005 Mon, 10 October 2005 15:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
- I had talk to a friends here with a good workshop - and two workshop will work hand in hand to repair this car - one will handle the body while there other will handle the engine and electrical aspect .

- i took more photo today of the car and a few more shot of the Engine - will post it up later today - 1G-GE ??? 1G-FE ???
i was told is a 1G-GE some someone posted that it might be 1G-FE so i am confuse whahahhaha let try to find out

The advice so far had been great and useful - Thanks you'll so much - i hope within 1-2 days i can arrange the workshop and i will post the progress as offen as possible -
today i had took out the front seat and rear seat - and also bang on the rust on the back compartment .

All this advice is giving me hope that i can do it - Smile

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Re: osix celica project 001 updated 10.10.2005 Mon, 10 October 2005 21:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ok here is the Lastest Photo update of my RUSTY CELICA
Here are some of the RUST photo on te INterio after i took out All thE seats
May God have mercy on my celica

http://www.iconfury.com/celica/rust1.jpg
http://www.iconfury.com/celica/rust2.jpg
http://www.iconfury.com/celica/rust3.jpg
http://www.iconfury.com/celica/rust4.jpg
http://www.iconfury.com/celica/rust5.jpg

I think the Hedge for the Driver seat is Gone or broken off that why you see a large hole near on above image-rust5.jpg the late owner use a long nuts to tis it and a pcs of metal on the bottom to tighten it - that is why when i drive the driver seat is rocky - cos is not secure - !!! with that thin layer of chassis i am lucky to be alive driving the car home whahhahaha ANY IDEA WHAT IS BEST way to FIX it ???
http://www.iconfury.com/celica/rusty.jpg
RUsty RAG from under the carpet from the inner interio after i move it .

http://www.iconfury.com/celica/inner.jpg
this is the inner shot of the car after all the seat is remove notic there is alot of HOLES - i recently had the handbrake installed and i felt that is too close to the Gear shift - The seat belt bucket is also damage -
The gear shift box is just supported by two pcs of steel plate losely mounted with a few nuts

http://www.iconfury.com/celica/handbrake.jpg
Here a shot of the Handbrake i installed few days ago
http://www.iconfury.com/celica/handbrake2.jpg
here another shot from the another side of it - i am thinking to move the handbrake 2-3 inches back from the gear shift - or anyone suggest on what kinda car offer shorter handbrake handle - ???
TO BE COUNTINE ............
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Re: osix celica project 001 updated 10.10.2005 Mon, 10 October 2005 21:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
http://www.iconfury.com/celica/reareside.jpg
i have remove the paint from the rearside right hand door - reviewing a large patch of rust - below is the photo before i remove it
http://www.iconfury.com/celica/backright.jpg
BEFORE - above is AFTER
http://www.iconfury.com/celica/boot.jpg
this is the rear compartment full of rust also but not as bad whahah just a few less hole and i get to cover it
http://www.iconfury.com/celica/rear.jpg
Rear view of my celica
http://www.iconfury.com/celica/vespa.jpg
COFFEE BREAK here a side photo - the lovely VESPa that belong to my Younger Brother - KEITH
http://www.iconfury.com/celica/benz.jpg
MY Father Benz --my father is a fan of the W123 230E - he drive the same car back when we stay in SIngapore and got the same car when we move here . is a nice car but i think is too Big .
http://www.iconfury.com/celica/steering.jpg
Here a shot of under the steering wheel all the messy wiring
http://www.iconfury.com/celica/ecu.jpg
not sure if it call the ECU unit - same wiring is losely done and messy - set the stardard for UGLY
To BE CONTIUNE ...........
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Re: osix celica project 001 updated 10.10.2005 Mon, 10 October 2005 21:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
http://www.iconfury.com/celica/engine1.jpg

ENGINE - 1G-GE - 24v -DOHC 1988cc 160hp@6200
* someone say this is 1G-FE ????
So here a photo if anyone know more info of this Engine PLEASE share Smile
http://www.iconfury.com/celica/cable.jpg
The cable love the color
http://www.iconfury.com/celica/parts.jpg
i WOnder what is this parts - some kinda voltage control i think no idea Razz http://www.iconfury.com/celica/brakepump.jpg
Ok Here is Photo of the BRAKE PUMP i recently Installed got it for $75usd
and installation $30 .
was told is a suzuki jeep brake pump - anyoneknow better ???

http://www.iconfury.com/celica/seat.jpg
Celica Seat after i move it - with my Honda Dream and the front end of my Keith mazda 929 ( rx4 ???)
http://www.iconfury.com/celica/seat2.jpg
The rear Seat With the SONY X-POD mp3 audio system ( whahah in my father benz thinking of Getting the Same system for my Celica

Smile The car will be going to the Workshop IN a few days time -
The workshop is 20 min away from my House and will go there offen to take Photo Update - i am looking for many parts and custom making alot more - so i need more info and spec as to how i can do it well
mY Rear Disc brake look ODDS .

I am also thinking of USING - 225/55/16 - 205/50/16
Wheel ? is it a good idea Which is BETTER -What is BEST ?
anyone ?WHAT SIZE RIm and Tire IS BEST - should the FRont and Rear end be the SAme ? What look NICE - ? I am using my Car for About 2000km per month usually i drive 500km on one week end to visit my friends

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Re: osix celica project 001 updated 10.10.2005 Tue, 11 October 2005 01:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
EldarO wrote on Tue, 11 October 2005 00:38

ra23's have a longer engine bay than the TA22's dont they?

they also dont have the same style flutes that he has.

im pretty sure its a ta22, with GT flutes, and im not sure if the ra23 had the "bonnet bulge" i know the ra28 did.

it also looks like a very tight fit in the engine bay, which further makes it look like a ta22, seeing as theres more room in an r series celica bay...

its been a while since ive bothered to learn anything new about these wonderful rides, so i am most probably wrong.

i applaude anyone that wants to do these things up, its quite the adventure!

i had one for a very short time, the workload to fix it was boardering astronomical.

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i dunno wat 'flutes' are exactly, but the ta22 didnt have those indicator style, and the ra23 im quite sure does have the scoop. from wat i remember, the ra23 has most the ra28 cosmetics. ofcourse not the rear, but the bonnet scoop and vents...

also, it would make more sense me thinks if it was a ra23, cause isnt this engine a straight bolt in?
if its not a ra23, its gotta be a ta23. cause they have the smaller engine bay, but all the ra23 cosmetics. its jus those indicators are a dead give away. the bonnet sorta comes over them and they are more rectangle then the ta22 style which are angle at the front and more triangular...

i could be wrong. plz sum1 correct me if i am...
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Re: osix celica project 001 UPDATED 11.10.2005 NeW PHOTO Tue, 11 October 2005 01:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
on a seperate count, i think theres a good chance, that the majority of this car is made up of rust. remove it and ull be left wif 4 wheels, and a steering wheel.
and ofcourse ur gear nob... lol

if this celica didnt usually live near the sea, it was deffinetly under it at one stage?

its gonna take alot of work to do this, but if its the only one uve seen, then its gotta be rare and hard to get there. and all the more reason to do it.
but wouldnt it be easier to get one brought over from sumwhere else?

goodluck with it either way,
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Re: osix celica project 001 UPDATED 11.10.2005 NeW PHOTO Tue, 11 October 2005 06:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
my advice - most important aspect is safety. The structural strength of the car is critical. Looks as though the car has takin a hit in the front right, hence the wheelbase difference. There's alot of rust but it can be fixed with a lot of work. So, first point of call is to get the chassis straightened and strengthened. Once you've got a straight car its going to come down to man hours to remove the rust and replace with new floor and panels etc.

Once you got a straight rust free car, im sure the folks here at toymods will have every major or minor modification possible for you to do.
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Re: osix celica project 001 UPDATED 11.10.2005 NeW PHOTO Tue, 11 October 2005 06:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
it looks like the entire drivers side floor pan needs to be completely cut out and re-done, and that's at the least!

I'd be concerned about putting it on a chassis straightener... the chassis might straighten and break off all the rusted panels Razz
you got yourself one helluva project there
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Re: osix celica project 001 UPDATED 11.10.2005 NeW PHOTO Tue, 11 October 2005 11:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
- I Totally agree with the SAFETY aspect of re building a car - what the Point of having a car that look nice but can't give you the basis of secure when you travel -

I spend the whole day inspecting workshop and talking to people
trying to get the Most info - i am not sure if a Small workshop can deal with the body - on the other hand those big workshop charge a bomb -

So i got to make up my mind in a few days -

hERE A feW sure info -

the car neeed to be totally rebuild -
Clear of all rust
The front and back bumper need to be custom or somehow i find one
i am using 2k paint with good rust proof ( my idea not sure if it right please advice )

I would take full note of the safety advice and look into it - and might bring my limit higher to fix this Car .

Cheer showe me with advice and suggestion .

MY Guess is that this is a TA22 Not sure if it TA23
Look more like a GT
http://www.iconfury.com/celica/leftview.jpg
Here a phoo of the left view - the centre air vent is a custom not of the Org car -

The engine Is still a question 1G-GE or 1G-FE
my guess 1G-GE
Any clue ?

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Re: osix celica project 001 UPDATED 11.10.2005 NeW PHOTO Tue, 11 October 2005 14:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i JUST got a ENGINE INFO UPDATE

SOME WHERE IN the OWNERSHIP log book
i FOUND -

"" 1G-5430297 "

Anyone out there can decode this and shed more ligh to the ENGINE i am using

eg. YEARS - Model , ECT ECT

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Re: osix celica project 001 UPDATED 11.10.2005 NeW PHOTO Wed, 12 October 2005 00:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hey, certainly looks to be an early ('71ish) TA22, based on the flat tail lights and front indicators and bonnet. Engine looks like a 1G-FE cause it's too thin to be a GE and has different cam covers.
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Re: osix celica project 001 UPDATED 11.10.2005 NeW PHOTO Wed, 12 October 2005 01:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
yeh, theres no doubt. that photo shows it better, for me atleast. the front indicators are angled. i thought they were flat b4.

yeh, its a ta22. my bad...Rolling Eyes better go get my eyes checked Razz

and regarding engine, im not fully 'up to scratch' wif this. but it looks to me to be a 1gfe. but dont take my word for it.
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Re: osix celica project 001 UPDATED 11.10.2005 NeW PHOTO Wed, 12 October 2005 19:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I am still confuse to what Engine the Car is -

i am seriously considering Doing the Restoration job myself -

But i am hoping some workshop can help me here

_ Someone suggest that i replace those Rust panel on the CAR Chassis Bed - hm... Can i get them at the local junk yard ? what Car would be good replacment -

I can't find the Front and Rear Bumper - What should i do if i can't find them -
any suggestion as to what other Bumper look close or is easy to remodel to fix the celica - hm..

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Re: osix celica project 001 UPDATED 11.10.2005 NeW PHOTO Thu, 13 October 2005 02:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hi

I strongly susgest that you find another shell

that looks like a $10 000 plus job even if the workshop is willing to take on a project like that.

Im not sure if there are many First generation celicas where you are but you could at least find a decent stock shell and transfer the engine and other goodies over?

As for the engine i would guess that it is a 1GFE motor. please note i have never seen a 1GFE however it doesnt look like any if the 1GGE's i have seen and it has very similar cam covers/head construction to a 4AFE which is essentially a 4 cylinder version of this engine.

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Re: osix celica project 001 UPDATED 11.10.2005 NeW PHOTO Thu, 13 October 2005 04:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
definitly a TA22, but not a 71, has got a side fuel filler instead of the one between the taillights.

osix, pre 77 celica's (on this side of the world at least) never came stock with a G series engine which is part of the reason people are unsure of what it is, somebody has probably done an engine swap.

as for fixing it i'd say it would be expensive, but worth it if its the only one over your way. for floor pans you'd be best off finding a panelbeater who can build new ones to suit from scratch. this would be a pretty expensive way to go though, hope you've got heaps of spare dollars.

and for bumpers and stuff have a look in the parts for sale section, i'm sure there are people who could send stuff over your way. would add to the expense but still cheaper than getting custom stuff made up.

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Re: osix celica project 001 UPDATED 11.10.2005 NeW PHOTO Fri, 14 October 2005 18:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I finally found a workshop to help me with the Celica
Not sure if it the BEST , but is a man with warm heart

Here is a FEw photo update - been busy and was Raining will try to take more Photo tomorrow

Today i spend the whole morning helping the workshop to remove Paint and also removing parts from the celica

http://iconfury.com/celica/workshop1.jpg

Here is a front side view of the car after the Paint is removed -
about 10-12 mm of paint and patty

http://iconfury.com/celica/front3.jpg

This is the Frot Right Parking Indicator unit - aftee the Paint is removed .

Smile OSix

Hunting for -Right Exterio DOOR handle _ anyone out there can sell me a pair ?

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Re: osix celica project 001 UPDATED 11.10.2005 NeW PHOTO Fri, 14 October 2005 20:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
it is definately a ta22 with gt bonnet vents, clear indicators and rear grills. the number plate has been moved for sum weird reason. the person who previously had this car had a big fibreglass front bar on it. the add on bit on the fan/heater was standard in sum cars. it looks like a 1gfe to me i have added a pic of a 1gfe to the bottom of this post for comparison.

if you eva decide to give up i would be interested in buying your bonnet vents and rear vents.

laterdays and good luck

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/2310/1gfe9xu.jp g

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Re: osix celica project 001 UPDATED 11.10.2005 NeW PHOTO Fri, 14 October 2005 20:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hm... How much would you Offer for the front Bonnet Vent

and also where are you - i might be keen in exxhanging for parts

I know little of this car .

i am looking for

FRONT GT GRILL
EXTERIO RIGHT DOOR HANDLE
A SET OF FRONT PARKING LIGHT INDICATOR UNIT OR
AMBER LENS

osix

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i can get the indicators and the door handle from the wrecker down the road. i would happily sell them to u for wat they cost me to buy + postage if u like. im more so after the rear vents as mine are flaking off. but i can offer u $50 (i know its a bit low, but its all i can afford) for the bonnet vents
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Re: osix celica project 001 UPDATED 11.10.2005 NeW PHOTO Sat, 15 October 2005 12:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Send me your e-mail or if you use MSN add me and we talk more about it I am staying in ASIA - where are you from -

We might just have a deal Here bonnet VENT -
MY
MSN - linkz@hotmail.com

Can you Find out how much it cost
For THe Pair of Exterio door Handle
As well as The parking Indicator Unit ( with lens _ prefer amber color one If not white one will do .
Indicartor is One pair both left and right for TA22
Same go for the door handle -

Here is a photo in case you got the wrong one on how it look like
http://www.iconfury.com/celica/indicator.jpg
http://www.iconfury.com/celica/doorhandle.jpg

Do you want a photo of the Vent ? i go take one for you
Might might need a paint job . or youw ant me to repaint it for you as the Bonnet is not in the paint workshop which i can repaint it for you for a little money

OSix
Conact me soon ok

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Re: osix celica project 001 UPDATED 11.10.2005 NeW PHOTO Sat, 15 October 2005 21:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hey, like someone suggested, maybe it will be cheaper and safer, to get a new shell. You can probably ship one from OZ, to where you are, cheaper then fixing this! That is ALOt of rust!
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your on my msn now so il talk to u on there

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Re: osix celica project 001 UPDATED 11.10.2005 NeW PHOTO Sun, 16 October 2005 04:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
the guys are right - the body looks shot mate..

you would be better off trying to source another shell to start with if you want a ta22 or early celica.. theres going to be ALOT of money and time involved refabricating all the parts that have oxidised beyond repair, that is Unless you know someone whos fully quialified to re engineer the car , basically from scratch ..


Just my 2 cents - sad to seea a project you seem so keen on doing , but alas , this one seems to be beyond redemption

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in summary - its fucked. unrepairable and unsafe. it has seriously been at the bottom of a fish tank for 30years. there is NO metal left!!!! its all just solid rust!!!

Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked

what you are considering is not a 'restoration' rather a 'complete recreation'

buy a new shell. full stop

http://www.iconfury.com/celica/rust2.jpg

http://www.iconfury.com/celica/rust5.jpg

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Re: osix celica project 001 UPDATED 11.10.2005 NeW PHOTO Sun, 16 October 2005 05:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
as I said before, it's FUBAR. looks like it was used as a keel in a yacht for extended periods.

As Ed said: you won't be doing a restoration, you'll be building it from scratch.

chassis is bent from the acco, every panel is fucked (including all floorpans, boot pan). so there's not much really worth keeping there.

I'm all for the "big project" restoration, but generally for one of those ultimate projects you start off with a decent chassis and a few panels, and above all else *minimal rust!*.
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Re: osix celica project 001 UPDATED 11.10.2005 NeW PHOTO Sun, 16 October 2005 21:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Been really Busy - Finally got to sit down infront of my Computer and update the Photo i took yesterday

The Celica Now is In the Workshop _ and the photo i am going to show might be shocking Smile whahhahahah PG-18


http://iconfury.com/celica/rebirth.jpg
http://iconfury.com/celic./rebirth1.jpg
http://iconfury.com/celica/rebirth2.jpg
http://iconfury.com/celica/rebirth3.jpg
http://iconfury.com/celica/rebirth4.jpg
http://iconfury.com/celica/rebirth5.jpg
http://iconfury.com/celica/rebirth6.jpg
http://iconfury.com/celica/rebirth7.jpg
http://iconfury.com/celica/rebirth8.jpg
http://iconfury.com/celica/rebirth9.jpg


I Wouls like to THANKS StEVEN LIL CRASH FROm Queenland for offering to Help me on MY PROJECT .

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Re: osix celica project 001 UPDATED 17.10.2005 SHOCKING PHOTO Mon, 17 October 2005 05:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
One of the Very Reason i Am putting effort to restpring this Car
Is Cos i Believe that - Everything can be FIT

After all IF someone out there Made the First Car - And so on
All can be Done - And Till This days there are still CAr that is HAndMade _

My only problem Now is Tools . to get the right jog Done , you need the Right tools.
Here in Thiland is so limited with Tools .
So much of the Restpration is Done using IMagination
Much time is done sitting thre trying to Imagine what can be Done and how to
come up with way to replace the lack of tools to get the job done -

Alot of advice is Greatly helpful to me here .
eg. the floor panel replacment ,

ThIs car is really at it BEST ( bottom up )
that why it to take more attention to get it to it BEST

Alot of the Interio i had not cover - so far we are just touching the Surface

THE axle - the disc brake Unit
The engine is all un touch - i would expect more problem to come
and more thing to slove

My greatest problem now is

EXTERIO DOOR HANDLE - RIGHT SIDE
FRONT PARKING INDICATOR - RIGHT ( Whole unit -)
FRONT AND REAR BUMPER ( i need the Measurment )

Tail Light ( i am considering finding something to replace it - or modify it

IF anyone can get me this stuff please let me know and we will arrange for payment and shipment - A.s.a.p

OSIX

Thanks you everyone for your words of advice and support

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Re: osix celica project 001 UPDATED 17.10.2005 SHOCKING PHOTO Mon, 17 October 2005 05:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
so, recovered from the sea-bed, and now caught in a house fire?!?!? unlucky!

looking good!! Laughing Shocked Laughing Shocked

seriously, if you think youre up for it - go for it. its a big job though. maybe you can pull it off?!
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Re: osix celica project 001 UPDATED 17.10.2005 SHOCKING PHOTO Mon, 17 October 2005 06:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
if I was feeling really mean I'd put a poll up so everyone can rate the chances of this project getting finished Razz the floor pan will actually be relatively easy, you can just bodgy it up with sheet metal. of course, everything you weld that to will have to be rust free, and just about every piece of metal I can see is thoroughly rusted
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Re: osix celica project 001 UPDATED 17.10.2005 SHOCKING PHOTO Mon, 17 October 2005 06:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
You're mad.
As much as I admire your persistence, there comes a time when a car is simply not worth recovering.
You could easily get one without rust in AU for ~1000$. Add in shipping and it'll still cost less than recreating yours from scratch.
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Re: osix celica project 001 UPDATED 17.10.2005 SHOCKING PHOTO Mon, 17 October 2005 08:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Engine is definitely a 1G-FE.

Good luck. That is a lot of work ahead of you there.
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Good on you dude,.

I say, goodluck,. If it doesn't work out,. So be it,

No harm done,..


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Re: osix celica project 001 UPDATED 17.10.2005 SHOCKING PHOTO Mon, 17 October 2005 09:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
what the hell is a 1g-fe?
sorry never heard of this fella... what it come in?

is it just an early model 1g-ge?
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Re: osix celica project 001 UPDATED 17.10.2005 SHOCKING PHOTO Mon, 17 October 2005 12:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
yeah look honestly, i've seen cars rebuilt from worse conditon - and you're right, anything is do-able, it's just metal - but like the others said, it's going to be quicker, cheaper, safer, and you'll end up with a better, stronger, cleaner overall car if you just take the good bits out of this shell, find another old celica, and have this death trap taken to the crusher

that's what you'd do over here, where you could probably pick up a half decent old celica for a few hundred bucks, and a really neat one for under a few thousand, it may be different where you are from

however, if you're serious about this car, stop what you're doing right now. focus on the bent chassis and non-existant structural strength of the floor before you even THINK about little things like the handbrake or gearbox or indicators. this car really needs to be stripped of anything that can be unbolted, put on a rotisserie and have over half the body metal re-made from new plate and box section

much like this car
http://www.yaboo.co.jp/kansei/O_TE-27/frame.htm
click the tabs up the top to see the progression
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Re: osix celica project 001 UPDATED 17.10.2005 SHOCKING PHOTO Mon, 17 October 2005 12:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
1G GE - is a early model - early 1982 - 1986 i think

1G FE is a later model - Early 1988 - 1990

THe GE model is a SPort model .
FE is a more economy model

Well i hope i got this right but you can get info online easily with Toyota engine spec

Smile Will be dis-mounting the Engine next week - and will take more photo and see what Engine i am using

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Re: osix celica project 001 UPDATED 17.10.2005 SHOCKING PHOTO Mon, 17 October 2005 13:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Quote:

My greatest problem now is

EXTERIO DOOR HANDLE - RIGHT SIDE
FRONT PARKING INDICATOR - RIGHT ( Whole unit -)
FRONT AND REAR BUMPER ( i need the Measurment )



Dude, these are the least of your problems.

Quote:

yeah look honestly, i've seen cars rebuilt from worse conditon


Yes but the car would have been worth a f*%k load more and a shit load rarer.
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Re: osix celica project 001 UPDATED 17.10.2005 SHOCKING PHOTO Mon, 17 October 2005 19:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
To is a slow day - i spend 3 hour at the workshop helping to scrap the paint off the rusty celica

Which is better 2k primer or arcliyic primer
i am confuse - after we remove the Paint - what should be the correct Cost to be use ? anyone can advice

Here is the photo update for 18.10.2005
http://iconfury.com/celica/g.jpg
http://iconfury.com/celica/g1.jpg
http://iconfury.com/celica/g2.jpg
http://iconfury.com/celica/g3.jpg
http://iconfury.com/celica/g4.jpg
http://iconfury.com/celica/g5.jpg
http://iconfury.com/celica/g6.jpg
http://iconfury.com/celica/g7.jpg
http://iconfury.com/celica/g8.jpg
http://iconfury.com/celica/g9.jpg

I am pondering what Model or what kinda car did the last onwer got the rear axle from - the celica i got come with the rear disc brake - someone got me is a mitsubishi rear someone told me is a toyota i am confuse
so i got some photo after i jack the car from the rear

- What would be the correct STEP to do - in order to get a good Paint job .

What kinda Primer i should use . anyone with any info do let me know
tomorrow i will have more photo as some ofthe parts i custom order is done .

OSIX
i am looking for Gt grill as well as Front parking Indicator unit both left and right .


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Re: osix celica project 001 UPDATED 17.10.2005 SHOCKING PHOTO Mon, 17 October 2005 22:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
seriously osix, don't waste the money on paint yet, you NEED to fix the other problems this car has before that. painting is the LAST thing you do

my god, look at the rails! the first time you drop the clutch or get sideways in this thing, you'll probably tear it in half! fix the rust
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Re: osix celica project 001 UPDATED 17.10.2005 SHOCKING PHOTO Wed, 26 October 2005 18:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Been busy busy busy huting for Celica Parts ..

I finally Found some TA23 PArts and i was wondering if THose fit .
I found - Door handle - i think i got both Left side -

Can i modify abit so i can use it on Both door ?

i found TA23 Door window panel ? wondering if it will Fit Ta22
i found front and rear bumper - Bad shape - and is painted in purple
thinking of Choming it but was wondering if that can be done .

front Lt Grill - might use it as a model to build a custom GT grill .

Ok here is some Progress Update of MY celica .

Alot of thing had been replace . and this following photo is kinda shocking to some of my friends Smile

This is the RIGHT DOOR side - Bad rust had been replace with new Parts .the progress is very slow ... but i think he Guy is doing a great job
http://iconfury.com/celica/rightside1.jpg
http://iconfury.com/celica/rightside2.jpg
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http://iconfury.com/celica/rightside4.jpg

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Re: osix celica project 001 UPDATED 17.10.2005 SHOCKING PHOTO Wed, 26 October 2005 18:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
THe Side Step is being replace also with a new Panel custom order with extra Thickness - most of the metal i replace is 1.6mm not sure if it that thick whahhahaha a

http://iconfury.com/celica/sidestep.jpg
http://iconfury.com/celica/sidestep2.jpg
http://iconfury.com/celica/sidestep3.jpg

Both side is being replace .

* Seatbelt Bolt panel is also being replace with new Bolt too .ugly but with some touch up o hope it look good. COlOR BOLT ??? idea
http://iconfury.com/celica/seatbelt1.jpg


Here is a photo of the FLOOR panel .
not the BEST design award but there sure are Strong Stuff - -
Extra thickness Smile crazy newbie everything also extra thick whahhahah a
http://iconfury.com/celica/floorpanel.jpg
http://iconfury.com/celica/floorpanel1.jpg
Above is a close up of how it look like when it DOne .

** Smile THis is a Shot of how the RIGHT driver side is DOne . The floor panel is being replace and the SIde Step as well as the inner Panel is replace - hope it LAst .
http://iconfury.com/celica/rightdone.jpg

Here is a Photo from UNDER the RIGHT Floor panel
The Metal panel under the Floor panel is being replace also .
No idea what it call but anyway here the SHot
http://iconfury.com/celica/underfloor.jpg

OH yeh almost forget ..LAST but not least
THE GEARBOX had been rebuild to Fit the 1G-FE engine as the gear extent out from the org. BOX
here is a shot
http://iconfury.com/celica/gearbox.jpg


Hope I can improve - will update more when i got time - leaving for Some bussiness trip - and maybe will try to hunt down some of the Parking light lens .

Kindly advice , suggest , and comment Smile
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Re: osix celica project 001 UPDATED 27.10.2005 UPDATED PHOTO Wed, 26 October 2005 18:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
wow. tell your guy that's excellent work on the floor, it looks like it's been entirely remade - sills, rails, pan, everything. it definitely needed it! do the other side as well Smile
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Re: osix celica project 001 UPDATED 27.10.2005 UPDATED PHOTO Wed, 26 October 2005 19:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Thanks - i think so too he is doing a great job ..
THis is only the primany stage - will need all the help and advice i can get .

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Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked

holy f*ck... i take it all back. excellent job, not too many people get into it quite like this!!
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dam, thats an amazing job! Keep up the good work. Smile
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Inspirational. Eye Spin


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Your persistance and dedication is nothing short of staggering.

When I first started reading this, I've thought
"There's no way. He'll get into it, and then realise how much work is involved, and move onto something else".

Glad to be proven wrong!

I think your next step is the chassis rails. If you don't know what they are, your workshop man should. Judging from the pictures, there looked to be quite a bit of rust underneath your car in the chassis rails. It is absolutely critical that you get ALL of this rust cut out and re-welded. Whatever you do, DON'T LEAVE IT! Chassis rail rust is probably the single most import piece of rust to get rid of.
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Re: osix celica project 001 UPDATED 27.10.2005 UPDATED PHOTO Thu, 27 October 2005 05:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
wow ma when i started briefly looking over this thread i looked at that floorpan and thought hrrm hes going to turn it into a fred flinstone car there cant be anthing else its good for but woah was i wrong what a top job the quality and extent of the work that has been done so far this should be a space to watch!!
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Re: osix celica project 001 UPDATED 27.10.2005 UPDATED PHOTO Thu, 27 October 2005 06:38 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
Hi
Thanks you'll so Much for the support and advice .


joorsh - i am not sure what is a Chassis RAIL ..
BUt i am assuming this one is the One -
I try to replace most of the MAIN _BONe on the Car -

Here a attach photo - letme know if i am wrong - or try to indenty the part for me

http://iconfury.com/celica/underfloor.jpg

I had custom that - making it aboout 1.5 inches larger then the Original part Under the Floor panel - , are you refering to the Parts That is supporting the FLoor panel ( chassis rail ? )
This Pcs is from the front to the driver seat lenght -
i have both had extra lenght and width to it - as well as the thickness of the metal . 1.6mm - had a hard time trying to get the metal panel shop to make extra groove on the panel to strenghten the floor panel .


Or is it a Cross Bar that is across from the left to right ?
will show some photo son made that already .


kindly show me some kinda photo - if you can . all this is SO new to me . and i am trying hard even to understand The name of each parts .
THis is my first CAR . and my first celica Smile

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