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Re: AW11 owners anonymous
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Wed, 26 October 2005 12:49
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| kingmick wrote on Tue, 25 October 2005 19:05 |
turn the housing yourself!i found the best way with gt2535.look at spanks.
spanktowns getting his exhaust done on saturday,if you ask him you might be able to go and see it while its up on the hoist.make life easy for you,
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very nice way of routing the pipes/turbo positioning, if i go turbo i want to keep yee ol air con compressor, so getting the turbo as far over from it is paramount 
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous
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Thu, 27 October 2005 06:49
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Hey there!sorry to break the convo but i was just wondering what alternative engines people have fitted into an AW11 (ive heard of people using the engines from the SW20 range). I was thinking it would be pretty sweet to stick a honda 1600cc vtec in there or even (if it would fit) a 2 litre type R engine. The 2 litre would be awesome as there is a off the shelf bolt on supercharger and LSD kit in the UK that gives it around 350BHP!!! 
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous
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Thu, 27 October 2005 06:53
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well save yourself the trouble and buy a honda!lmao
mick
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous
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Thu, 27 October 2005 07:28
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yeah but honda's are front wheel drive which is poop!! You should just be able to get a honda half cut and stick the engine in the back, plenty of mid engined kit cars use a front wheel drive donor!
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous
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Thu, 27 October 2005 07:29
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you could put a honda motor and box in the front boot and leave the 4ag in the rear!lmao
mick
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous
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Thu, 27 October 2005 07:30
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and the mr2 isnt a FWD setup!lol
mick
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous
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Thu, 27 October 2005 09:51
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Honda motors spin the wrong way 
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous
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Thu, 27 October 2005 09:58
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one of my fav questions is" which is the right way for a motor to turn"gets people every time.
hahahahahaahah
mick
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous
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Thu, 27 October 2005 10:08
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There are a few technical reasons as to why an engine should turn one application or another but no there really is no 'right' way.
What I should have said is that honda engines spin the wrong way for a toyota drivetrain.
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous
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Thu, 27 October 2005 10:24
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with a handle like naughty nurse i pray you are female or you have ruined every fantasy i have!just kidding.
to much thread hijacking.
mick
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous
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Thu, 27 October 2005 10:26
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| deviant wrote on Thu, 27 October 2005 16:49 |
thinking it would be pretty sweet to stick a honda 1600cc vtec in there or even (if it would fit) a 2 litre type R engine. The 2 litre would be awesome as there is a off the shelf bolt on supercharger and LSD kit in the UK that gives it around 350BHP!!!
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for the amount of money you would spend to do that, all the custom work to fit it, custom drivetrain, plus the cost of the kit, you could probably for less drop a 3sgte in and have that push over 350BHP
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous
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Thu, 27 October 2005 10:34
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why would you bother for all the honda toys there is an equiv toyota engine that is eaiser to put in
in both 1600 and 2000 size. and the toyota options are factory forced induction as well.
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous
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Thu, 27 October 2005 12:04
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the thought of people putting honda engines into a toyota when there are so many great toyota engines out there makes me sick
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous
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Thu, 27 October 2005 21:55
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Why not?
It's a chunk of steel and alloy. Does it really matter who built it?
I keep looking at a 13B myself....
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Thu, 27 October 2005 22:14
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well if for nothing else that there are a list of perfectly good toyota engines that fit in, and do so mcuh eaiser then other manufacturers... and with the exception of the rotaries a piston engine is a piston engine.the honda 1600 enignes are a bucket of fun.. but so are 4age enignes.
for the time/effort/money youd go putting a b16a in there you could put the effort into the 4a and itdbe a better setup.
same story if you wanted to put a 4a into a civic
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous
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Fri, 28 October 2005 00:19
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final straw. ive given up on sports cars and ive bought something that is simple and will go forever.
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous
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Fri, 28 October 2005 00:51
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Does that model Corona have the holden starfire engine ?????
they are poooooooooooooooo !!!!!!!!
I had a 75 RT104 Corona....get the 18RG in there 
red is faster...what was the damage ??
Prepare yourself for major understeer and tyre roll 
With some 14 x 7 and 225 60 they grip pretty well and put on a masssssiv rear bar and chop the springs thet get some new dampers then..........hahahahahahaahahahahaha.....nah just get a bowls hat and be done with it
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous
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Fri, 28 October 2005 03:14
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you wouldnt need custom transmission to fit a honda engine into an MR2, you would carry the engine and transmision over complete and would sit in the same orientation as it des in the car as it would whatever FWD donor you used.
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Fri, 28 October 2005 03:30
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yeah but custom mounts would be required. and possibly custom mouting points onto the chasis. custom drive shafts. possible issues with clearance.. etc etc.
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous
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Fri, 28 October 2005 03:55
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It's an old car, if it was worthwhile doing, it almost certainly would have been done. Someone has even put jet turbines on one!
I would really like to see a rotary powered one in the flesh though, if I were to do another silly conversion, I think that'd be it.
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous
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Fri, 28 October 2005 04:01
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80 pages. phew! lot to look through! so could someone PM me with options for circuit setup for suspension. Also, what costs are involved to convert an N/A to supercharged? Do u buy a half cut, or the components. Im guessing a hlf cut would be difficult to find.
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous
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Fri, 28 October 2005 04:12
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for ease of searching ive created a pdf of the entire thread. pm me if you are interested and you can d/l a copy.. this goes for anyone else too
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous
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Fri, 28 October 2005 08:09
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Hey toof i saw your new car the other day. I think it was on Stewart ave in Hamilton? Or was it somewhere else.
I was thinking bout buying it for my gf!!
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous
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Fri, 28 October 2005 08:31
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ironically yeah it was on stuart ave.... your kidding me did you go look at it on thursday ?!??! the guy said there was another couple that looked at it just before i did.
its now parked out front.
and dont worry im not giving up on the mr'2 and nor is erin it is so erin has something to take to cobar that isnt quite as fragile or rare as the mr2. additionally it means we will have a cheap run around.
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous
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Fri, 28 October 2005 08:49
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In response to the Honda engine in an AW11, I have seen some pics on the carpron site of an AW11 with a H22a in it. I don't know about using the Honda gearbox though. you need to be able to change the gears somehow and I thought they were rod shift. With the Toyota boxes it is fairly easy to move the shift mechanism from the back of the box to the front, I feel it would be a little different with the Honda.
If you really wanted to put an engine from someone other than Toyota in an AW11 I'd be looking at a 4G63 or an NSX 3.2 V6.
Honestly though the 3S swap isn't that hard and believe me it makes an AW11 fairly move along.
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous
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Sat, 29 October 2005 02:03
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haha, we should all move our convos across to the new forums, the 162 boys there have half a page bragging about how they are wooping our arses 
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous
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Sat, 29 October 2005 04:38
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These fags must die, this must not continue for much longer
Taken from toymods.net.au
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The AW11 thread is back in its rightful place. I guess the AW11 popularity was just a fad afterall.
ST162 dedicated thread, the original and the best.
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yeah screw the aw11 thread, lol,
but i bet when the old toymods is locked and archived for viewing, that they will try and take the title on the new toymods, lets try and not get beaten second time around hey!
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GET YOUR ASSESS OVER THERE AND POST SOMETHING. DO IT NNOOWWW!
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous
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Mon, 31 October 2005 06:26
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Ok so me asking bout putting Honda engines in an AW11 was just purely out of interest...now im gonna actually ask a real question!!
I think ive got the list of bits im planning on decided which concentrates on handling and braking more than huge power thing is though I have read around that there arent many bolt on goodies available off the shelf for the AW11 is this true?
Can anyone give me an idea of what is out there and some rough price ranges?
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous
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Mon, 31 October 2005 06:57
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if you use your head there are pleanty of stuff you can adapt to fit the aw11 if you went back through this thread you would surley have noticed.
Braking
Stock 87-89 n/a and gze brakes are very good for anything up to about 140kw atw and there is a decent selection of aftermarket pads for them. If you want more you can bolt on gt4 group a twin piston calipers to the existing hubs and discs.
If you want a bigger disc and caliper you can adapt the st185 non group a gt4 single piston calipers and discs which are much bigger but require 15" or larger rims with appropriate offset.
As for handling stock they are quite good a good wheel alaignment will do wonders as you can adjust camber/caster and toe from the factory.
There are many urethane bush kits for the aw11 the best one that comes to mind is the high and tight kit available through twosrus.com infact there is alot of off the shelf parts available from them.
Quite a few people make springs and shocks for the aw11 and many susspension companies will make up custom coilovers at cometetive prices.
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous
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Mon, 31 October 2005 07:04
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thats just wwhat i wanted to hear, thank you very much!!! Onwards with the saving my pennies!!
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous
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Mon, 31 October 2005 08:50
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| Joshstix wrote on Fri, 28 October 2005 18:49 |
In response to the Honda engine in an AW11, I have seen some pics on the carpron site of an AW11 with a H22a in it. I don't know about using the Honda gearbox though. you need to be able to change the gears somehow and I thought they were rod shift. With the Toyota boxes it is fairly easy to move the shift mechanism from the back of the box to the front, I feel it would be a little different with the Honda.
If you really wanted to put an engine from someone other than Toyota in an AW11 I'd be looking at a 4G63 or an NSX 3.2 V6.
Honestly though the 3S swap isn't that hard and believe me it makes an AW11 fairly move along.
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Josh, how is the tuning coming along ?
As ben said a 13B would be good but how about a 20BT !!!!!
ahhhhhhhhjust dreaming....bit sacreligious tho.
OK got some pics of the crown have a look at the classifieds section if you want more but heres a couple just to get you interested.
only prob is getting it out of the garage...anyone want to lend me a hand one night this week see if we can get some life in the old girl !!!!! i will supply all tools, food and drink, cmon all you bush mechanics !!!!!! the car is in Brighton anyone live near by able to help ??
 
What do you think josh, could i turn it into a 2 door ??????
i have to have it out by the end of next week or it goes to the scrap heap in the sky
BTW what happened with your pensioner car 4agte ??????
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous
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Mon, 31 October 2005 09:00
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if it wasnt exam time id help you get her going for sure.
that roll bar... it wiould be good for LHD... youd neeed to get them to whip one up on RHD format.. although im sure they could do it without too much stress..
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous
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Mon, 31 October 2005 09:03
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hahah yeah true didnt think about that woops but yeah im sure woulnt take too much
as for the granny car still discussing it with my old man i was originally not going to go thru with it as i am going overseas but having to ask my sister if i can drive her car all the time is giving me and more to the point her the shits so its on the cards again
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous
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Mon, 31 October 2005 09:07
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ive got a nice corona ill sell you.. xt130 $2000 lots of rego.. has a tractor motor in it. drives like a four doord tractor.
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous
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Mon, 31 October 2005 09:08
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oh and do you still have that spare supercharger so i can make up a jig for the new pulley setup..
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous
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Mon, 31 October 2005 09:23
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| toof wrote on Mon, 31 October 2005 20:07 |
ive got a nice corona ill sell you.. xt130 $2000 lots of rego.. has a tractor motor in it. drives like a four doord tractor.
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thanks for the offer and good luck with all your exams
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous
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Mon, 31 October 2005 10:10
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ok im pissed off now... the smoke alarm was beeping like it had low battery... so i went out and got a new battery just then... and its still beeping !!!
AR|RGH
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous
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Mon, 31 October 2005 11:39
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| toof wrote on Mon, 31 October 2005 20:08 |
oh and do you still have that spare supercharger so i can make up a jig for the new pulley setup..
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indeed still here in my garage taking up space
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November 2004
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous
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Mon, 31 October 2005 13:03
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As you know Scott, I'm only a stones throw away, but I'm on a deadline of next Wednesday to get my own little beasty running. I'd probably be able to lend a brief hand on either friday night or over the weekend sometime.
When was the last time it was running?
ie, is it just going to need its spark plugs cleaned, a battery and a squirt of 'start ya b@stard' down the throat of the carby, or is it a possibility that the engine's knackered?
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August 2005
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous
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Tue, 01 November 2005 01:21
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2nd one looks great. 15x7, 28mm offset... perfect replacement for the current wheels!
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous
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Tue, 01 November 2005 01:50
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| MY Racing 221 wrote on Tue, 01 November 2005 12:21 |
2nd one looks great. 15x7, 28mm offset... perfect replacement for the current wheels!
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Yep i thought the same
But i also thought the 16x7.5 and 17x8 would be even better 
Where did you get the offsets from i could not see them ??????
what were the offsets on the larger wheels ??? also did you note if they did them in 4 x 100 ????
also looking at a post on the Kiwi cars man they are cheap dare i ask what you got the EVO for and what will the damage be to get it on the road over here ??
Davedave, thanks for the offer i will do some preliminary work on Wednesday arvo and try to get it started Friday night....hopefully
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous
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Tue, 01 November 2005 02:31
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| GUN METAL 87 SC wrote on Tue, 01 November 2005 14:50 |
| MY Racing 221 wrote on Tue, 01 November 2005 12:21 |
2nd one looks great. 15x7, 28mm offset... perfect replacement for the current wheels!
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Yep i thought the same
But i also thought the 16x7.5 and 17x8 would be even better
Where did you get the offsets from i could not see them ??????
what were the offsets on the larger wheels ??? also did you note if they did them in 4 x 100 ????
also looking at a post on the Kiwi cars man they are cheap dare i ask what you got the EVO for and what will the damage be to get it on the road over here ??
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Didn't actually see the offsets there anywhere... just picked our favourite! Don't think they would make them in a 4 stud pattern anyway, let alone 4 x 100.
Kiwi cars are quite cheap, particularly 2nd hand market. I picked up the EVO for less than $30k AU. Costs to get back are approximately:
Import approval - couple hundred.
Shipping - $3000 containerised.
Customs duty - 10% of the value of the car (purchase price)
GST - 10% of value PLUS customs duty
Couple of little compliance issues - few hundred
Any quarantine costs - have been told up to $1000.
THEN rego, insurance etc... expecting to need a tracking alarm for insurance. It goes on.
As you can see (you do the maths;)) it's not a cheap exercise. BUT, I will have a car that's pretty unique back home, that I know is a good car and will respond very well to some carefully chosen modifications! And still be ahead of what the same car would cost me in OZ.
Having said that, I was very tempted to sell the VII over here and buy a IX when I get back... but decided to wait until the X comes out...
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous
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Tue, 01 November 2005 04:27
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im getting my exhaust manifold and dump pipe ceramic coated/sand blasted but im having trouble finding a place to do it. Ive tried contacting competition coatings but their phone goes to an answering machine (very unprofessional imho) and ive done a few searches and still im having trouble finding places.
anyone know of any???
Also if people have had theirs coated how much did you pay???
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous
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Tue, 01 November 2005 04:29
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thats a very nice power curve
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous
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Tue, 01 November 2005 04:31
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| 4agte wrote on Tue, 01 November 2005 15:29 |
thats a very nice power curve
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It's not bad for 10psi boost.
We'll see what it does with 20 odd
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous
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Tue, 01 November 2005 04:35
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The back of the envelope maths for a perfect world situation says
((14+20) / (14+10)) * 203 = 287
So I'm reckoning about 270
bloody hell
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous
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Wed, 02 November 2005 06:30
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i think this may be a tad too extreme for a street setup that i have planned.
I think there is way too much body removed.
Does anyone know what type of engineering rules would be with cutting holes in the floorpan??
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous
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Wed, 02 November 2005 09:55
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous
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Wed, 02 November 2005 11:58
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| Joshstix wrote on Fri, 28 October 2005 18:49 |
If you really wanted to put an engine from someone other than Toyota in an AW11 I'd be looking at a 4G63 or an NSX 3.2 V6.
Honestly though the 3S swap isn't that hard and believe me it makes an AW11 fairly move along.
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Even if u follow the steps of Ben scigelic (i know i spelt it wrong) he managed to get a massive amount of power out of his 4agte, dont write that 4ag off just yet
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous
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Wed, 02 November 2005 19:28
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| feral4mr2 wrote on Wed, 02 November 2005 20:55 |
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I was wondering why they were mounted in there backwards, haha, honderrr engines 
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous
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Wed, 02 November 2005 19:44
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| mighty_boy wrote on Wed, 02 November 2005 22:58 |
| Joshstix wrote on Fri, 28 October 2005 18:49 |
If you really wanted to put an engine from someone other than Toyota in an AW11 I'd be looking at a 4G63 or an NSX 3.2 V6.
Honestly though the 3S swap isn't that hard and believe me it makes an AW11 fairly move along.
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Even if u follow the steps of Ben scigelic (i know i spelt it wrong) he managed to get a massive amount of power out of his 4agte, dont write that 4ag off just yet
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I didn't take that as Josh writing off the 4AG, I didn't even take that as Josh claiming the 3S is better than the 4AG. I thought he was just commenting on the performance of the 3S...
And hopefully I'll be able to comment on it properly on the weekend. My parts are now coated and ready to be bolted back on and I think I have solved the problems I was having. Booked in for emissions and engineering on Wednesday, so let the rush to the finish begin
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous
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Wed, 02 November 2005 21:25
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| 4agte wrote on Wed, 02 November 2005 17:30 |
i think this may be a tad too extreme for a street setup that i have planned.
I think there is way too much body removed.
Does anyone know what type of engineering rules would be with cutting holes in the floorpan??
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Well that certainly is a novel idea !!!!.
Obviously you are only interested in the intercooler location NOT the air intake or exhaust location....not to mention the turbo location !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Speak to the engineer but i dont reckon it would be a problem just so long as it was suitably reinforced.
but for my money the location is crap anyway. Unless there is going to be a huge amount of ducting on and offf the IC to get decent airflow over the IC its not going to reject much heat.
I reckon it would have been better on the back of the roof with like a WRX scoop on the top, better airflow and shorter IC pipes
It is a pretty extreem install....track only application...love the exhaust exit point....be nice and loud especially it it was left hand drive.....got any other pics ?????
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