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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
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Tue, 23 August 2005 02:06
 
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| KYOTO wrote on Tue, 23 August 2005 00:17 |
When they go its generally the synchros that wear first which then leads to teeth chipping and shearing off. You have to be either flat shifting or have a clapped out one to start with to destroy one though.
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That's how my gear box went.. Synchros wore out, then after that everything starts falling apart. At one stage it got to where I couldn't get the stick out of third, or into fourth.
So I had to pretty much red line 2nd then jump to 5th. Memories 
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Colac, Victoria
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May 2002
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
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Tue, 23 August 2005 02:44
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Interesting curve troy - is yours still running the ct26 stock like mine ?
we basically have the same mods by the sounds of things - and near identical power outputs 
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
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Tue, 23 August 2005 02:53
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| 1gt48u wrote on Tue, 23 August 2005 11:33 |
custom manifold, tial external wastegate, custom multi-coil
setup, and bigger front brakes.
It needs a retune as well
cheers 
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So nothing major 
What turbo will you be using?
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Vic
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April 2004
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
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Tue, 23 August 2005 03:54
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just about to take the car off the road to do it all then
thats it the project is finished
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Somehow i don't believe you 
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newcastle
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
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Tue, 23 August 2005 04:40
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stu,
still using the ct26 - its going strong
puffy,
whatever turbo the wife lets me afford 
kyoto,
married, 2 kids, and a german sheppard. The wife
said finish it
cheers
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Newcastle
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June 2004
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
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Tue, 23 August 2005 06:10
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hehe damn women
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Newcastle
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June 2004
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
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Tue, 23 August 2005 06:12
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Hey guys is there any sort of trick to gettin the fuel filter out? I had a small go at it on the weekend and it was near impossible to get to any of the nuts  any pointers would be much appreciated
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Colac, Victoria
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May 2002
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
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Tue, 23 August 2005 07:02
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there you go then - both troy and i have achieved 170 + awkw from the stock Aus spec ct26
Sorta pleasing that mines not the only one doing it
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Bulleen, Melbourne
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June 2002
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
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Tue, 23 August 2005 07:55
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| WantaTurbo wrote on Tue, 23 August 2005 16:12 |
Hey guys is there any sort of trick to gettin the fuel filter out? I had a small go at it on the weekend and it was near impossible to get to any of the nuts any pointers would be much appreciated
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It is indeed a bitch! Pull out your charcoal canister first, it will give you heaps more space. Then you should be able to attack the bolts. If you aren't a complete tool like I am, you'll realise that there is a nut head type thing on the filter so you can use a spanner to hold it still while you undo the lines
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Newcastle
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June 2004
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
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Tue, 23 August 2005 11:56
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Thanx thats what i was gonna do but even gettin to the bolt for it was lookin hard enough!! damn air con lines were in the way. But i didn't have a very long attempt so it prob just needs some fiddling and patience
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Melbourne
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February 2005
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
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Tue, 23 August 2005 14:12
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hi, just a query..
why dont we have a GT4 owners club in oz?
not enough interest? not enough owners? hmm.
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Melbourne
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February 2005
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
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Tue, 23 August 2005 15:34
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There is a celica club, that covers the GT4's pretty much. Although I have noticed that it is mainly older models TA22's Etc.
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melbourne
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November 2003
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Bulleen, Melbourne
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June 2002
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
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Thu, 25 August 2005 13:19
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She's up for sale guys 
I can't possibly find the time to give her the attention she needs now.
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I Supported Toymods
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Sydney
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December 2002
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
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Thu, 25 August 2005 13:28
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| tooch wrote on Thu, 25 August 2005 23:19 |
She's up for sale guys
I can't possibly find the time to give her the attention she needs now.
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Nooooo!
Classique... want to go halves?
I have a spare engine, turbo, gearbox... actually shit I've got almost a whole spare car sitting in my garage already!
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
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Thu, 25 August 2005 15:09
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That really blows Tooch. Oh well. Make sure the lucky sod you sell it to joins the board.
Meanwhile im entertaining the idea of rims, a PFC, TEINs, or a triple guage cluster. Have money, but logic is overriding impulse at this juncture!
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Brisbane
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August 2005
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
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Thu, 25 August 2005 15:24
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Hey all,
Get my car back tomorrow. Its been at the mechanic since wednesday getting a 3 inch exaust system fitted. Long time to wait for an exaust. I can't wait to see how much extra grunt it has from stock. Should make a decent change I think.
Anyway will let u guys know how it goes
Cheers
Andrew
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Bulleen, Melbourne
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
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Thu, 25 August 2005 22:22
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If i could find a rebuilt, or at least low kms 3SGTE in Victoria in the next few days, I would probably keep her. I just don't really have the time to muck around chasing up rebuilds at the moment, its more the problem of not having a spare car!
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I Supported Toymods
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
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Thu, 25 August 2005 23:11
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Tooch I can help you out with most of the parts you would ever need... I don't have an assembled Gen2 spare but I do have a partially disassembled Gen2 that can be fairly easily fixed... in fact I could probably reassemble it pretty quick if needed.
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I Supported Toymods
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
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Thu, 25 August 2005 23:13
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I can do a straight swap with you too Tooch if you don't have the cash for a Gen2 atm.
I also have ST205 cams, pistons etc. if you wanted to do a bit of an upgrade at the same time
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Colac, Victoria
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May 2002
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
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Fri, 26 August 2005 02:14
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listen to teh toobs !
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Canberra
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August 2003
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
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Fri, 26 August 2005 02:18
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| tooch wrote on Thu, 25 August 2005 23:19 |
She's up for sale guys
I can't possibly find the time to give her the attention she needs now.
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How much?
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I Supported Toymods
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
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Fri, 26 August 2005 02:51
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Its listed in the for sale section dude... 10k or nearest offer.
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Brisbane
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
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Fri, 26 August 2005 03:13
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Just got my car back with the new exaust sounds very nice and its a very decent job on the exaust too. nice big heatwraped dump. just need to get a canon eventually.
next mod will be air filter then up the boost to 10 pound and I think I will leave it there don't want to go pushing it to much other wise I will start breaking things.
Why are u selling your GT4? tooch is something wrong with it?
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Bulleen, Melbourne
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
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Fri, 26 August 2005 08:13
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Toobs: You have PM
da foles: Engine is sick, blowing a heap of smoke. Basically, I don't think I have time to rebuild it at the moment, but people on here are being extremely helpful with their offers, so all may be good
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
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Fri, 26 August 2005 12:52
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Just curious tooch
is your engine stock? has it had a rebuild before what kind of boost have u been running through it and how many k's just want to see how much life my engine has left in it
cheers
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Bulleen, Melbourne
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June 2002
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
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Fri, 26 August 2005 12:59
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Stock, 212,xxx km's, not boosted, not rebuilt (as far as I know )
Toobs has told me some things to test out, which I'll do on the weekend, may not be rings...
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Vic
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
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Fri, 26 August 2005 18:49
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Tooch honestly, your either selling your car short or ripping yourself off. My opionion would be to get a good cross section of advice, evaulate your options and what you really want to do, then make a choice.
The way things are going it looks like youre going to come off second best. For the money you stand to lose by selling it you could invest it back into the car and get to keep it. FFS, a Grp A for circa 10K. That's almost insulting to the rest of GT4 owners, thats almost what a decent 165 goes for, or even an AVERAGE 185, but not a Grp A FFS (no offence)...
Talk to Matty from Toyospares. He will have some wise words for you.
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
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Fri, 26 August 2005 18:51
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PS: may be worth rocking down to the Dyno Day at Joes this morning. He might be able to offer you a professional opinion.
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Bulleen, Melbourne
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
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Sat, 27 August 2005 02:14
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Ok guys, she is no longer for sale. My anger (and drunkenness ) have subsided and I'm now weighing up the options. I am going to check some things out when I get home today, as Toobs has given me some reasons to believe it may be the turbo that's shagged. I'll let you know how I go.
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Bulleen, Melbourne
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
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Sat, 27 August 2005 05:00
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My findings so far:
-The turbo has a fair bit of play from side to side, i.e. the blades probably could scrape the housing.
-There is little to no oil in the intercooler, or the turbo exit.
-The inside of the intake pipe, where the PCV line joins up, is pretty slick with oil.
-If I rev the car with the pcv hose off, some light mist/smoke comes out, this is while the exhaust is smoking a fair bit.
The car also has a massive oil leak which I believe could be the cam cover seals, I know they were leaking but I think they have just gotten a lot worse, there is oil all over the front (pulley side) and back (intake manifold) sides of the engine. I don't believe this has anything to do with the current smoke problem.
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Dubbo
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April 2005
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
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Sat, 27 August 2005 13:52
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Hey guys,
Just curious about the legalities of aftermarket ECU's? cause that is sorta the next step for me on the mod route and can't seem to find an answer as to whether they are legal or not!
Also i have heard of a few 185s with retuned factory ecu's...does anyone know where this is done and any comments on how good/bad it is??
Regards Nathan
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I Supported Toymods
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
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Sat, 27 August 2005 14:29
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I think you will find most people that get their factory ECU's chipped do it to avoid problems with the law.
It is my understanding that you can only get an aftermarket programmable ECU engineered if it can (and is) locked and it passes the pollution test.
Have a chat to an engineer though because I'm sure there are many more factors involved regarding the sensors and operation of the ECU which need to be addressed.
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Vic
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
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Sat, 27 August 2005 15:59
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Roundy - ATS in the US are able to do this. There is also some G-Force replcement chip but these are both not the best. Anything is legal if you have it engineered and within reason most things are insurable with the right policy.
Tooch...fuckin' aye man!
Worst case scenario you either re-build or just get a replacement front cut. For the price you were considering letting No. 53 go for it makes financial sense to do this than incur the loss (depending on how much u paid of course). Speak to a professional before you make the final decision though.
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Melbourne
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February 2005
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
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Sat, 27 August 2005 16:45
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Hey,
Does anybody know what the load rating has to be for tyres for an ST185? I am wanting to get tyres priced, but havn't got the car yet.
Also what types of tyres/wheels does everydy haveon their st185's?
Just want to get an idea if I should get some bigger rims rather than stockies.
BTW How do I tell if a blow off valve is vented or not?
I'm guessing it has something to do with the pssst noise, and maybe if the thing has that trumpet looking release thing (highly technical I know) The one on the car i'm looking at has a small hose that seems to feed back somewhere, could be the intake but i'm not sure. It also has been welded onto the intercooler. How much of a pain will this be to remove?
Thanks
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Bulleen, Melbourne
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June 2002
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
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Sat, 27 August 2005 23:47
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Esk: BOV's always have a small vacuum line that connects usually around the intake manifold, if it has a trumpet, more than likely its an atmospheric venting BOV. If it also has another hose, usually on the opposite side to the trumpet, then its probably a hybrid, i.e. half plum back.
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Melbourne
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February 2005
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
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Sun, 28 August 2005 00:46
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I thought so.
How do I remove the thing?
Or sould I get a plumback oneand replace it?
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Bulleen, Melbourne
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June 2002
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
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Sun, 28 August 2005 12:05
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Well it seems I unintentionally fixed the problem some how today! In amongst pulling shit apart to try and gain some kind of insight into what was wrong, I was changing all the pain in the arse things like cam cover gasket, spark plugs, leads, and while I had the throttle body and everything off, I gave it all a good clean with throttle body cleaner. Scrubbed off a lot of carbon and crap, cleaned out the PCV's, the little EGR port, and sprayed a whole heap of the stuff into the intake manifold, as it was full of carbon.
After starting the car and almost asphyxiating from the toxic smoke that the throttle body cleaner causes, and the small amount of oil that still burned off, I took the car for a really good 15-20 minute full boost thrash. And there was no more smoke! Even letting it sit idle for a while after that, and giving it revs every now and then, still nothing.
So let's just see if it lasts!
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Brisbane
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September 2004
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
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Sun, 28 August 2005 13:41
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Glad to hear that man, See how easily it could be fixed..You would of been spewin if you found out that after your sold her!!
But either way, Start saving for a engine rebuild and a brand new spankin turbo replacement, no doubt you will need it sooner than later..
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Brisbane
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September 2004
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
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Sun, 28 August 2005 13:50
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Well today we had a bit of a little cruise around Samford valley, I took some pics, they are towards the end of the page:
http://www.ozcelica.com/mainforum/index.php?showto pic=2092&st=120
Tell me what you guys think..
The white GT4 is mine, The black is da_foles and the raven black 7th gen is Ozzys.
Cheers
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
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Sun, 28 August 2005 14:07
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
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Sun, 28 August 2005 23:43
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| esk34 wrote on Sun, 28 August 2005 02:45 |
Hey,
Does anybody know what the load rating has to be for tyres for an ST185? I am wanting to get tyres priced, but havn't got the car yet.
Also what types of tyres/wheels does everydy haveon their st185's?
Just want to get an idea if I should get some bigger rims rather than stockies.
BTW How do I tell if a blow off valve is vented or not?
I'm guessing it has something to do with the pssst noise, and maybe if the thing has that trumpet looking release thing (highly technical I know) The one on the car i'm looking at has a small hose that seems to feed back somewhere, could be the intake but i'm not sure. It also has been welded onto the intercooler. How much of a pain will this be to remove?
Thanks
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Hey mate not sure about the load rating for the tyres but price wise standard gt4 tyres will be around 100 a tyre thats for 205/55/R15 and about 180-200 for tyres for 215/40/R17 so basically u want pretty wheels prepare to pay the price for tyres
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Newcastle
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June 2004
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
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Mon, 29 August 2005 00:01
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Very nice cruise pics guys! Hey da_foles how much performance differences u notice with dump pipe and exhuast system? u get highflow cat too? I will be doin this eventually so just food for thought for me hehe
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Epping, Sydney
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April 2003
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
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Mon, 29 August 2005 00:22
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hey guys, sorry if this is a total n00b question.
Is the water cooling on the turbo on the Group-As disconnected from the factory?
On the rally car in Tassie the ports are there, just blanked off, & the water lines have nipples fitted but blanked too! Looks factory.
weird
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
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Mon, 29 August 2005 00:37
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When you say Group A Im thinking ST185. The only thing that is deactivate from factory are the water sprays for the heat exchanger on the 185's and the antilag on the group a 205's.
All turbo water lines should be connected. I have a feeling as this was a rally car you may of been looking at the heater lines. rally cars normally remove the heater components for weight reduction.
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April 2005
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
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Mon, 29 August 2005 01:12
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Hey guys, quick question
does anyone know of a place to get driveshafts for our cars (specially the front left) cause so far the only things i have tunred up is send it away to reco, and a week off the road doesn't really suit me atm.
Regards Nathan
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I Supported Toymods
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
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Mon, 29 August 2005 02:47
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The load rating on the ST185 tyres from factory are 88 but good bloody luck finding 88 load rating if you've got 17x7" rims... 87 is as good as you get!
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Brisbane
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August 2005
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
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Mon, 29 August 2005 02:56
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hey mate about the dump. Yes I have felt a difference in the power. I can now hear the turbo spool sounds nice on boost. I did get a hiflow cat as well. I know once I install a pod filter and try do the straight intake mod i should get a heap more power out of this exaust it should be pretty decent.
But yeah very worthwhile mod.
Andrew
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melbourne
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November 2003
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
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Mon, 29 August 2005 04:10
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hey guys, is any1 up for a gt4 cruise in melbourne soon? would be awsome having a bunch of gt4's cruising round the streets, get some photos, have a bite to eat, check out each others rides and meet the drivers.
i know this should be in cruise section for victoria, but i wana get all the gt4 drivers attention!!!
how bout september 10th after the bennica dyno day?
if we have interest we will start a thread in the cruise section so we dont clog our own thread up.
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
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Mon, 29 August 2005 04:23
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When you say Group A Im thinking ST185. The only thing that is deactivate from factory are the water sprays for the heat exchanger on the 185's and the antilag on the group a 205's.
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205WRCs also had a water injection feed to the manifold via a "cold start injector" but this was also disconnected, along with the radiator spray and bang bang system. The pinouts are on the 205 ECU for all this stuff so in theory all you need is some switches and water feeds.
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
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Mon, 29 August 2005 05:48
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| Puffy wrote on Mon, 29 August 2005 10:37 |
When you say Group A Im thinking ST185. The only thing that is deactivate from factory are the water sprays for the heat exchanger on the 185's and the antilag on the group a 205's.
All turbo water lines should be connected. I have a feeling as this was a rally car you may of been looking at the heater lines. rally cars normally remove the heater components for weight reduction.
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hey man they are definitely not the heater ports.
Almost curtain that the 2 blocked nipples are in the supply & return line to the intercooler! If that's right, I would take a guess that they have been disconnected so that the intercooler water temperature would be lower without the added heat from the turbo. Reduced turbo life would be what's sacrificed. I would probably go for turbo life over the few extra kw gained with the temp difference though? We could also setup a timer on the intercooler waterpump so that it keeps running after shutting the motor off to cool the turbo down & stop heat soak into the bearings.
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Bulleen, Melbourne
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June 2002
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
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Mon, 29 August 2005 08:00
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Anyone know what common oil leaks occur on the 3SGTE? I've got a pretty bad one from I think the firewall side of my engine. Kinda drips all down the engine and all over the place!
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Epping, Sydney
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
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Mon, 29 August 2005 08:05
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not a driveshaft seal?
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Bulleen, Melbourne
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
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Mon, 29 August 2005 09:33
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Nah it looks more like engine oil..although it is all over the driveshaft area! I should check my gearbox oil level too. But pretty certain its engine oil
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Bulleen, Melbourne
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Melbourne
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February 2005
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
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Mon, 29 August 2005 11:45
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f*ck i am tempted.
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Colac, Victoria
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
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Mon, 29 August 2005 12:02
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one problem - they are only 15's
makes brake upgrades a bit limited
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Bulleen, Melbourne
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June 2002
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
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Mon, 29 August 2005 12:15
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I would probably buy them if they were 17's.
On another note, (which has probably been answered already), if I bought an Aussie dump pipe to replace the stupid stock one + cat, would my system be legal with only 1 cat? I have a 3" exhaust currently, which also has 3" piping between the 2 stock cats, I would probably replace the 2nd cat with a high flow.
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Melbourne
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February 2005
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Re: GT4 owners dedicated thread
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Mon, 29 August 2005 12:17
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lol yeah i was wondering about that cat issue too.
mine is being fitted on wednesday.
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