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now 1JZ turbo AE71 panelvan -- updated 29/11 (no 56k) Fri, 25 March 2005 05:49 Go to next message
**EDIT... 4AGTE lives here no more. See next page for an idea of the new plan Cool

This engine/turbo combination had been fitted to my previous car (TE72) since December 2002, but has now found its way into a lighter corolla panelvan, with a few changes.

Car:

1984 AE71 Corolla panelvan, originally fitted with 4AC & 4 speed T40

Engine:

-1989 4AGZE 1.6L 16 valve
-Bigport 4AGE head
mild port cleanup, recut valve seats
-Performance Springs heavy duty valve spring set
-Wade 267 degree billet cams
-8.9:1 compression
-ARP head stud kit -RWD 4AGE inlet manifold
-1.25" steampipe turbo manifold
-Garrett GT2535 turbo
-3" dump pipe & mandrel bent exhaust
-Front mounted intercooler (600*300*76), 2.5" aluminium pipework
-13BT 550cc injectors
-Haltech E6X ECU & boost controller
-pierburg lift pump, VL EFI pump, custom surge tank, 8mm lines
-custom blow off valve

Driveline:

-W55 gearbox with aftermarket bellhousing
-20V 215mm flywheel
-Custom 1025kg pressure plate
-3" one piece tailshaft
-MK2 Corona "F" series diff, not shortened
-diff centre fitted with larger bearings, custom solid pinion spacer
-Lexus IS200 Altezza type 2 torsen LSD hemisphere

Brakes, wheels & suspension:

-Front RA23 struts, 295mm vented Pajero discs (custom adapter), magna calipers, ADR approved braided stainless brake hoses, King lowered springs
-Rear standard corona drums, reset leaves (2" lower) with extra leaf each side, KYB shocks, urethane bushes throughout
-2002 Camry brake master cylinder, larger bore.
-Concept 5 16x6.5 rims (+20 offset), 205/45/16 tyres
-Custom front strut brace

Paint & interior:

-Cobra Monaco fixed back seat
-RPM 3" 5 point harness
The rest is crap. its on the never ending list!

Performance:

1/4 mile 12.57 @ 111mph (WSID) (old turbo, clutch, diff & head setup, soon to be updated)

Pics:

http://img208.exs.cx/img208/8151/image00097ru.jpg

http://img208.exs.cx/img208/985/image00142pa.jpg

http://img149.exs.cx/img149/4080/nobar4ii.jpg

http://img149.exs.cx/img149/6407/turbo3go.jpg

http://img207.exs.cx/img207/48/bayscreen7rj.jpg



[Updated on: Tue, 29 November 2005 10:34]

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Re: AE71 panelvan (another 4AGTE!) Fri, 25 March 2005 05:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
nice work dude
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Re: AE71 panelvan (another 4AGTE!) Sat, 26 March 2005 08:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
good to see the engine going into something else original!
exactly how light is this thing? looks dam nice!

oh and did you ever rack and pinionise your t-18?

[Updated on: Sat, 26 March 2005 08:51]

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Re: AE71 panelvan (another 4AGTE!) Sat, 26 March 2005 08:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
love the supercharged rockercover Very Happy gives that second look thing
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Re: AE71 panelvan (another 4AGTE!) Sun, 27 March 2005 07:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hey Jesse, it weighs 960kg as it sits now. Was obviously a fair bit lighter before the bigger driveline, brakes etc.

Never did convert the T18 to rack & pinion, just stuck with the original steering box. This car's steering feels soooo much better though.

Cheers
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Re: 4AG turbo AE71 panelvan (pics) Thu, 21 April 2005 13:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Now its time to try and make some more power out of the little 4A Very Happy

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Re: 4AG turbo AE71 panelvan **updated turbo 21/4/05** Thu, 21 April 2005 13:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
thats a nicely sized turbo. big, without being to big. will be interesting to see new power output
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Re: 4AG turbo AE71 panelvan **updated turbo 21/4/05** Thu, 21 April 2005 13:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
that a gt2535? i wanna know what its like on the 4a, as im putting one on mine right now.
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Re: 4AG turbo AE71 panelvan **updated turbo 21/4/05** Thu, 21 April 2005 14:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
According to Garrett's spec sheets, the GT2535 uses a GT35 compressor wheel (48 or 56 trim). This turbo i've got is often referred to as the GT25R, or GT2540, and uses a 48 trim TO4S comp wheel instead.

Does yours have the large 0.7 comp cover (like this one), or the 0.6?

I am also keen to see how it will go on the 4A Very Happy hopefully it won't lose too much response over the previous turbo, as it still uses a 0.64 A/R exhaust housing, although the wheel trims are bigger.

[Updated on: Thu, 21 April 2005 14:17]

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Re: 4AG turbo AE71 panelvan **updated turbo 21/4/05** Thu, 21 April 2005 14:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
yeah, it has the big .7 housing. I dont think mine will be too bad at all considering its pretty mcuh the same size as a stock r33 gtst turbo im using now.
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Re: 4AG turbo AE71 panelvan **updated turbo 21/4/05** Thu, 21 April 2005 14:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I have a GT2535 and that looks alot bigger than mine.

Nice work, very cool car Very Happy
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Re: 4AG turbo AE71 panelvan **updated turbo 21/4/05** Thu, 21 April 2005 15:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i love this car
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Re: 4AG turbo AE71 panelvan **updated turbo 21/4/05** Thu, 21 April 2005 20:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
FArken awesome.
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Re: 4AG turbo AE71 panelvan **updated turbo 21/4/05** Thu, 21 April 2005 22:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hey ROllaGTi: Its really hard to keep track of what different suppliers call each turbo, from GT25/28/25R/2535/2530/2540 and so it goes on... quite frustrating when you are trying to choose a turbo hey! Confused

How do you find the response of your GT2535? Would you have full boost by say, 3500rpm? I'm guessing yours has the compressor housing with the two bolt inlet, and 3 bolt outlet, like this?

http://img243.echo.cx/img243/228/garrettgt2535forvansb80315jr.th.jpg

[Updated on: Thu, 21 April 2005 22:19]

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Re: 4AG turbo AE71 panelvan **updated turbo 21/4/05** Fri, 22 April 2005 00:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Very nice! Smile
Will I get to see this in the flesh on the 25th Wakefield day? Cool
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Re: 4AG turbo AE71 panelvan **updated turbo 21/4/05** Fri, 22 April 2005 02:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Great work dude, keep it up. Very Happy

Love seeing the 4A's pulling quick times.
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Re: 4AG turbo AE71 panelvan **updated turbo 21/4/05** Fri, 22 April 2005 05:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Not gonna be at Wakefield Joel, unless you feel like a couple of all nighter's to change the clutch, head, front end bushes, make a new dump pipe, run the new cams in and retune? Razz
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Re: 4AG turbo AE71 panelvan **updated turbo 21/4/05** Fri, 22 April 2005 07:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
thats the same turbo im running on my rolla, fwd tho. from where i see it it is going to be a perfect match for the 4ag. still has a small(ish) rear housing but a nice big front wheel and cover to suck in loads of air Very Happy
what power did you get out of your previous setup??
mine is almost exact to yours now, same turbo, injectors aswell.
http://img251.echo.cx/img251/4161/project12s0913rj.jpg
good luck and im sure ill see ya at the track soon.
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Re: 4AG turbo AE71 panelvan **updated turbo 21/4/05** Fri, 22 April 2005 10:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Previous setup made 180rwkw (DynoDynamics) on 20psi.
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Re: 4AG turbo AE71 panelvan **updated turbo 21/4/05** Fri, 22 April 2005 23:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hey Phil thats a kick ass hairdryer you have there, be interesting to see what the new mods give as a result, the car was nice enough as it was when i saw it at easter. keep up the nice work mate
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Re: 4AG turbo AE71 panelvan **updated turbo 21/4/05** Sat, 23 April 2005 05:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
congratulations man..very nice and very unique

keep up the good work Very Happy
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Re: 4AG turbo AE71 panelvan **updated turbo 21/4/05** Sat, 23 April 2005 17:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
TE72_Turbo wrote on Fri, 22 April 2005 08:17

Hey ROllaGTi: Its really hard to keep track of what different suppliers call each turbo, from GT25/28/25R/2535/2530/2540 and so it goes on... quite frustrating when you are trying to choose a turbo hey! Confused

How do you find the response of your GT2535? Would you have full boost by say, 3500rpm? I'm guessing yours has the compressor housing with the two bolt inlet, and 3 bolt outlet, like this?

http://img243.echo.cx/img243/228/garrettgt2535forvansb80315jr.th.jpg


Full boost is pretty late about 4500-5000 (its starts spooling around 3000)

But with a strong diff and box like you having lag isnt a problem just reclutch it Very Happy
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Re: 4AG turbo AE71 panelvan **updated turbo 21/4/05** Sun, 24 April 2005 02:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
woot! Very Happy
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Re: 4AG turbo AE71 panelvan **updated turbo 21/4/05** Sun, 24 April 2005 10:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
is your engine rebuilt, or unopened??? if tis unopened and you have run 20psi and its not dead yet, im getting xited, i was only gonna go to 17psi, interesting............
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Re: 4AG turbo AE71 panelvan **updated turbo 21/4/05** Sun, 24 April 2005 10:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
sorry, just read first post again Embarassed Embarassed
was this on pulp??? and engine is still goin strong?? what is the max these things can take standard??? i know there tuff but jeeeesssss.................
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Re: 4AG turbo AE71 panelvan **updated turbo 21/4/05** Sun, 24 April 2005 12:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yeah, as you saw, bottom end is untouched, only the headgasket has been changed, not cause it failed, just because I changed to the RWD bigport head Smile

The motor has only ever run on 98 octane optimax or ultimate. Its all in the tune.... provided there's no detonation i'm sure it will take more boost. Thats the plan with the new turbo anyway!

[Updated on: Tue, 06 September 2005 12:00]

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Re: 4AG turbo AE71 panelvan **updated turbo 21/4/05** Thu, 12 May 2005 03:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
wow! that turbo is massive. how much kW you expecting to get at the wheels?
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Re: 4AG turbo AE71 panelvan **updated turbo 21/4/05** Thu, 12 May 2005 09:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Only the compressor housing is huge, its specs are not really that massive.

Any extra power over the old setup is a bonus, but it would be nice to crack 200rwkw Smile
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Re: 4AG turbo AE71 panelvan **updated turbo 21/4/05** Thu, 12 May 2005 10:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
didn't you achieve 185kW at the wheels with the old turbo. i have a feeling that most likely you would get 220kW+ at the wheels you turbo is massive compared to the old one.
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Re: 4AG turbo AE71 panelvan **updated turbo 21/4/05** Thu, 12 May 2005 11:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
180 with the old turbo.

220 would be sweet, but I won't hold my breath, just wait & see Smile
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Re: 4AG turbo AE71 panelvan **updated turbo 21/4/05** Fri, 13 May 2005 12:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked
Oh so nice!
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Re: 4AG turbo AE71 panelvan **updated turbo 21/4/05** Sun, 15 May 2005 01:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
TE72_Turbo wrote on Thu, 12 May 2005 21:40

180 with the old turbo.

220 would be sweet, but I won't hold my breath, just wait & see Smile



220 would be alright Smile
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Re: 4AG turbo AE71 panelvan **updated turbo 21/4/05** Sun, 15 May 2005 01:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Nice lookin panelvan.
Nice under the bonnet to.
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Re: 4AG turbo AE71 panelvan **updated turbo 21/4/05** Thu, 26 May 2005 04:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message


Good Job !!!!! Very Happy
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Re: 4AG turbo AE71 panelvan **updated turbo 21/4/05** Thu, 09 June 2005 01:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dude, i was looking thru JustenGT4 post on hisGT8 and saw ur posts there , then noticed u had AE71 panelvan.. then it said turbo... i was like...WOW..!i checked it out ... very nice...
if u ever wanna part wit it, drop me a pm...
oh how much this beastie cost to get as it is now..?
the reason i ask , is i got a stock one(the old 4ac is a joke..)
so i could do with a little (ok a lot) more power out of her..
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Re: 4AG turbo AE71 panelvan **updated turbo 21/4/05** Sat, 11 June 2005 12:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hey mate, had my car on the dyno today. let me tell ya, i hope you like lag Laughing my car hits boost at 4-4500rpm, before that its pretty much waiting, waiting Wink hits pretty hard tho.
my WTA cooler is not workin properly, air blocks everywhere, made 202hp on 16psi. bout 150kw. had it runnin rich still. when cooler is set up properly, and not leaking aswell it will be back on the dyno and were gonna up the boost to prob 20 psi, i will have a ice box setup for it aswell.200kw may be harder to get then i thought.
good luck mate, any updates?????
cheers,
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Re: 4AG turbo AE71 panelvan **updated turbo 21/4/05** Thu, 16 June 2005 08:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
No real updates, the car has been sitting unregistered and in parts for a couple of months now, really gotta get stuck into it sometime Confused

I am however going to use a different turbo to the GT25 pictured above, as its going back on its owner's 20V. Results should be similar though.

MrKE20: when you say 4-4500rpm, is that when it starts making boost (ie: more than zero manifold vacuum), or when it makes full boost? I can handle some lag with an 8000rpm rev limit. Cams should help it get there & still make power.
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Re: 4AG turbo AE71 panelvan **updated turbo 21/4/05** Thu, 16 June 2005 08:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i noticed that your using what looks like one of those hybrid i/c cores the ones with the cast end tanks is this correct???

I have heard alot of people baggin these things but meh i still bought what are your thoughts on it??
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Re: 4AG turbo AE71 panelvan **updated turbo 21/4/05** Sat, 18 June 2005 15:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
No complaints on the Hybrid cooler from me Smile I have seen several of them, and I must say that quality does vary greatly between them, its a bit of a lucky dip. Mine has really good quality welds compared to some i've seen.

600x300x75 sits quite nicely in the front of a KE70/AE71.
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Re: 4AG turbo AE71 panelvan **updated turbo 21/4/05** Sat, 02 July 2005 13:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Awesome car mate. Love the panelvan rear! Also sent you a pm re the cooler piping.

Eddie.
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Re: 4AG turbo AE71 panelvan **updated turbo 21/4/05** Tue, 26 July 2005 10:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
havnt looked at this post for a while, boost starts earlier, but as you would expect you can really feel it untill it goes past 10psi, which is usualy bout 4-4500rpm. starts bout 3-3500rpm. but it does help with the traction side of things as your moving pretty fast before the boost hits.
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Updated specs Tue, 26 July 2005 12:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Okay, the car's been off the road for a while now, so better update some specs:

Reconditioned bigport head with mild porting (really just a cleanup of the ports, nothing too serious), recut valve seats, Performance Springs heavier valve springs (thanks Allen, excellent toymods sponsor, cut the import brand's price by half), Wade 267 degree billet cams.

ARP head stud kit.

Larger 20v 215mm flywheel & custom 1025kg pressure plate

Rebuilt F series diff centre, machined for larger pinion bearing, custom pinion spacer (no more shitty crush tube, it was knackered Sad ) larger side bearings & Altezza type 2 torsen LSD hemisphere.

GT2535 turbo Very Happy

Soon to hit a dyno near you Cool Then its back to the track.

[Updated on: Tue, 26 July 2005 12:54]

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Re: 4AG turbo AE71 panelvan --updated specs July 05-- Tue, 26 July 2005 13:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
cant wait to see what it pulls and drives like with the gt2535. I should be getting mine back and dynoed shortly.
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Re: 4AG turbo AE71 panelvan --updated specs July 05-- Tue, 26 July 2005 23:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Did ya get the carpet yet mate? Razz
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Re: 4AG turbo AE71 panelvan --updated specs July 05-- Thu, 28 July 2005 12:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yep, but the carpet don't fit Crying or Very Sad I didn't know it was bonded to an MDF board, so I can't get it under the horizontal bar that my harness bolts to.

Gotta run the diff in unfortunately, I just wanna strap it to the dyno now & tune it so we can have some fun!
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Re: 4AG turbo AE71 panelvan --updated specs July 05-- Thu, 28 July 2005 23:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Oh shit.
Sorry that it doesn't fit mate.
Could you use the other panels?
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Re: 4AG turbo AE71 panelvan --updated specs July 05-- Thu, 28 July 2005 23:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
YOu can't modify it to fit??
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Re: 4AG turbo AE71 panelvan --updated specs July 05-- Thu, 28 July 2005 23:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
No stress, i'm not bothered about it. Don't think it can be modded without making a mess of it though.

I'll use the other panels once I get rid of the windows in the back.

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Re: 4AG turbo AE71 panelvan --updated specs July 05-- Sun, 07 August 2005 09:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anybody going to WSID off street drags this wednesday (10 August)???
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Re: 4AG turbo AE71 panelvan --updated specs July 05-- Sun, 07 August 2005 10:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
just a quick few questions, how do you find the e6k? does it use the standard 4age temp sensors, tps, ect? or are these items you have to purchace through haltech?
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Re: 4AG turbo AE71 panelvan --updated specs July 05-- Mon, 08 August 2005 00:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Haltech came with its own air & water temp senders, but I used the factory toyota TPS.

The E6K is no longer available, new models have replaced it.
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Re: 4AG turbo AE71 panelvan --updated specs July 05-- Mon, 08 August 2005 07:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
yea im looking into purchasing a second-hand one off a friend. so do you run a wasted spark set-up?
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Re: 4AG turbo AE71 panelvan --updated specs July 05-- Tue, 09 August 2005 01:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yes, factory GZE coilpacks.
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Re: 4AG turbo AE71 panelvan -- no more 4AGTE!!! Thu, 29 September 2005 12:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
What do you do when you have this:

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/9099/barebay5dm.jpg

And one of these??

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/4788/image00014hi.jpg

Very Happy Cool
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Re: 4AG turbo AE71 panelvan -- no more 4AGTE!!! Thu, 29 September 2005 12:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
you declare yourself insane and trot your merry way down to the local mental institution.
that is a 2JZGTE isnt it?
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Re: 4AG turbo AE71 panelvan -- no more 4AGTE!!! Thu, 29 September 2005 12:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
You're not the first person that's told me I should have my head checked Razz

And its "just" a baby 1JZ, can't afford a 2J, and don't really think I'll need the extra cubes! Laughing

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Phil

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Re: 4AG turbo AE71 panelvan -- no more 4AGTE!!! Thu, 29 September 2005 14:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Is it wrong for me to be thinking bad thoughts right now? Surprised
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Re: 4AG turbo AE71 panelvan -- no more 4AGTE!!! Thu, 29 September 2005 16:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
may i please hump that car!! Laughing
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Re: 4AG turbo AE71 panelvan -- no more 4AGTE!!! Fri, 30 September 2005 02:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Phil you are a nut.

What is the clearance gonna be like?

I think you may have problems with not enough belt coverage on your crank pulley. Then again because the PS and aircon is gone the load will be significantly reduced, I guess youll have to just suck it and see Smile

Also have you thought about blacking out the "C" pillar between the windows? I think it may look better like that, just my opinion but Cool
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Re: 4AG turbo AE71 panelvan -- no more 4AGTE!!! Fri, 30 September 2005 02:38 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
It will be very tight, its looking like some light modification to the firewall to make it more comfortable.

That same belt setup is used on another 1JZ conversion here in canberra, works fine, so I copied it. I dont think the alternator has enough load to slip the belt on its own.

I want to remove the windows altogether in the rear panels, they look shit Razz Its been on the "to do" list for a long time.

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