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Re: You Get The Best At Pedders
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Thu, 24 April 2003 01:26
 
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link should work now
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Re: You Get The Best At Pedders
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Thu, 24 April 2003 06:32
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Just go to http://www.fukron.au.tt/
The original link has a bunch of Hotmail baggage that needs cleaning out.
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Re: You Get The Best At Pedders
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Thu, 24 April 2003 07:09
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Can someone summarise what the link says?? dont really feel like reading it all
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Re: You Get The Best At Pedders
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Thu, 24 April 2003 07:16
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Basically the owner of the Pedders name(Ron Pedders) drove one of its franchise owners out of business!
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Re: You Get The Best At Pedders
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Thu, 24 April 2003 07:34
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Hmmm explains a fair bit about their suspension
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Re: You Get The Best At Pedders
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Thu, 24 April 2003 08:17
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Ok, i just took the time to read it, and am kinda glad i did. i WILL NOT be dealing with pedders at all.
i was quite suprised at this bit :
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The big top secret Pedders does not want anybody to know is that their shock absorbers are made by Monroe. As we all know Monroe Shocks are way cheaper than Pedders brand
shocks and are the same thing with red paint on them instead of Monroe blue!! Their front end parts are all made in Taiwan, in the cheapest factory Ron could find, re-boxed
and re-badged with the Pedders logo on it and sold for top dollar their polyurethane bushes are made by Red Ranger (Nolathane).The icing on the cake is that Pedders own Rally
cars do not utilise Pedders shocks or struts they use Bilstein!! How is that for trusting your own products!!
Pedders foam cell 4x4 shocks are the biggest load of shit on the market as they have a high failure rate especially on coil sprung vehicles like Nissan patrols. I should know,
because all we did at our O'connor store was change over 4x4 shocks under warranty!! There were alot of unhappy Pedders customers.
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Re: You Get The Best At Pedders
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Thu, 24 April 2003 08:27
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yeah... i was pretty unimpressed. All the more reason to support the small businesses out there guys!
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Re: You Get The Best At Pedders
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Thu, 24 April 2003 12:03
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this is all bull shit, friends of mine own a franchise, the guy that made is a pyschopath, he had his franchise taken off him because of the way he treated clients.
i run have run pedders for 4 years, and never had a problem. and my car gets abused every time it leaves the shed.
ring the owner of the franchise that this guy lost and ask him how his business is going, the guy that made that web page got assulted by clients because of the way he treated them.
and the guy that took over the franchise has been punched from the other guys screw ups.
any way decide for yourselves, but i stand behind my local pedders people 100% for product and service.
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Re: You Get The Best At Pedders
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Thu, 24 April 2003 13:01
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that website is destirbing
in my books there are 3 sides to every story
your side, their side and then there is the truth
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Re: You Get The Best At Pedders
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Thu, 24 April 2003 23:22
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Im sure theres a lot more to the story on both sides but as I read it, there was more than just his franchise treated the same way.....im not supporting either side but I have to say from my own experiences that pedders products and customer support have not always been my preferred choice...but again thats just my personal opinion from my own experiences..im sure that theres people who have had quite a different interaction with the company and its representatives
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Re: You Get The Best At Pedders
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Fri, 25 April 2003 01:15
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I have to agree with IRA11Y on this one i have seen pedders and monro shocks fail in a matter of weeks of install. Their customer service is not what its cracked up to be as is their workmanship. But and heres the big but there are always two sides to a story and im not renouned for having the best luck in the world.
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Re: You Get The Best At Pedders
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Fri, 25 April 2003 01:35
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ive read this website (http://www.fukron.au.tt/)and if what he has written is true i think he has totally gone the wrong way about getting the story out there i mean isnt this guy just setting himself up for a defamation case?
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Re: You Get The Best At Pedders
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Fri, 25 April 2003 01:36
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my experiencese with pedders (anonymous store):
I get my N13 pulsar hatch booked in for new tyres. I mention to the guy at the counter that i have noticed a slight knocking/wobbling coming from the car, and i think it might be my ball joints on the way out. And asked if the mechanic could check it out.
I was told it was $25 for a 12 point (or whatever) safety inspection, so i paid the $25 just to be safe.
I collect my car later that day. Salesman at the counter informed me that my steering rack was completely rooted, and required replacement at $280- for the rack, plus 1.5 hours labour. And that this was the problem, nothing else. I even asked the mechanic who worked on the car on the way out. He was adament that the only problem i had was the steering rack, and that's what was causing the knocking noises. He also said it would be ok for me to drive to brisbane with it like that (holiday coming up)
To say i was dubious would be an understatement. So i took the car a week later to a small family mechanic's business in blacktown "Fletcher's Automotive". WIthin 15 minutes the owner diagnosed that the right hand tie rod end was on the way out, and that ALSO the right hand ball joint was busted. He said that it would be cheaper to get a reco'd steering rack than replace the tie rod (nissan made it difficult to replace just the ends) at $290 fitted, and the ball joint at $80 fitted. I agreed, left the car with them, since they seriously recommended getting it all fixed before leaving for QLD.
In the end it was BOTH ball joints and the steering rack (damn weak N13)...... well done pedders!
I was shown by the mechanic the busted parts after the job was done - and i can't see how a trained mechanic could've NOT noticed them!
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Re: You Get The Best At Pedders
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Fri, 25 April 2003 03:51
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ive read this website (http://www.fukron.au.tt/)and if what he has written is true i think he has totally gone the wrong way about getting the story out there i mean isnt this guy just setting himself up for a defamation case?
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Whats to lose when you have lost everything?
One of my friends is a law student\para legal for one of Brisbanes better law firms(will not mention names) and they deal with the Law Firm mentioned, his reaction to them was "Bunch of weasily pricks"
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Re: You Get The Best At Pedders
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Fri, 25 April 2003 16:20
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Alright, I guess it's time to bring out the Pedders stories then.
A mate of mine took his AE82 twincam into a local pedders, & asked for some sports ryders springs & shocks. No worries, they said, come back at the end of the day.
He got back, the car was lower, not as much as he wanted but it was better, & it was all looking good. At this time they told him it would take about 1 month for the springs to completely settle!  First worry.
So anyway, he drives it home, & it's handling a bit better, but it scrubs out real hard round corners. And I mean, real hard! So he gets underneath to check out where it's scrubbing, & suss the suspension, & what sort of shocks are they?
Pedders Comfort Gas shocks. 
So he took it back to Pedders on his next day off, & asked them what the deal was, & was told, oh, we don't make sports ryders for your car, so we just put the comfort gas ones in. & we don't have your old suspension any more. But we can get you a set of konis for another $400.
As the people in stories like this do, my mate went ahead & dished out even more cash for the konis. But then he needed different struts, he had to use AE92 ones I think?
So it's put on hold for a month, while these "hard to find struts" are being sent from WA or somewhere like that. Eventually they come, & my mate takes his car up to get fixed, & gets told sorry, we've lost them!
Bring your car back tomorrow, we'll have another set by then!
So the struts went from being something that took 1 month to get to being available in a day. About 2 weeks later we were at a wreckers who had about 5 sets.
Finally he got the konis put in, which made his car alot better, but it still scrubs out a bit, & doesn't handle as well as it should for the money spent on it.
He was really impressed to hear about that website. 
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I supported Toymods
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Re: You Get The Best At Pedders
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Sat, 26 April 2003 23:16
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when it all comes down to it i think its the owner of the franchise that is responsible for his/her workshop.
i have a relative who has had a pedders franchise for about a year now and really i wouldnt trust anybody else, but thats just me.
i will ask him if he's heard anything about this osbourne park guy to see if theres another side.
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Re: You Get The Best At Pedders
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Sun, 27 April 2003 04:23
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So the struts went from being something that took 1 month to get to being available in a day.
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makes it ironic that their slogan is NO BULL.
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Re: You Get The Best At Pedders
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Sun, 27 April 2003 23:05
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Hi Im new.
formalitys aside, heres a story from the other side of the tasman.
I have an AE101 levin, and after humming and harring about which springs to get, I decided on pedders as they did a wikid job of the old mans holden ute.
They reken at pedders that it'd lower my car around 40ml. I could've gone lower but I thought 40 would be enough for now. So after they were put in, I went to pick the car up and suprise... its not lower at all So when I get home I take the wheel off just to make sure they're actually in there...
They were. So anyways nearly a year later, the front of my car has gone down to a nice height, about 15ml off the wheels, and the back, well its still the same. It looks alright I guess, like a wannabe drag car  But after reading this, I'm wondering if they're lowering springs at all?
Pretty crappy for NZ$700 I think. So I can either pay $50 a spring to compress them or keep it at hilux level.
But yeah... I wouldn't reccomend Pedders to anyone else after that, I was NOT impressed
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Re: You Get The Best At Pedders
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Mon, 28 April 2003 00:54
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Without naming names, it is true, pedders shocks are manufactured by monroe. But they are not true monroe shocks. Pedders revalve the shocks to their own specifications, so you cannot compare monroe directly with pedders shocks.
I have heard many people having good experiences with pedders, and many have bad, so it's hard to say how good they are.
I think judging pedders on individual attitude of franchise stores is a bit of a no no. Like judging Pizza Hut pizzas on just one franchise stores pizza. Same product, different stores, different attitude, different customer satisfaction.
Bang for your buck, I'd say pedders is not the best quality, but they do valve their shocks much better than monroe.
I still much prefer to buy KYB, I find their performance and quality much comparable to Koni, without the price tag. Only a true racer can tell the differenc between KYB and koni on the track.
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Re: You Get The Best At Pedders
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Sat, 13 September 2003 12:00
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Re: You Get The Best At Pedders
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Sat, 13 September 2003 14:10
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well.. a friend bought pedders springs and shocks... and at the time I wasn't very clued up about this stuff.
He asked for the stiffest stuff they did for his ae86.
It seems the rear springs are an excellent rate... who knows what.
The shocks were replaced with GX71 wagon short as shocks.
the front I can't remember......
However,
I had a Ke35 that had pedders suspension front and back, it said this on the shocks.................... I now think of it as pretty average.... but it was a long time ago.
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Re: You Get The Best At Pedders
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Sat, 13 September 2003 23:37
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unfortunately most customers are afraid to go back
and tell the workshop that the product that they just paid for
is not what they wanted
now that the internet is so popular it is so easy to write
a degrading story about a business which didnt treat u right
i bet people who right these stories at one stage in hteir life have upset a customer
when they right these stories are word gets around it can easily ruin someones life
some people might do dodgey work and mihgt deserve to be shut down
if u ever watch a current affair u will understand
they never give the full story to both sides
they make it seem that someone is to blame to get good ratings for tv
i think if u ever have problems with a workshop and u r not happy tell them to put car back to normal and get yr money back
or fix the problem properly then just dont go there again
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November 2002
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Re: You Get The Best At Pedders
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Sun, 14 September 2003 05:01
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and now that link goes to some bollucks. Anyone know where the full story is now?
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