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 Nice GT4
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Tue, 20 May 2003 00:13
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Hey guys,
Check out the GT4 at the link. It is due to hit the roads soon and has a power figure to match the looks. Something like 400hp.
http://www.pbase.com/toyrota/cars
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Tue, 20 May 2003 02:01
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damn! that mazda wagon is cool! i want..
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Brisbane, Queensland
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February 2003
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Tue, 20 May 2003 02:10
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| rob_RA40 wrote on Tue, 20 May 2003 12:01 |
damn! that mazda wagon is cool! i want..
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That's Wayne Wakefield's car. It's bloody quick too.
Cal.
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Re: Nice GT4
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Tue, 20 May 2003 02:36
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how's he gonna make 400Hp, he doesnt look to have a FMIC.
Does anyone know details on this car or is there a link to some details on it
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Colac, Victoria
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May 2002
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Tue, 20 May 2003 04:58
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that Gt4 looks like it belongs in a match box car collection - or something from hotwheels
Looks all show and no go to me - which is a shame cause ive only seen 3 or 4 genuine 400HP + Gt4's
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Cairns
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June 2002
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Tue, 20 May 2003 06:15
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The car is being built in Cairns North Queensland. I don't have a lot of details but it is a no budget build. And if they have the money to do it then why not. The build has not even started yet. But it is all out build with jun internals. I will updates you all once i find out what is happening later on.
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Wed, 21 May 2003 03:23
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ok, that explains it a bit better. Its not 400HP yet but it will be once its been built
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Cairns
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June 2002
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Wed, 21 May 2003 05:06
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Yeah found out that some champion downhill mountain bike riding guy is the owner. Handed it to the performance shop and said i don't care how much it cost i want 500HP.
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Germany
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April 2003
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Wed, 21 May 2003 05:12
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| Tank wrote on Wed, 21 May 2003 15:06 |
Yeah found out that some champion downhill mountain bike riding guy is the owner.
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That explains the paint job then
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Terrigal
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May 2002
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Re: Nice GT4
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Wed, 21 May 2003 06:18
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Mmmmm the RWD 3S-GTE is nice too 
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Wed, 21 May 2003 07:57
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I think he should keep with the flame theme and set the ugly thing alight and use the insurance money to buy a honda.
P.S. making 400hp+ at the engine , what would that = to kw at all 4 wheels approx?
Anhar Khamas
GT4 Group A
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Colac, Victoria
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Re: Nice GT4
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Wed, 21 May 2003 08:31
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thats about 260kw or there abouts at the wheels i think ..
i do have a converter somewhere on the net - but cant seem to find the link
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Colac, Victoria
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Wed, 21 May 2003 08:31
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thats about 260kw or there abouts at the wheels i think ..
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Re: Nice GT4
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Thu, 22 May 2003 05:02
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Stu,
Based on my calculations 500Hp (fly) on a GT4 is about 290KW @ the wheels
If hes looking at 400Hp (fly) then its 220Kw @ wheels
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Brisbane
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June 2002
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Thu, 22 May 2003 06:39
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haha anyoone need some camber?? that mazda has enough to go around.
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Colac, Victoria
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Thu, 22 May 2003 08:15
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thanks for clearing that up gary
BTW are you going to the dyno day ?
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Thu, 22 May 2003 09:53
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No worries Stu,
Yep i'll be at Dyno Day. Hopefully with the new engine and clutch, so the car can actually make some descent power for a change.
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Colac, Victoria
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May 2002
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Thu, 22 May 2003 09:59
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bugger - there goes my 4wd award
cant beat a st205 - Yet 
still curious to see what this things doing on the rollers - Going by that guide you referred me to - it should be in the vicinity of 110-130 kw at the wheels - most of the "stage one" modifications have been done to mine by the previous owner
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Thu, 22 May 2003 13:48
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Well ATM, youv'e only got 135KW to beat. Unless i get the engine, but im not even going to speculate on the figure im expecting cause i'll only dissapoint myself if i dont get it.
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Lost in the K hole
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May 2002
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Thu, 22 May 2003 14:28
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Qld DH mountainbiker with CASH who like cars.... hmmmm Kris Kovarik ??
he used to own a NUTS lifted hilux, and his previous ute, i should mention, ran over my mates leg in a big way, and nearly killed him at mt buller about 5 years ago (not kris' fault i should add)
cheers
ed
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Gold Coast, QLD
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May 2002
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Colac, Victoria
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Re: Nice GT4
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Fri, 23 May 2003 08:47
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135KW - i dont think ill be able to beat that but id like to be within the ballpark
So far Ive had the exhaust done as per that guide ( 3inch system + dump) , its running higher than normal boost , higher than normal fuel pressure - and ill most likely work on a cold air induction setup + decent airfilter + the boost guage so i can see what actual boost im running at - just incase it is being wound too far up ( 1.0 bar is about maximum i believe in basic stock 185 motor trim ? )
Would LOVE to have my intercooler In by then but i dont see that happening in a hurry until after i get back from NZ ..
MUST have the group A bumperbar on though - cant have the current in need of respray one on there when i come to see you lot - The new toy hasta look as good as it can !
Plus ill finally be able to ee what step of the ladder im on - and where to go in 2004 to extract more of those Snorty ponies i know that hide in that 3sgte
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Colac, Victoria
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May 2002
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Fri, 23 May 2003 09:07
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Ha steve - here - just take the trophy ! me and gary will battle it out for the sub 150KW at the wheels bracket 
BTW i still think the 205 will smoke mine
Danny's GT4 is a darkhorse too when we see that on the rollers though somehow i think for now - Steves is pretty safe for unofficial balltearer Gt4 Award
All we need now is someone with a tercel or a hilux 4wd roll up and blow us all into the weeds
Just ahd a look at jamies 1uz ta22 record - if the premier dyno puts out similar - Steves Gt4 would be on the mark with jamies ta22 - and possibly the top KW recorded.
What other cars is there that people know of that might be coming to dyno day that will come close to challenging the 240+kw bracket at the wheels ? Yogi's ta22 maybe ? Any of the supra lads ?
Looking forward to seeing some big figures - Sounds like this day will be tops
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Gold Coast, QLD
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May 2002
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Fri, 23 May 2003 09:28
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Nah .. I don't want the trophy. We are simply doing this to see what we can get out of it. Don't forget I have a TRD Rally block and lots and lots and lots .. etc .. of work done to it.
It's currently doing 268kw @ 9700rpm. Revs like a mad cat. Taken it to just under 11,000rpm then closed my eyes and walked outta the dyno room
We have put some milder cams back in it now and tuning it down to about 200kw and i'm going to start driving it around again. I miss my GT4 ....
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Re: Nice GT4
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Fri, 23 May 2003 09:38
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Steve,
Are you coming down in July?
What turbo are you now using?
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Gold Coast, QLD
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May 2002
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Fri, 23 May 2003 09:46
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No .. not comming down in July. We have just started selling ADSL and I am currently setting up some Hot Spots (wireless) around the Gold Coast so that's keeping me outta trouble.
Been running a CT26 at all the time but it's had some weird and wonderful wheels put in .. taken out .. thrown away .. ground down .. rewelded skirts .. reground skirts .. i'm not really sure what it was by the end. I have a CT26 T04e that I had on originally that we have put back on now.
Car is back in the garage here now. i'll be taking it to Brisbane for a run on Sunday .. Can't wait!!
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Fri, 23 May 2003 11:38
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Hi Steve, 268kw at the wheels would be knockin close to 500hp. Is that with NOS? Thats an awesome result and well deserved considering the dramas you went through. Is this possible on 540cc and a CT26 flowed due to the use of Nos? Thanks
Stuart, I have a spare support bar and complete water squirter setup from a Group A if your intrested.
Almost there Boyz The ST195 is on its way
Anhar Khamas
GT4 Group A
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Re: Nice GT4
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Fri, 23 May 2003 12:01
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how much more you got to do Anhar? Are you gonna have it ready in time, i hope so. Cant wait to see what your car will do.
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Fri, 23 May 2003 12:25
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Got a few more things to do but I have the time and money now that the house is sorted to get the beast all ready before dyno day 7 . The 205 motor is ready to be dropped in and the 185 is coming out this weekend. Waiting for flywheel and a few other goodies but all is going well. Also getting new piping done for the new set up so I will be very busy but enjoying every bit of it.
Should be a big improvement on my 174kw @ 1 bar as I will be pushing 1.5 bar with the new motor as I aim for that magic 200 mark. Hope it all comes together for me.
Anhar Khamas
GT4 Group A
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Re: Nice GT4
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Fri, 23 May 2003 12:50
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Hope it all comes together for you too mate.
I'd love to help pulling your engine and putting in the new one, it would help me to get some practice for when im doing my engine swap
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Colac, Victoria
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May 2002
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Sat, 24 May 2003 00:21
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Anhar - very interested in the Support bar for definate - as i will need one to get the bumper on
Re the water squirter - is this for a front mount cooler ?
Please PM me with the answers to save the guys me asking silly questions
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Gold Coast, QLD
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Carlingford, Sydney
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Re: Nice GT4
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Sat, 24 May 2003 05:19
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Kris Kovarik...
thats the name i was thinking as well
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Sydney
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Sat, 24 May 2003 07:53
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| SteveGt4 wrote on Fri, 23 May 2003 19:28 |
It's currently doing 268kw @ 9700rpm. Revs like a mad cat. Taken it to just under 11,000rpm then closed my eyes and walked outta the dyno room
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shit 11k rpm... that is moto material
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Colac, Victoria
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Sat, 24 May 2003 08:24
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Davgt4 - you might be safe too
Went and got my front bar today , and CeLiCa keenly spotted that mine doersnt have the dump pipe afterall - When i thought it did and was informed it had .. oh well - im still coming - just means im gunna be Shy a few KW on the rollers. It does have the proper Cat back system though which is a plus - which means i only have to " replace " one part of the plumbing - not all . he also Showed me the way to do a nicer CAI setup - So ta for the info today Sepang - the advice has been noted - and im already on the ball to solve it
Now im working out in my head whether i should get the dump pipe done + work on the intake before fitting the front bar + getting it all looking " nice " ..
Decisions decisions - more horsies - or nicer looking ride .....
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Colac, Victoria
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May 2002
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Sat, 24 May 2003 09:10
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Anhar - you dont have the two mesh inserts for the side ducts on the Grp A bumper as well by any chance
Got the bumper today - it looks a but rough - but im pretty confident its repairable . has no mash though
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Gold Coast, QLD
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May 2002
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Sat, 24 May 2003 09:52
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Now you know why i'm not going to push the Motor gods any further. Has nice profile cams in it now and reds about 8900rpm. Although I change about 7800rpm.
Might add another sticker so I can take it to 9000rpm.
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Sat, 24 May 2003 10:53
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Classique71, I finally got the boost controller working tonight. Its crazy now, it hits around 13psi in 1st and 2nd and around 16 psi in 3rd and 4th. The car was flying tonite. And I found a cool feature on the EBC that lets u press a button and it goes onto a high boost setting for a set period of time that it counts down on the screen and then goes back to the normal set boost. Now I can put a NOS sticker on my car and justify it to all the ricers
Good luck with the front bar as well. I hope u can fix it and make it look all nice and new.
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Sat, 24 May 2003 11:01
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Also, remember how i was telling you about the gunmetal GT4 with the respray, GRP A front and duck tail wing? I got a pic for you to look at:
Here's the link to his site:
http://www.geocities.com/toyotaalltrac/
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Colac, Victoria
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Re: Nice GT4
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Sun, 25 May 2003 07:34
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You can get them from places off the net and they'll send them from the states.
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Re: Nice GT4
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Tue, 27 May 2003 03:09
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hey gt4'ers
hope to cya all at the dyno day
stu - just get aftermarket mesh
anhar - good to c your getting close!
should throw my car on the dyno if the engine is run-in enough
not expecting any high figures because i'm running stock boost until i run the engine in properly (and i get a FMIC and aftermarket ecu)
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Colac, Victoria
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Tue, 27 May 2003 23:27
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Yeah looks similar. Mine has a lip at the bottom though. Looks like he's modifed the stock front by taking out the center bar and getting a plastic welder to fix it up. looks good !
Should I mention that the Exhaust Shop has removed the Cat and not even replaced it with a highflow type. tisk tisk ..
GT4SOM was a black Gt4 based here on the Gold Coast. Rigoli's did most of the work on it and it moved along quite well. basically he had the same parts as mine but never had the internals done to the same extent as mine. Also it was a GenIII block i think.
The owner has since sold it and I heard that the new owner blew the motor up (not sure though).
What a waste ....
Also Stu .. if you buy some grill to fix to your frontend, get it powdercoated black before you put it on, not just painted. Stones chip away the paint pretty quickly.
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Thu, 29 May 2003 12:44
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Cool! Lotsa' GT4s! Looks like I'll be the 'benchmark' Grp A at the dyno day - completely stock - but still good for 110kw @ wheels (according to that Zoom article anyway) in theory.
BTW, anyone know what the official engine factory output power is for the Grp A? Most sites on the net say anywhere between 173-176kw, but there are couple around that say 153kw (one from a Wheels mag article, & one from www.carsales.com.au).
Anyone got an official Toyota brochure/spec sheet?
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Colac, Victoria
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Thu, 29 May 2003 12:55
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HP wise in stock trim theres only about 10HP between the group a And the stock 185 according to toyota
Though KW wise - its about 20KW difference in favour of the group a
They also have shorter ratio gearboxes and a ECU that allows mapping up to 1.2 bar instead of 1 bar like yours and mine tony
Overall they are not that much different - but the biots around them make the Grp A Snappier off the mark and overall - the the 185 would have a higher topspeed due to a taller final gear ratio - I THINK ..
Still id love having the Grp A for rareness
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Fri, 30 May 2003 01:24
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Can someone please clear this up for me. Is an ST185 group A the same as the ST185 group A Carlos Sainz limitied edition?
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Fri, 30 May 2003 01:29
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Yes.
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Fri, 30 May 2003 01:35
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Where all the group A ST185 GT4s carlos sainz ones or where there a limited number produced?
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Fri, 30 May 2003 02:05
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there were 250 Carlos Sainz brought in to Australia. And the power output 230PS which is about 170KW
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Fri, 30 May 2003 02:26
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Actually, there are only 150 Carlos Sainz's in Australia.
Yes, all Australian delivered Group A's are Carlos Sainz editions. Although there are now some imported Group A's from Japan, which have a 'narrow body' (CeLiCa - is yours a narrow body import?)
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Fri, 30 May 2003 16:06
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Yep, my Celica is not a GT4. I imported a GRP A front cut from Japan and swapped all the parts (motor, ECU, bonnet, etc) onto my ST184. Its full of torque-steering goodness now.
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Thu, 16 December 2004 11:24
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my cars a jap import Gt4, with a narrow body and I love it.. no one thinks it's a gt4.. but it is
The rear arches on a wide body are to hard to fill legally anyway..
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