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what does white smoke mean?
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Mon, 24 June 2002 01:12
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Hello, asking on behalf of a mate with a G63B starion engine.
It seems to blow a lot of white smoke. When idling and when under boost it is most noticable. Only just started happening.
Haven't had a chance to check water levels. I'm guessing white smoke is steam/water being burn't?
Any ideas where this is coming from, head gasket maybe? Can water for the turbo leak into the exhaust maybe?
Thanks !
Joel
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I supported Toymods
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Re: what does white smoke mean?
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Mon, 24 June 2002 01:29
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White smoke is usually coolant/water. Hes probably blown a head gasket or something. Serves him right for involving himself with a Starion... j/k
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Toymods Board Member
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Re: what does white smoke mean?
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Mon, 24 June 2002 04:18
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White smoke is usually and indication of oil being burnt .. not water.. You will be able to smell the difference between oil being burnt and condensation .. If it is a starion.. they have a tendancy to kill the rings.. Do a compression test . .that will definatly tell you ...
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Re: what does white smoke mean?
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Mon, 24 June 2002 04:39
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Thats not what I've been told!
As far as I've seen, know:
White - water/coolant
Blue - oil
Black - Fuel (too rich)
I was pretty sure, because I've had my car do Blue because it was burning oil (too much in it, teach me to rush  ) and black because it runs rich when the choke is on...anyone else?
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Re: what does white smoke mean?
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Mon, 24 June 2002 04:46
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JCMF is definately correct here (I know because I told him myself  ), but possibly on more than 1 thing.
The colours of smoke is correct, and yes could more than likely have blown the head gasket. Seen a few of them with BHGs around.
Youll probably find that the water is down, and it may even decide to come out the overflow bottle after driving.
Get a CO2 test done, and thatll give you a better indication.
cheers
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Toymods Board Member
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Re: what does white smoke mean?
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Mon, 24 June 2002 05:43
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I stand corrected  ... You guys are right .. Bugger. . 
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I supported Toymods
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Montrose, VIC
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May 2002
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Re: what does white smoke mean?
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Tue, 25 June 2002 14:10
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White smoke can be steam, although it will usually sound like Thomas the Tank Engine in the process (take the AE71 parked in my drive as an example)
White smoke can well mean oil, usually from the turbo leaking and burning it in the exhaust. My chemistry is not quite up to scratch on the reasoning for it burning white when it does, but I think its temperature related. Generally takes a lotta water to produce huge clouds of steam, and that would make it very hard to start, whereas a stuffed turbo will smoke like all buggery at idle and when the boot goes down (just like mine did).
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I supported Toymods
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Re: what does white smoke mean?
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Tue, 25 June 2002 15:01
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Oil smoke is almost white, should have a bluish tinge to it, and it smells like shit
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Terrigal
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May 2002
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Re: what does white smoke mean?
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Tue, 25 June 2002 23:36
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Thanks everyone for all this info. Looks like I got a few things to look at.
Will get headgasket test done, sounds cheap and easy.. I've replaced head gasket on g63b before and from memory was a easy job.
As for the posibility of turbo or oil being burnt sounds like it might be a bit harder to diagnose.. Suppose commpression test with eliminate the rings/pistons/valves right? If that all checks out ok then probably turbo?
Thanks all..
Joel
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Newcastle
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May 2002
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Re: what does white smoke mean?
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Wed, 26 June 2002 13:58
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I've owned 2 Cordia's and a Starion and had the same problem with them all. As they get old the factory air/oil seperator build ups muck and clogs up and fails to breath air as it should and will cause the engine to blow smoke. So pull it off and see if it still blows smoke. If it does its head gasket or problems as listed above or you may be lucky like me and she'll stop smoking!
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May 2002
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Re: what does white smoke mean?
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Thu, 27 June 2002 21:35
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first of all is it an automatic???
if it is it will most likely be the (modulator??)
it's a little diaphram thing that when it breaks the needle pushes through the diaphram and allows auto fluid into the engine. auto fluid will produce a much whiter smoke than engine oil. normally notice puffs of white smoke on takeoff
anyway if it isn't that then it's engine oil.
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Re: what does white smoke mean?
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Sat, 29 June 2002 05:41
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what are all you guys on about. Everyone knows that white smoke is when you push the accelerator down and let the clutch out fast. It ussually begins around the rear wheels and occasionally front of the front sometimes even from all four. This can cause excesive tire wear and a hightened emotional level. Be carful, if you notice red and blue lights then too much white smoke has been produced and this will end up costing you some money. 
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I supported Toymods
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Re: what does white smoke mean?
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Sun, 30 June 2002 11:54
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Hahaha, thats a nice way of solving the argument
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Sydney, Australia
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May 2002
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Re: what does white smoke mean?
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Tue, 02 July 2002 08:37
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So what about green radiator liquid coming out of the exhaust pipe - is that a bad sign? 
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I supported Toymods
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Re: what does white smoke mean?
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Tue, 02 July 2002 11:48
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ummmmm, yeah!!!!
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Re: what does white smoke mean?
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Tue, 02 July 2002 14:47
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My friend's beaten up old XF falcon blows out LIGHT BROWN smoke! we think it might be from the rust down the exhaust pipe??? He says the car runs on love, hmmmm.... real romantic. I don't think the feeling's mutual. Who knows, he's a leb.
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Re: what does white smoke mean?
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Tue, 02 July 2002 15:40
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Hey,
It's more likely that it is a turbo problem ... The turbo in my Cordia was extremely smoky because one of the seals was damaged.
Smoke at idle and on boost indicates this.
Alex
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Terrigal
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May 2002
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Re: what does white smoke mean?
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Tue, 02 July 2002 23:28
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Thats interesting as it is only idle and boost. Cruise is fine.
Pulled the intercooler pipe off the turbo the other night and was coated in oil.. Looks like the turbo has had it. Hopefully that all, but will find out once its replaced.
Thanks everyone for all these suggestions/ideas!
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The Rainy City
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May 2002
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Re: what does white smoke mean?
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Wed, 03 July 2002 02:51
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Serves him right for involving himself with a Starion... j/k
oi!!!!!!!!
btw, any of u ex starion owners know how much: the headlight switch cossts, the power mirrors motor, the intake (pre turbo) pipe costs?
Mine doesnt blow any smoke at all luckily
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