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Re: Spelling Lesson Fri, 04 July 2003 09:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
spelling doesn't have much to do with intelligence anyway

spelling is a matter of training, and the blame falls on the education system if people spell some words wrong

the ability to understand whats written is a much more important skill to have

computers can fix your spelling (hence the "spell check message" button next to submit reply), but they cant help you string together a constructive argument or a meaningfull sentence


as long as whats written isnt verbal trash that has no meaning, ie i can understand it, i dont really care if spelling is spelt spellnig cos i still know what it means
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Re: Spelling Lesson Sat, 05 July 2003 00:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
lang wrote on Fri, 04 July 2003 19:20

spelling doesn't have much to do with intelligence anyway

Actually, there is a positive correlation between spelling and intelligence (depending on how you measure 'intelligence', of course - let's not open that kettle of fish).

lang wrote on Fri, 04 July 2003 19:20

spelling is a matter of training, and the blame falls on the education system if people spell some words wrong

So what happened to one's own responsibility to maintain a high standard?

lang wrote on Fri, 04 July 2003 19:20

the ability to understand whats written is a much more important skill to have

Agreed, but if every second word is incorrectly spelt and the grammar is up the putt everywhere, this may well render the writer's words unintelligible.

lang wrote on Fri, 04 July 2003 19:20

computers can fix your spelling (hence the "spell check message" button next to submit reply), but they cant help you string together a constructive argument or a meaningful sentence

Like I said before, spellchecker will only check the spelling of the word and provide a range of options - ultimately it is up to the writer to choose the correct option.
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Re: Spelling Lesson Sat, 05 July 2003 11:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
like i said before - dew knot trust yore spell chequer
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Re: Spelling Lesson Sat, 05 July 2003 12:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
THE WITZL wrote on Sat, 05 July 2003 21:49

like i said before - dew knot trust yore spell chequer



my point still holds tho

if your using spell checker, and you dont know how to spell the word, but you know what it means, then you should be able to get around with no trouble

as for it being your own responsibility to maintain your spelling, if you havent learnt at school its really quite pointless learning now if you know the difference between two similar words. why do something a machine can do for you, we're human, we invent stuff to do what we dont want to.

i am not going to spend time trying to better my spelling, because i know my verbal IQ is extremley high,

i dont need to spend time learning how to spell, because its a waste of my time, and its pointless eliteism thinking that rote learning a bunch of words gives you the right to shit on people who dont know how to spell as well as you do.



however

i also agree if someone puts up a post so bad that you cant make sense of it, or there was no sense in it to being with, then your a moron. if you can speak intelligable english you should be able to write, it even if you dont spell it how Mr Macquarie and Mrs Oxford we have here would Very Happy
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Re: Spelling Lesson Sat, 05 July 2003 13:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
lang wrote on Sat, 05 July 2003 22:40

....i am not going to spend time trying to better my spelling, because i know my verbal IQ is extremley high....


From my understanding of verbal IQ, a person with high verbal IQ (120+, 2 SD above average, <10% population) should be able to recognise, distinguish, spell, define, associate and fluently interchange words as required. Not knowing how to spell would lead to a diminished ability to perform the other tasks - sure, the meaning may be derived from their contextual use (even if they are grossly misspelt), but that's not how the verbal component of an IQ test is generally performed (unless it's some crappy internet IQ test).

If people want to be sloppy on the internet, that's one thing. Picking on people because of it is a little elitist. However, the argument that one can possess a high verbal IQ (as classically tested) and yet not be able to spell well is flawed.
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Re: Spelling Lesson Sat, 05 July 2003 13:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
well for the record my verbal IQ was 134 back when i was in year 9, 5 years ago

im just pissed off that i scored shitly in that test because its insulting to my ego Very Happy


so wouldnt that disprove your comment that my theory is flawed?

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Re: Spelling Lesson Sat, 05 July 2003 13:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
and it was a proper test by the way not an internet one

my parents thought i had had attention deficit disorder
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Re: Spelling Lesson Tue, 08 July 2003 05:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
What shits me as a school teacher is the whole "bro, coz, yor, plez, somfin" I can't think of any more now but they really piss me off.

Why do people type like that?? I would find it really hard to type a normal letter or report after typing like that all the time.
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Re: Spelling Lesson Tue, 08 July 2003 05:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
viagra_cressida wrote on Tue, 08 July 2003 15:33

What shits me as a school teacher is the whole "bro, coz, yor, plez, somfin" I can't think of any more now but they really piss me off.

Why do people type like that?? I would find it really hard to type a normal letter or report after typing like that all the time.



yeah bro i c where ya comin from

l8r dood

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Re: Spelling Lesson Tue, 08 July 2003 06:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
D4nNy 0wNz j00 c0$ h3z l3337!
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Re: Spelling Lesson Tue, 08 July 2003 07:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hey GT....

..l.Very Happy.l..
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Re: Spelling Lesson Tue, 08 July 2003 08:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ed_ma61 wrote on Fri, 04 July 2003 11:30

Shteeve wrote on Fri, 04 July 2003 11:20

having to type quickly isn't any excuse to have no knowledge of how grammar works...


exactly

and i dont think that citing internet-driven abrievited typing techniques is a vaild excuse for typing "there" when the correct word is "their" (for example)

what it does show is a poor level of basic spelling an gramatical principles in the internet population...


People's inability to spell, or inabilty to use correct grammar also bugs me (I tolerate the odd typo, and I have grown fond of the abbreviation process).
Ed - is that supposed to be an abbreviation of abbreviated?
If it is, then I think that you didn't save yourself much time Laughing

Now seperate the definate misuse of word's that will prolly be excepted in time (americanised) and apostrofy's being used were thay have no rite is a f#%king disgray's of owr wonderfull langwage. Nuff sed bro!
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Re: Spelling Lesson Tue, 08 July 2003 08:43 Go to previous message
ed_ma61 wrote on Fri, 04 July 2003 11:30

...abrievited...gramatical...


YelloRolla wrote on Tue, 08 July 2003 18:05

Ed - is that supposed to be an abbreviation of abbreviated?
If it is, then I think that you didn't save yourself much time


im actually not sure what i wrote anymore Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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