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July 2003
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 Pod vs panel filters
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Thu, 31 July 2003 04:20
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Since pod filters are illegal unless enclosed, how would a good panel filter (such as K&N) compare with a pod? I can't see the panel filter allowing anywhere near as much airflow.
Also, should I just go ahead and put a pod filter in my '89 celica? It's not like I'm gonna get pulled over and inspected right? 
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GoldCoast/Brisbane
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May 2002
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Location:
Sydney
Registered:
July 2003
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Re: Pod vs panel filters
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Thu, 31 July 2003 04:35
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So the Civic with the panel filter had the extra hp? Am I reading your post right?
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Location:
c'town, NSW
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May 2002
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Re: Pod vs panel filters
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Thu, 31 July 2003 04:42
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hehe thats gold speedcore, did u tell the owner of the other civic about the kw difference?
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Location:
GoldCoast/Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: Pod vs panel filters
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Thu, 31 July 2003 04:52
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Yeah the panel filter got more HP!
Yeah he's a nice guy..... but he spewed when he saw my printout!
This was at the dyno day where norbie got 302hp at the wheels!!
Smart ass!!
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Location:
Ipswich
Registered:
July 2002
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Re: Pod vs panel filters
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Thu, 31 July 2003 07:16
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It also depends on the car you are using.
On my mk3 supra the pod filter is definately noticable.
But the mk3 supra has a pretty restrictive air intake.
Pod filter with cold air intake is even more noticable.
Brett.
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Location:
Sydney
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July 2003
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Re: Pod vs panel filters
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Thu, 31 July 2003 07:18
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Good point - anyone know which would be better for my '89 3S-GE Celica?
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Location:
Doncaster, VIC
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June 2003
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Re: Pod vs panel filters
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Thu, 31 July 2003 12:14
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I've had both panel filter and pod filter in my 3S-FE equipped RAV4. I must say the pod is much better:
- more (good) noise
- more power
- more fuel economy
as compared to a K&N drop in panel filter. BTW, i had no idea pod was illegal...but that won't stop me. Don't see too many RAV4s being pulled over
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I supported Toymods
Location:
Epping, Sydney
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: Pod vs panel filters
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Thu, 31 July 2003 12:41
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as said, depends on your car.
on a relatively new car, a drop in panel filter is great, and tends to perform as well, or better, than a pod
on older cars (like an 89 celica) the pod filer with cool air ducting would be the better choice.
as for not getting pulled over.... well I've never had a cop ask me to pop the bonnet, but I know of a few places they love to set up defecting stations. If I ever encounter one of those, I'm going to be seriously tempted to do a barney
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c'town, NSW
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May 2002
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Re: Pod vs panel filters
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Thu, 31 July 2003 22:11
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| mozrav wrote on Thu, 31 July 2003 22:14 |
I've had both panel filter and pod filter in my 3S-FE equipped RAV4. I must say the pod is much better:
- more fuel economy
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explain please?
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Location:
Doncaster, VIC
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June 2003
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Re: Pod vs panel filters
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Fri, 01 August 2003 08:56
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What i meant was the fuel economy has increased with the pod filter, as compared to the K&N drop in filter. Under the same driving conditions i get more kilometers from one tank of petrol on a pod filter than compared to a drop in filter. I think the recent colder Melb. weather has helped here too, but on average i'm getting about 40-50 kms more out of a tank of petrol with the pod filter. BTW, this is what's helping me get better fuel economy and power in my Rav:
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Location:
Epping, Sydney
Registered:
April 2003
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Re: Pod vs panel filters
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Fri, 01 August 2003 11:18
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cool. where did you get it all from?  especially the AFM -> Pod adapter
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Location:
Doncaster, VIC
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June 2003
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Re: Pod vs panel filters
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Sat, 02 August 2003 09:28
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I got that air intake kit from a company called ProCarParts in America. Normally they sell it for US$50 thru their site but brand new kits pop up on ebay quite regularly. I won my kit on ebay for US$30...shipping was a bummer though...US$50! But all up the final outlay was AU$135 (intake kit, shipping, fees/charges, etc). Those 135 dollars have given me more power, meaner sound and less fuel consumption. Also i like the looks i get from people when i open up the throttle as i drive past them...very rare for a RAV4 
BTW, those silicone hoses and AFM adapter were of no use on an Aussie 3S-FE engine. They're still sitting in my garage.
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Location:
sydney
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April 2003
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Re: Pod vs panel filters
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Sun, 03 August 2003 08:55
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is your newish 3s-fe MAP sensored or something? cause my 3s-fe is AFM and so definately needs the AFM adaptor. i had a metal shop make one up for me for my CAI.
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Location:
Wollongong
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March 2003
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Re: Pod vs panel filters
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Sun, 03 August 2003 13:09
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aparantly on the 1jz-gte (soarer TT) BFI and a decent pannel filter (ie TRD/K&N) will perform equally as well as a Pod.
however the intake noise form a pod is way better.
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Location:
Doncaster, VIC
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June 2003
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Re: Pod vs panel filters
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Sun, 03 August 2003 21:37
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| crazy_camry wrote on Sun, 03 August 2003 18:55 |
is your newish 3s-fe MAP sensored or something? cause my 3s-fe is AFM and so definately needs the AFM adaptor. i had a metal shop make one up for me for my CAI.
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On the stock air intake setup there is no visible AFM. All you can see is an air intake temp. sensor going into the stock air intake setup. When i removed the stock piping and box from my Rav all i used was the reducer, chrome pipe, pod filter, hose clamps and the long rectangular metal bit you see in the pic above to support the pod from below.
The AFM adaptor and silicone hoses were not used...the hoses need to be used on American RAV4s as they have tougher pollution control stuff. I capped off 2 of the openings in the chrome pipe (where the hoses would slip over in American RAVs) with some of those rubber endcaps you see on the bottom of outdoor chair legs.
I'll post a pic of my setup soon but till then here's a pic of the intake kit in an American RAV. The owner has not removed the lower half of the stock air filter box...he's using it to support the pod. In my case i've removed the entire air filter box and used the supplied metal bracket to support the pod.
And he uses the AFM adaptor as a cupholder 
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Location:
Epping, Sydney
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April 2003
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Location:
Sydney
Registered:
July 2003
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Re: Pod vs panel filters
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Mon, 04 August 2003 01:08
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Hahahah
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Location:
sydney
Registered:
April 2003
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Re: Pod vs panel filters
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Mon, 04 August 2003 08:20
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| mozrav wrote on Mon, 04 August 2003 07:37 |
On the stock air intake setup there is no visible AFM. [img]
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my old 3s-fe has the AFM box thing between air filter and throttle body. soon to be between air filter and turbo
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Location:
Doncaster, VIC
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June 2003
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Re: Pod vs panel filters
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Tue, 05 August 2003 21:29
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crazy_camry, how old is your Camry's 3S-FE engine? My friend has a 1988 Camry and his 3S-FE engine also has an AFM. My 1996 RAV4's 3S-FE does not have an AFM so maybe they dropped it for some reason between those years?
RobST162, if you really want the cup holder you can have it
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Location:
Tasmania
Registered:
June 2003
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Re: Pod vs panel filters
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Wed, 06 August 2003 01:29
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I want to put a pod on my 86 3s-ge celica aswell but I need an adoptor so I can put it on infront of the AFM.....does anybody know where I can get 1 from......autobarn has 1 that says it is sutable for toyota and nissan will this fit? Jaxe how are u getting urs on?
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Location:
sydney
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April 2003
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Re: Pod vs panel filters
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Wed, 06 August 2003 06:50
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i have a 92 camry. they would have dropped it like they did on later model 3s-gte.
Skinnypoo measure the bolt pattern on the AFM and see if it is the same as the adaptor they are selling. i imagine it would fit though if it says it will fit toyota as they seem to have a genric AFM.
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Location:
Tasmania
Registered:
June 2003
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 Re: Pod vs panel filters
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Fri, 08 August 2003 00:01
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Hey guys,
Fitted my pod to my 86 3s-ge celica last night.......when the revs gets into the TVIS (4000-4500rpm i think it starts) it sounds insane. I not sure about power mabey a little more......but im bloddy happy with how it sounds..
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Location:
Epping, Sydney
Registered:
April 2003
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Re: Pod vs panel filters
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Fri, 08 August 2003 00:41
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mine does that with the panel filter + the cold air induction too 
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Location:
Sydney
Registered:
July 2003
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Re: Pod vs panel filters
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Fri, 08 August 2003 01:22
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Heh.. how about that?! I put my new filter in last night too! I've noticed the difference too.. pretty good/quick mod.
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Location:
Tasmania
Registered:
June 2003
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Re: Pod vs panel filters
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Fri, 08 August 2003 01:58
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"mine does that with the panel filter + the cold air induction too"
How did u set ur cold air induction up???
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Location:
Parramatta
Registered:
July 2002
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Re: Pod vs panel filters
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Fri, 08 August 2003 03:55
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at the moment mine runs better with no air filter cause my pod is filthy too restrictive.... LOL just put a stocking over the pipping and it works like a treet for the time being....
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Location:
Sydney
Registered:
July 2003
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Re: Pod vs panel filters
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Fri, 08 August 2003 04:27
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A stocking? One from your private collection? Haha just kidding mate!
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