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Hobart, TAS
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Getting fuel and spark at points but motor wont start?
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Mon, 08 July 2002 07:01
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Theres definetly fuel squirting in the carby, and theres spark at the points (points are fairly new) but my motor (18r) wont start. I relize it could be a number of things but what are the more common reasons?
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sydney
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May 2002
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Re: Getting fuel and spark at points but motor wont start?
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Mon, 08 July 2002 07:32
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Firstly eliminate bad fuel..has the engine been sitting for a while? drain out the bowl and use some fresh stuff, what sort of carby are you running?
really the only other major fault could be timing so get you timing light out and give it the once over 
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Hobart, TAS
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May 2002
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Sydney
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May 2002
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sydney
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May 2002
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Hobart, TAS
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May 2002
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Re: Getting fuel and spark at points but motor wont start?
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Tue, 09 July 2002 10:43
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It was the timing being out, thanks guys. But now i have a new problem. My battery is flat so i was using my girlfrineds to start it then she went out, later on i tried to jump start it off my mates car but it couldnt get enough power to crank it long enough (cheapo leads i reckon) so i put my mates batt in and when i turned the key i got nothing, the terminals were tight and i coudnt see anything wrong with wiring, any ideas?
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sydney
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Re: Getting fuel and spark at points but motor wont start?
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Tue, 09 July 2002 10:49
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check that you havent knocked off the solenoid wire whilst playing with every thing else.....starter could also be jammed...put the car in gear and rock it a little back and forth then try and start it again. Also check to see you havent blown any fuses
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Hobart, TAS
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May 2002
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Re: Getting fuel and spark at points but motor wont start?
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Tue, 09 July 2002 11:03
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I checked the fuses, i dont think the starter motors jammed coz when i turned on the ignition the CHG and OIL light didnt come like usual, it was totally dead, wheres that solenoid?
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New Zealand
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May 2002
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Re: Getting fuel and spark at points but motor wont start?
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Tue, 09 July 2002 11:30
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i'd be checking everything...... terminals, coil wires, etc etc.
I know it's already been discussed, but bad fuel makes a huge difference....... especially when it's contaminated with meths.
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sydney
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Re: Getting fuel and spark at points but motor wont start?
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Wed, 10 July 2002 06:25
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Well if youve got no dash lights you must have either blown a fuse...probhably the fuseable link attached to the +ve terminal (60 & 30 amp fuses) or not have the terminal connections on correctly ( also check the earth point to the chasis if you removed it)
The starter motor solenoid is attached to the starter motor, its where the big lead and the small plug in connector go to...check that both are connected securely
also check the dash fuses as well to make sure they havent blown
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Hobart, TAS
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May 2002
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Re: Getting fuel and spark at points but motor wont start?
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Wed, 10 July 2002 06:54
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No blown fuses under the dash, but today i found in the engine bay two single 5A fuses both in plastic cases that have FUSER written on them (what are these for), they were both blown, i replaced them but one was a 10A fuse coz thats all i had, a guy at the servo said the 10A should work, its still dead, i think its a dodgy positve terminal coz the head lights and stuff dont work either when a full charged battery is connected so i will give it some attention and see how it goes.
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Re: Getting fuel and spark at points but motor wont start?
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Wed, 10 July 2002 07:18
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If the fuses have blown something must have triggered them, I would be looking at what may have caused it.
The two fuses you are describing may be aftermarket (Im not all that familiar with your car) and therefore installed by someone who may not have really known what they were doing, try and trace where they go to by following the wires and matching the colours elsewhere in the car. Did you check the fuseable link?
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Hobart, TAS
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May 2002
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Re: Getting fuel and spark at points but motor wont start?
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Wed, 10 July 2002 07:34
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These two fuses look like they have been there since the car come out in 76, they seem to come out of the wiring that runs from the alternator, they have probably been blown for a while, its probably why lately the CHG light has been coming on sometimes when the car/ignition is off. Tomorrow when I have access to my gfriends battery again i will make sure the postive terminal wires are all connected properly. What is the fusable link?
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Re: Getting fuel and spark at points but motor wont start?
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Wed, 10 July 2002 08:06
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it is the main fuse to you battery, its usually located in a small box or as a plug on the =ve terminal right on/near the battery, if the fuse is blown there will be no power to anywhere in the car
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newcastle
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May 2002
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Location:
Hobart, TAS
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May 2002
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Tasmania
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May 2002
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Re: Getting fuel and spark at points but motor wont start?
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Thu, 11 July 2002 08:01
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If you have touched the points in any way, the timing needs to be reset with a timing light. Bring it around I guess, I have a timing light.
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