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 Newbie question?
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Tue, 16 September 2003 23:48
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I have an ra23 celica with an 18rg in it atm...
I killed the 18rg and am in need of a cheap replacement while I save for my project *SHHHH* 
My mechanic *because I don't have time to sort the engine out myself* has suggested that I go an 18rc or a 21t? Which I think he means a 2tg but not sure?
Can anyone tell me the major differences between an 18rc and an 18rg?
Also if the 21t engine even exists? *I'm not too keen on the 2tg BAH to a 1600 I like my 2ltr*
Thanks in advance 
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I supported Toymods
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Sydney
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November 2002
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Re: Newbie question?
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Wed, 17 September 2003 00:00
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There is a 21R if that is what he means.
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Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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January 2003
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Re: Newbie question?
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Wed, 17 September 2003 00:01
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maybe he meant 21R? afaik there's 18R, 20R, 21R, 22R etc... truck motors.. like hiluxes and stuff.
as for 18RC and 18RG, go for a goolge first. RG has a really wide head, so i'm assuming it's a twin cam??
Cya, Stewart
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Location:
Perth
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November 2002
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Re: Newbie question?
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Wed, 17 September 2003 00:22
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yeap, the RC is a boat anchor, so don't bother. Find an RG or a 2tg. Preferably an RG as it would be the easiest swap in if you already had one before.
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Cabramatta, NSW
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May 2002
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Re: Newbie question?
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Wed, 17 September 2003 00:25
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Yeah, he would've meant a 21R-C from an RA60.
Stewart, 18R-G is a twincam. Nice engine. It's the pick of the R-series bunch.
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Location:
Adelaide
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September 2003
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Re: Newbie question?
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Wed, 17 September 2003 00:34
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2tg - 1600 over a 2ltr? *2tg good???*
for a daily driver *not my racer* would an 18rc suit?
Knowing that my celica is my project car and there is another engine swap planned soon as I've saved up enough to pay for it?
The aim:
3sgte < 300hp at wheels
Big big brakes
off white leather interior
Custom dash....
mmmm damn I'm off dreaming again
Its a work in progress but I need to drive it atm
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Location:
Cabramatta, NSW
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May 2002
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Re: Newbie question?
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Wed, 17 September 2003 00:37
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Just grab the cheapest R-series carby engine you can find.
That means anything that doesn't have an 'E' in the engine code, so stay away from the 18R-GEU and 22R-E.
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Location:
Adelaide
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September 2003
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Re: Newbie question?
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Wed, 17 September 2003 00:42
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so an 18rc should be cool for a daily driver
I'll go with that while I save for the 3s
Cheers all
*damn I love this place*
Answers come so easily
ooh while I think of it:
anyone know if the 18rc is gonna bolt straight in with my existing exhaust / extractors?
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Launceston, Tasmania
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May 2002
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Re: Newbie question?
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Wed, 17 September 2003 00:53
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It will bolt straight in as it was actually the original engine that comes in your car when it is new. I am pretty sure that the extractors would also fit although i'm not 100% sure.
The 18RC is basicly a crappy single cam version of the 18RG. Quite gutless but it should be right while you save for your next conversion. You do realise that a 3SGTE conversion would cost a bloody lot to complete and get it running on the road!
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Location:
Adelaide
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September 2003
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Re: Newbie question?
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Wed, 17 September 2003 00:59
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I've costed the whole conversion for the 3sgte
*I nearly died when I saw it*
but should make a good conversion.
Most of it I'm going to be doing myself with the help of some friends
WHoot gotta love projects
*When you all say the 18rc is gutless -- does that mean no more 200kph flybys with my ra23?*
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Launceston, Tasmania
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May 2002
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Re: Newbie question?
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Wed, 17 September 2003 01:08
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actually the 18RC does have a high top speed! well for a boat ancor anyway. I had my RA40 up to 180kmph a couple of times, it just took a while to get that fast I think they were 100hp or so stock. Depending what version of the 18RG you had, it could have been anywhere from 120hp - 145hp so you'll definately notice the difference.
18RCs are cheep though! i quite often see them in my local news paper in the free addvertisements for items under $50.
good luck with the 3sgte conversion should be bloody quick when it's done!
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Cabramatta, NSW
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May 2002
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Re: Newbie question?
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Wed, 17 September 2003 01:11
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3S-GTE wouldn't be the conversion of choice for your first conversion!! It's DAMN difficult!
Why not try a 1G on for size first? Better bang for your buck. You only have to save up for half the time and it's a MUCH easier conversion.
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Location:
Adelaide
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September 2003
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Re: Newbie question?
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Wed, 17 September 2003 01:20
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Well Nark -->
had considered other engines, a friend bought me a half cut of an MR2 so I already have the 3sgte *I just can't put it in till I pay for it*
And I'm a big fan of the 3sgte motor --> big power available
because of the HP I want to achieve I figured a 3s would be the best choice too - plus being fairly new should have a longer 'parts available' time *aftermarket parts that is not standard*
but then I'm also quite partial to the 1g, 1j, and 2j as well
the other main aim that I want ==> to smoke my friends supercharged commonwhore without even batting an eyelid
whoot
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Cabramatta, NSW
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May 2002
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Re: Newbie question?
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Wed, 17 September 2003 01:33
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Pfftt.... Supercharged DunnyDoor.... 
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Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: Newbie question?
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Wed, 17 September 2003 01:41
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If you're using an 18R-C, try to get one from an RA23 is that will be a direct fit (obviously). HOWEVER, the exhaust manifold is quite different to the 18R-G so you can't use your extractors. You'll probably have to have your exhaust modified to suit as well.
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Location:
Adelaide
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September 2003
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Re: Newbie question?
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Wed, 17 September 2003 01:44
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Damn.
That's gonna put my costs up again --> eep.
Might see if my mechanic can source me an 18rg then
saves doing all the extra work right now
Cheers Norbie
Nark - I like that 'dunnydoor' --> like it very much.
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I supported Toymods
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Epping, Sydney
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: Newbie question?
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Wed, 17 September 2003 01:55
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they're not that much of a challenge to beat
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Location:
Adelaide
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September 2003
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Re: Newbie question?
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Wed, 17 September 2003 01:57
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heh its a supercharged vx ...so yeh shouldn't be too hard to beat - its more the whole:
"Milk and Juice come in 2 litres" issue - I just want to whoop my friends commodore and prove a point with a nice lil 2ltr
WHOOT WHOOT
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Location:
Perth
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November 2002
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Re: Newbie question?
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Wed, 17 September 2003 02:27
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then put in a 2tg and smoke him with 1600 
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