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Getting some interest - AE86 fans read on.....
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A mate and i are looking at developing and producing some AE86 performance products for the local market, We are not doing this to put huge inflated profits on the products but rather to assist fellow ae86 fans build their cars up to the potential that they have.
This is all in the planning stages at the moment, A few idea's have been raised but what i am looking for in this thread are some more ideas about what people with ae86's want?
We all dream of having decked out TRD/Cusco/RS*R etc etc cars but sadly most of the time funds dont allow us to get those exclusing tuning parts, or they are just too hard to come by.
So we aim to have similar sort of products that allow you to have the benifits of the name brand gear but at a more available option.
Some of the idea's so far would be.
-Strut braces, front and rear
-Traction brackets
-Roll Center Adjusters
-Adjustable panhand rod with Solid mounts
-Posibility of having a Adjustable and rod end 4 link rear end kit
-Adjustable lower control arms for the front
-Also, Spun Billet center's for Momo, Sparco etc wheels where the horn button goes, In this center would be the numbers 86 
These are the current idea's, Now its up to you guys to help me out with further and REASONABLE requests and idea's of what reasonable pricing you think might be for each product.
Cheers
Simon
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Thu, 16 October 2003 07:49
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well i think u should look at whitelines catologue or kmac, and compare pricing of what they got with what you got, and come to a fair pricing which will be cheaper then them or you think is fair. You should try and get other components such as custom Springs, or coilover kits.
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Thu, 16 October 2003 07:51
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Anodised aluminium front grills in the form of the levin grill, with AE86 etched into them.........just an idea!
Cheers
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Thu, 16 October 2003 07:57
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| sprintr wrote on Thu, 16 October 2003 17:49 |
well i think u should look at whitelines catologue or kmac, and compare pricing of what they got with what you got, and come to a fair pricing which will be cheaper then them or you think is fair. You should try and get other components such as custom Springs, or coilover kits.
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most of the whiteline gear does not feature what we have, nor do they have rod ends (rosejoints, solid mounts for thr clueless) in their parts.
so not really a similar comparison.
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Thu, 16 October 2003 10:36
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i think this is a great idea
a suggestion on the RCAs, (i have contemplated getting some made up for my car, but havent got around to it as the rest is so horrible at the moment)
you mah be able to sell them say 60mm thick, then people can get them machined down to whatever height they need, although it would probably not make much difference after having ANY RCAs put in. i would suggest not bothering with the camber adusting ones, as i din't like them, and you are planning on selling adjustable arms anyway.
maybeye sell complete poly bush kits? maybeye some bushes are better off being rubber? traction brackets are a good idea, as they would be fairly straughforward to make (i think)
strut braces definately, these should be fairly cheap to get made, but are cheaper to make yourself i suppoise.
extractors maybeye? (around 150 bucks would be nice)
EDIT: re-read your first post, i would hope to pay the following prices
RCAs - around 100
front strut brace - somehwhere between 50 and under 100 (do rear strut braces actually do anything in a sprinter besides hog up boot space?)
bush kit - 200 ish for the lot?????
thats about all i can think of now, good luck!
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Thu, 16 October 2003 10:39
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Hmmm ... perhaps some camber pillow top mounts?
Me suspects who your mate is ... tis amazing what creative juices get flowin when you're grounded. 
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Thu, 16 October 2003 10:49
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now we're talking idea's
we can do adjustable tops at this stage but pillowball's are a l;ittle harder
60mm is a fair chunk of an RCA' for one thing its hard getting material that size and then 2ndly its hard getting tooling to cut it. So we may make 25mm ones that are able to be joined together to make a 50mm one. they would use a spigot and bolting system.
bush kit: probaly wont do this just yet as w have all the stuff to fabricate metal products with not rubber or plastic
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Thu, 16 October 2003 10:50
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Short Shift kits?? Or is this NOT the type of things you mean?
Sorry if it isn't!
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Thu, 16 October 2003 10:55
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from what i have heard, short shifters on sprinters let you try to shift the gearboxes quicker than they want to, and arent a good thing. i dont minde the throw, and it makes a nice click noise so im happy.
60mm is pretty thick, alloy plate that big is ludicrously expensive, even 20mm plate is pretty expensive.
wouldnt be keen on buying two sets though, although i suppose only one on each side would have to be drilled and dowelled, so wouldn't cost twice as much.
50mm would be a good "ideal" size (for me)
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Thu, 16 October 2003 11:10
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thanks guys... keep it coming!
as for the short shift kit. it MAY be an idea, Ive had one before and they are not bad but they do kill gearbox synbcro's quickly.
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Thu, 16 October 2003 11:26
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yea ive got a short shift, its a little hard to change gears, but is a lot better throw and makes a nice noise
yea my 2nd synchro is going a little I think hehe
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Thu, 16 October 2003 11:54
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Shows my knowledge here  but.... how do short shift kits screw up g'boxes??
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Thu, 16 October 2003 13:25
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the nature of the short throw shifter forces the gearbox to change gears at a much faster rate then it is suppose to. During hard driving you would be changing gears hard and this murders the syncros in no time since the box was never designed for this sort of shift speed!
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Thu, 16 October 2003 13:40
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are you guys going to eventually press some nice forged rims? that would be nice! 
i think developing an exhaust kit for the 86 would sell heaps easy. a no fuss bolt into place item
maybe a cold air intake system?
nice billet oil caps?
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Thu, 16 October 2003 15:22
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bolt on adaptor kit for the ae101/111 throttles to an 86kw and 100kw head
ie > plate, flutes , throttles already modded in 1 kit ready to attach/ basically a striaght forward bolt on kit, minus an ecu
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Thu, 16 October 2003 21:46
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some fiberglass rear hatces whould be nice i been looking into this and found a place in japan doing them 700 doller but i think if i can contact a couple places we could get them cheaper and mybe cheaper with a group buy ???
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Re: Getting some interest - AE86 fans read on.....
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Fri, 17 October 2003 01:18
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We'll be starting with metal products first
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Fri, 17 October 2003 02:11
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Machined boss kits that actually look nice and are a good length, alot dont clear the indicator lever well. Shouldnt be too hard.....Maybe the splines but thats it.
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Fri, 17 October 2003 04:50
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simon, had a good idea today
you should make wheel spacers/hub adapters
the spacers would be easier, i would suggest making them from say 30-35mm plate, as this would allow you to use rims that are 4 by 114.3 and 38mm offset - early silvia wheels, i think these are among the most common, at least a lot easier to find than ones that bolt straight on.
(would need longer wheel studs, but i think these are pretty easy to get for sprinters)
hub adapters are a little different, and more legal as the adapter bolts onto the hub, and the wheel bolts onto the adapter, and you could go from 4 by 114.3 to 4 by 100 or whatever. there is a fair bit more in making hub adapters though, still fairly do-able.
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Fri, 17 October 2003 05:06
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Hey Simon
Have you given any thought to coilovers? or is it too painful. It'd be nice to source some without having to part with an arm and a leg in the process 
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Fri, 17 October 2003 05:56
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as for the short shift kit. it MAY be an idea, Ive had one before and they are not bad but they do kill gearbox synbcro's quickly.
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says who??
ive had a custom made one in for nearly 3 years on the same T50 and have had no wear on the syncro's
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Fri, 17 October 2003 09:25
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hmm, what about adjustable cam gear things (dont know the name) or a bolt in roll cage?
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Fri, 17 October 2003 10:11
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Maybe u're just a granny shifter 1rally jk of course
Sounds like a mad idea, and for some reason I just feel like helping out.
So if you need any help, maybe like a melbourne branch to help organise orders etc? Feel like adding a contribution to the aus toyota community or something lol.
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Fri, 17 October 2003 22:27
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what about adjustable cam gear things
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I have 3 sets being made up ( having said that hes been telling me next week for two months now  ) two of which will be available for those interested. they will be a fully balanced item with 10 one degree markings made from 7000 grade alloy. rough cost will be $250 with an exchange set at this stage.
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Sun, 19 October 2003 21:24
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well with the fiberglass i was going to ring up some plac4es and see if they will do it and get some gruop buys going ie rear hatch, bonnet with vent and mybe some other stuff like side skirts and rear bar front bar ect
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Mon, 20 October 2003 04:28
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wasn't there some dude up there that's already running somthing similar?
like ae86world.com or somethin.......
seems that great ideas these days with the ae86 have stretched their 20 yr life
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Mon, 20 October 2003 07:11
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As far as im aware John wants to concentrate on his soarers & is steering away from specialising with sprinters hence why that link wont work. Soarer21 on this forum if you want to clarify
sorry to hijack Simon
Keep up the good work though...no shortage of interest from the keen sprinter enthusiats
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Mon, 20 October 2003 12:18
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ae86world.com will soon be back online.
under new management with lots more goodies. well keep u all up to date.
again sorry simon, great ideas.
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Mon, 20 October 2003 13:06
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Yep, I second the adjustable camber strut tops, and also a full roll cage or half cage. The aluminium front grill sounds good, too, although i imagine it would be hard to fabricate mounting points on it. I've also heard conflisting opinions about the good of rear strut braces on AE86's... If they are worthwhile, then I give them the thumbs up too.
By the way, I cam across another small company website (USA based, I think) for a AE86 parts that might be useful for another point of comparison on prices if you don't know about them:
http://ggtyler.com/index.html
However, I just tried the link out now and got nothing... maybe the place has folded?
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Sun, 26 October 2003 10:24
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gabriel is a f'ing dude!
really good service!
really great communication!
and damn good products!
good shipping rates also!
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Mon, 27 October 2003 00:30
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Anyone in Australia making 30 - 35mm non camber adjusting RCA's?
Simon you thinking of making any of these?
Thanks
Joel
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Mon, 27 October 2003 00:54
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Thanks for the correction on the URL, toyotaboy. Glad to see they're still in business - they offer some good stuff...
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Mon, 27 October 2003 08:41
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np...option.
anything i can do for the 86 crew!!
lets keep this thread going..
btw simon.. how about those braces for the under the front gaurds? you still want some?
it'll be tight....but i could get some made up this week, and bring 'em up to you on the weekend, if Rhett's car doesn't get sold before then??
let me know asap.
also, i know this might sound a bit corny, and not actually performance/drift-stiff related, but how about some sort of bracket which can be screwed into the roof, where the interior light goes, so you can mount a video camera on drift days??
i dont know...might be too easy for ppl to just make themselves
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also, i know this might sound a bit corny, and not actually performance/drift-stiff related, but how about some sort of bracket which can be screwed into the roof, where the interior light goes, so you can mount a video camera on drift days??
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damn fine idea toyotaboy...id certainly purchase one
How in depth are looking at getting simon? would traction brackets be on the menu?
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Wed, 29 October 2003 15:20
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rice, rice, baby....
uh...excuse me...copyright breach!!
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Thu, 30 October 2003 13:04
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its not copyright they ran out in 1998
and how is it rice to want the stock badging?
fools and their "rice" labelling of anything.....
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Fri, 31 October 2003 04:49
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| ae86drift wrote on Fri, 31 October 2003 00:04 |
and how is it rice to want the stock badging?
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That's what I wanna know???? 
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Fri, 31 October 2003 11:33
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it's rice.
because, if you own/drive an Australian Sprinter, you don't own an Apex - and advertising your car as something it isn't - and that's rice.
if you own a JDM AE86(like me ) and your car is an Apex(like mine ), and you want the badges, etc., that is not rice.
it's like all the dickheads out there in their Executive Commodores, with 'SS' and 'H  SV' badges all over them.
it's rice.
and for your information, Toyota still makes the stickers. I bought some last month. Therefore, it is a copyright breach. especially if you are selling them, that aren't genuine Toyota parts.
copyright law states that the manufacturer of a product has to have ceased production and sales of said materials for a period of 50 years. not 5 years. - unless you have permission of course...
Not having a go at you dude...just sayin' is all. But at least your stickers are cheaper than genuine Toyota one's. Even at my price, and I work at a Toyota dealership.
And bitch....don't call me a fool. 
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| toyotaboy wrote on Fri, 31 October 2003 22:33 |
if you own a JDM AE86(like me ) and your car is an Apex(like mine )
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These two comments and your signature says it all.
He is right guys.... he is not a tool.......... He is an elitist wanker!
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| SPEEDCORE wrote on Sat, 01 November 2003 16:59 |
He is an elitist wanker!
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hey....you're either a wanker, or a liar.
that's the end of my input into this thread.
I wasn't having a go at ae86drift for making the stickers. If you notice where i originally said 'copyright breach', the after it implies that i was joking. if you're gonna arc up about a joke, dude, you need a life.
Also, don't get me wrong about the 'rice' labelling. I'm the last person to label someone a ricer for having stickers on their car....IF it is what it says.
I don't think it's rice to have RS*R/Cusco/TRD stickers on your car, IF you have their products on/in your car.
If your car is an Australian Sprinter, and you put an APEX sticker on it....that's rice. Pure and simple.
Call me a wanker all you like, dude. At least i can come up with a better retort than...'oh....ummm....he's an elitest wanker...'
At least you know how to use adjectives
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LMAO Explain to me how I am a liar??
Go back and read your post, getting on your soap box because you have a Trueno.... and then to finish it off, your sig saying "trueno elite club".
Then you question why people are calling you an eliteist wanker......
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Tue, 04 November 2003 08:36
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ladies ladies relax!
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| Simon-MrRx7 wrote on Tue, 04 November 2003 19:36 |
ladies ladies relax!
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I'm looking forward to meeting up with you Simon..... Daz has talked to me about ya... yes yes all good things
Another couple weeks and I should be out in the Sprinter... Fingers crossed!
PS: Keep us up to date with this little PARTS project of yours!
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has he? *blushes* aww thats so kind of him 
I'd like to meet up with a few ppl but since i dont have a licence atm its a little on the difficult side.
im currently painting my car so its going to look a bit different!
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Getting rid of the black triangle??
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I wasn't having a go at ae86drift for making the stickers. If you notice where i originally said 'copyright breach', the after it implies that i was joking. if you're gonna arc up about a joke, dude, you need a life.
err what i say?
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ps can i be in the trueno elite club
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| SPEEDCORE wrote on Wed, 05 November 2003 17:13 |
Getting rid of the black triangle??
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sure am... wait and see what eventuates
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oh and i dont totally agree that its rice
if youve done an upgrade or whatever i think its ok
even if you havent, its ncie to dream eh?
at least its in the same ballpark
and noone is aud got the "levin" stickers
i rekon it will look nice
but thats my opinion
im not about to put a HKS sticker on my car
bt if i wanted to i would put a gtapex even though my ar is a GTV i think the current specssurpass a GTApex by far
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| Simon-MrRx7 wrote on Wed, 05 November 2003 23:40 |
| SPEEDCORE wrote on Wed, 05 November 2003 17:13 |
Getting rid of the black triangle??
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sure am... wait and see what eventuates
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Oh my god....... I get all flustered, hot and bothered when I hear another sprinter having a makeover.........
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just digging up this old thread
wanna see if anything ever eventuated? if so, id love to get some nice 86 bits
please let me know!
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yes some things have eventuated, but not to the same sort of degree that we has planned..
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hehe
steve your an elitist fag hahaha
ner-ner! ner-ner nerrr!
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bastard...
love that ner-ner bit..
btw...did you manage to find out how to put air in your tyres??
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Re: Getting some interest - AE86 fans read on.....
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Sun, 02 May 2004 13:18
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hah shut the fuckup
yes i did
took it to the shop and they refit the tyre using the machine
ever tried to reseal a 185 tyre onto a 7.5inch rim? with no tools?
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Re: Getting some interest - AE86 fans read on.....
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Sun, 02 May 2004 13:20
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checka your email too steve
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Re: Getting some interest - AE86 fans read on.....
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Sun, 02 May 2004 13:31
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done and done
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