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icon8.gif  my car keeps zapping me :| Fri, 17 October 2003 08:09 Go to next message
for some unknown reason my car keeps zapping me when i get out and touch the door. It has only been doing it for the past 2 weeks and it is really pissing me off! some times it nearly hurts it gets me that good. I have no idea what is causing it because i havn't played with anything for a long time. As far as non standard electrical things go, I have a cd player, amp & an alarm. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
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Re: my car keeps zapping me :| Fri, 17 October 2003 08:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
did you start wearing different shoes in the last 2 weeks??

sometimes you can avoid the static zap by putting your feet on the ground when you get out, while still holding the door, then close the door, with the other hand....i think that works??
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Re: my car keeps zapping me :| Fri, 17 October 2003 08:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Fit an antistatic strap and stop being a bitch Razz
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Re: my car keeps zapping me :| Fri, 17 October 2003 08:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
argh i hate it!
it happens in my mums car (new rolla),
so i dont touch the door anymore, i shut the door on hte glass, so i dont get zapped
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Re: my car keeps zapping me :| Fri, 17 October 2003 08:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
but those straps look so gay.... Razz

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Re: my car keeps zapping me :| Fri, 17 October 2003 08:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
toyotaboy wrote on Fri, 17 October 2003 18:22

but those straps look so gay.... Razz

So fit it under the car where it cant be seen Rolling Eyes
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Re: my car keeps zapping me :| Fri, 17 October 2003 08:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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but those straps look so gay....


no matter where you put them they look gay.. haha, every time I see one I am like, "GAY".

so I get zapped Smile
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Re: my car keeps zapping me :| Fri, 17 October 2003 08:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
fair enough Cool
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Re: my car keeps zapping me :| Fri, 17 October 2003 08:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
This happens to me to!!! so fucking annoying. Its been happening to me for ages. Like 4months. The small zaps I can handle but sometimes I get some big fuckers.

The way i avoid it is by closing the door with the window.
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Re: my car keeps zapping me :| Fri, 17 October 2003 09:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
when u are getting out of the car hold the key in your hand and touch the lock barrel with the key, u will discharge thru the key, see a nice bright blue spark but u wont get shocked Cool
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Re: my car keeps zapping me :| Fri, 17 October 2003 09:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
RobST162 wrote on Fri, 17 October 2003 18:27

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but those straps look so gay....


no matter where you put them they look gay.. haha, every time I see one I am like, "GAY".

so I get zapped Smile

You must have your car raised to the max if you can easily see it when fitted underneath Rolling Eyes
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Re: my car keeps zapping me :| Fri, 17 October 2003 11:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Its a weird one alright.. my 'expensive' cars such as all the supras i've had over the years dont do it. But all the cheap crappy cars (Fords, Toyota Avensis, Renault etc) all do it.

I've found the bext way to avoid it is clench your fist and tap the bottom of your hand on the roof. You still get the discharge but its over a large area and you dont feel it at all (although you will look a bit odd every time you get out of your car and tap the roof like you love it).

Dont get out and avoid touching the car, you'll just get the shock from something else when you go inside the house.
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Re: my car keeps zapping me :| Fri, 17 October 2003 11:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
HedgehogSandwich wrote on Fri, 17 October 2003 21:23

Its a weird one alright.. my 'expensive' cars such as all the supras i've had over the years dont do it.

This means the build quality is not too good! ie the pannels are not earthed the way they should be!
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But all the cheap crappy cars (Fords, Toyota Avensis, Renault etc) all do it.

Maybe they are not that crappy after all Rolling Eyes
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Re: my car keeps zapping me :| Fri, 17 October 2003 11:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ive never been zapped by any car
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Re: my car keeps zapping me :| Fri, 17 October 2003 11:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Thats cause you have girly cotton fingers Razz
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Re: my car keeps zapping me :| Fri, 17 October 2003 11:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dude honestly like that other dude said just touch the body of the car as you put your foot on the ground and you wont get it.

How do i know this?

My car has been doing the same for the last 2 weeks aswell. Cool
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Re: my car keeps zapping me :| Fri, 17 October 2003 11:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You must have your car raised to the max if you can easily see it when fitted underneath


hmmm.. my celica ain't THAT tall Razz I think I can 'sense' them.. haha
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Re: my car keeps zapping me :| Fri, 17 October 2003 12:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Cool1... are you saying the supra is built worse than a sierra?? haha.. yeah right Very Happy

Perhaps the manufacturers found a way of stopping it and built it into the supra and other such cars?

However, The most likely explanation is down to the materials used in the seats and carpets of the more expensive cars. The supra (and others like it) with wool carpets and suede/leather may be less likely to build up the charge.. yet synthetic fibres such as nylon/polyester used in the cheaper cars may contribute massively to the problem.

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Re: my car keeps zapping me :| Fri, 17 October 2003 12:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
my supra does it to me on occasion - only with one of my pairs of shoes tho.
just bump your arse against the back panel (or back door if its a 4-door) and quit whining Razz
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Re: my car keeps zapping me :| Fri, 17 October 2003 12:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
You believe what you will, but I can tell you now that having leather seats isn't going to earth out your body panels Very Happy
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Re: my car keeps zapping me :| Fri, 17 October 2003 12:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Its not the body panels that cause the problem, its the way the charge is generated in the first place.

The static (which is what the spark is, im sure i dont need to tell you that though) is generated in your body and clothes due to the friction when you get out of your car or when youre driving. If you slide out of nylon seats when you get out of your car, or your feet are moving around on nylon/polyester carpet when youre driving then thats when the charge is built up.

Only certain materials build up the charge. Wool doesnt (well not much anyway), neither does leather.

So, if you've got wool or leather materials in the seats and carpets, you cant get the charge in the first place, and you cant get zapped. Make sense? Very Happy
That's why you *will* get zapped on the cheaper cars, as they tend to use more man made fibres in seats and carpets, which increase the chance of the charge building up.

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Re: my car keeps zapping me :| Fri, 17 October 2003 12:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sorry I must be mistaken, the dry air and winds blowing accross the car doesnt cause static!!
Ok thats clear, i'm sorry Rolling Eyes
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Re: my car keeps zapping me :| Fri, 17 October 2003 12:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Just stop wearing your girlfriends silk underware !!!!
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Re: my car keeps zapping me :| Fri, 17 October 2003 12:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I'm sure it does.. but that gets discharged in the body of the car pretty much instantly doesnt it?

by the way, i'm not having a go.. just civilised discussion Very Happy
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Re: my car keeps zapping me :| Fri, 17 October 2003 12:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
If your body panels are not earthed how can your body discharge on them? Most "expensive" cars dont have all the body panels earthed, like door skins and guards! For example the door skins are normally glued on and the guards are normally insulated! This is why dont get zapped on these cars, this is also the main cause of corrosion and rust!
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Re: my car keeps zapping me :| Fri, 17 October 2003 12:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I see what youre saying, but two things..

1. If the charge cant get generated in the first place, theres no prob... so were back to materials.
2. Havent you got your cheap and expnsive mixed up? Surely all the cheap cars panels are glued together rather than the expensive ones.

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Re: my car keeps zapping me :| Fri, 17 October 2003 13:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
HedgehogSandwich wrote on Fri, 17 October 2003 22:55

2. Havent you got your cheap and expnsive mixed up? Surely all the cheap cars panels are glued together rather than the expensive ones.



No. The so called cheap cars have the door skins welded and the guards bolted directly on.
The "expensive" cars use glue to try and stop vibrations! These expensive car manufactures dont care about build quality or how long the car will last, they just want the car to sound good on the show room floor!
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Re: my car keeps zapping me :| Fri, 17 October 2003 13:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
heh heh, i went to a seminar by a guy from the UK (Rudd) who specialises in automotive composites...

an example was the Aston Martin "Vanquish" (iirc)
aluminium space frame, 1 piece carbon fibre trans tunnel (thats one big sheet of CF!!) etc etc.
all the structural parts are either aluminium or carbon fibre/epoxy, and the non-structural parts are GRP. the composite panels are glued to the aluminium frame...
gluing can actually be much stronger and give more rigidity than having spot welds every few inches on the bendy edges of sheet metal panels...

as for zapping, if you have fluffy polyester seat covers (like i do for rego time) and you slide in and out wearing cotton or synthetics.. oh man... ZAAAAAAAP!!! but with just the plain silvia seats, no zaps at all!! i vote for the clothing zap.. wearing anything new recently??

then again, when air humidity is low for a while, thing start charging up, simply cos the surface static that is on everything doesn't dissipate via air moisture...

take it like a man dammit Cool
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Re: my car keeps zapping me :| Sat, 18 October 2003 00:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Build up of static works in a number of the ways already mentioned. The key to your problem (and a lot of other people's) is the difference between the charge build up on yourself and on the body of the car. This becomes more noticeble in dry weather periods because the air is more highly charged and less of the car's static charge is able to dissipate via the air. It's hard to put your foot on the ground first when you're getting out of the car so as has been said, open the door and use the back of your hand to push the door open. There are a lot less nerves there to get affected by the zap. Try it, it works. After a while you'll get in the habit of doing it automatically. Oh ... if it's really bad put on an anti-static strap but make sure you attach it to a part of the car that is earthed to the body, not on a plastic bumper bar or something similar as some brightsparks do. Very Happy
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Re: my car keeps zapping me :| Sat, 18 October 2003 02:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I think i've worked it out Smile I got new shoes about 2 weeks ago Wink

Also regarding what scorpion said about warmer dryer whether, it has also been a lot dryer and warmer here in the past 2 weeks.

I might just have to drive bare foot Smile
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Re: my car keeps zapping me :| Sat, 18 October 2003 15:37 Go to previous message
hmmm...

and i thought i was the only one to get zapped by my rolla! haha, its good to see theres heaps of others out there suffering the same fate... Surprised

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