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Re: Howd "these" look on an ma61??
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Mon, 27 October 2003 13:06
 
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they look pretty good. Would like to see a photoshopped picture of some on an ma61. The centre should be bigger tho
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Re: Howd "these" look on an ma61??
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Mon, 27 October 2003 13:11
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i think you've found a winner ed
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Mon, 27 October 2003 13:13
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wow, that does look good doesnt it!
i really have to convince the guy NOT to sell them with the car now 
ed
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I supported Toymods
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Re: Howd "these" look on an ma61??
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Mon, 27 October 2003 13:39
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There is no option for:
"My eyes!!!!The goggles do nothing!!"
WTF is up with that kit?
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Re: Howd "these" look on an ma61??
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Mon, 27 October 2003 13:44
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i dunno
but it was the best side-on photo of a supra i could find
but was obviously not the best supra
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I supported Toymods
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Re: Howd "these" look on an ma61??
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Mon, 27 October 2003 13:45
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Back in the 80's. Thankfully, the wheels don't look too bad, the caps need to go though.
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melb
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Re: Howd "these" look on an ma61??
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Mon, 27 October 2003 13:46
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I had a set nealy identicle to that on my red ma61 but they didnt have centres like those , that type of wheel suits the blockyness of the ma61, well thats what ithink anyway
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Re: Howd "these" look on an ma61??
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Mon, 27 October 2003 13:50
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dave, ignore the damn kit, and look at the wheels ONLY!!
you really dont like em that much?
imagine the 205's + wilwood under there
cheers
ed
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Re: Howd "these" look on an ma61??
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Mon, 27 October 2003 14:13
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Brisbane
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Re: Howd "these" look on an ma61??
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Mon, 27 October 2003 21:56
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Not bad... not bad at all. They need to be at least 8" though; 7" is for pussies. 
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c'town, NSW
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Re: Howd "these" look on an ma61??
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Mon, 27 October 2003 21:58
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we may have a goer ed.
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Adelaide
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Re: Howd "these" look on an ma61??
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Mon, 27 October 2003 22:33
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They look pretty good, but to get the correct rolling diameter, you need 235/45x17 tyres, and these need to go on 8" or 8.5" rims. The smallest legally allowed are 7.5" for those tyres.
Don't forget the 94 load rating as well
Cheers
Michael B
PS, If need be, I have a summary of what the correct rolling wheel diameter info (and rim sizes required), but can't attach it  Anyone know how ?
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Brisbane
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Adelaide
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Re: Howd "these" look on an ma61??
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Mon, 27 October 2003 23:07
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In accordance with the "Universal Tyre Fitment Guide", the "Approved Rim Codes for use on Passenger Vehicles" states taht the 235/45x17 recommended rim width is 8.0" and 8.5", and the permitted rim widths are 7.5" to 9.0"
This book is the industry standard for all tyre fitters etc., so technically speaking, the place that fitted them should not have, and yes, technically they are illegal
Cheers
Michael B
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Re: Howd "these" look on an ma61??
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Mon, 27 October 2003 23:12
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| bbaacchhyy wrote on Tue, 28 October 2003 10:07 |
In accordance with the "Universal Tyre Fitment Guide", the "Approved Rim Codes for use on Passenger Vehicles" states taht the 235/45x17 recommended rim width is 8.0" and 8.5", and the permitted rim widths are 7.5" to 9.0"
This book is the industry standard for all tyre fitters etc., so technically speaking, the place that fitted them should not have, and yes, technically they are illegal
Cheers
Michael B
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Ahh well.. the widest u could get mine in was 7".. silly offset on my soarer..
doesent matter me though.. they ride ohhh so nicely ..
i doubt cops will notice since theres no mentioning how wide they are on the rim itself
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Re: Howd "these" look on an ma61??
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Mon, 27 October 2003 23:13
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oh and sorry.. didnt mean to thread jack
I reckon those 17's would look great on an ma61... mainly cause its
rare as to see an ma61 with any sort of decent rims
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Re: Howd "these" look on an ma61??
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Mon, 27 October 2003 23:49
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i hardly think most tyre places even blink when asked to put tyre X on rim Y of car Z
all they see is the $$ - and im happy to oblige 
that said - the guy selling tehse bloody wheels is actually now selling the car theyre on! i have to try and talk him out of letting the wheels go with it... sell them separately man!! good god!
and why is it most comments here are positive, yet the poll says 'meh' ??
cheers
ed
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Re: Howd "these" look on an ma61??
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Mon, 27 October 2003 23:54
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cant u get some like +25 offset rims and just space them out to it?
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Re: Howd "these" look on an ma61??
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Mon, 27 October 2003 23:57
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spacers?
**eeuuugghhhhhhh**
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Re: Howd "these" look on an ma61??
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Tue, 28 October 2003 00:17
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My rims are +25 offset and my cars offset is +20.. they sit pretty far out though
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Re: Howd "these" look on an ma61??
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Tue, 28 October 2003 00:47
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| bbaacchhyy wrote on Tue, 28 October 2003 07:07 |
In accordance with the "Universal Tyre Fitment Guide", the "Approved Rim Codes for use on Passenger Vehicles" states taht the 235/45x17 recommended rim width is 8.0" and 8.5", and the permitted rim widths are 7.5" to 9.0"
This book is the industry standard for all tyre fitters etc., so technically speaking, the place that fitted them should not have, and yes, technically they are illegal
Cheers
Michael B
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It funny you say that, you should see how many people with 265's on the factory 7" rims I know of
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Adelaide
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September 2003
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Re: Howd "these" look on an ma61??
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Tue, 28 October 2003 00:48
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Ed,
I sympathise with the mag problem, I am going through the same process. One set I have spied are CSA Gladiator made in a 16x8" and to fit 225/60x16 tyres, but the pesky 94 load rating rears its ugly head. I'll try and see what approval I can get from the engineer.
My other choice (and this means I can avoid the 5 stud conversion) is to fit 16x7" Performance Superlites - cost $240 each
In the meantime, I'll keep trolling
But here are some others that will work on ebay http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&a mp;item=2439747506
Cheers
Michael B
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Re: Howd "these" look on an ma61??
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Tue, 28 October 2003 00:51
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I was soo cut when i heard ma61's being+8 offset... since its like the brother car to my soarer(floor pan and all)... when i found out mine was +20 i was overjoyed..so i got the rims i wanted but they are only 7 inch cause its more of a fwd offset
there should be plenty to fit ma61 in japan?
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Re: Howd "these" look on an ma61??
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Tue, 28 October 2003 00:53
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The only reason your car is a +20 and not a +8 as well is because your rims were only 6" wide. Mk2's (not in Australia though) came with your 15x6" factory rims as well in a +20mm offset.
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Melbourne
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May 2002
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Re: Howd "these" look on an ma61??
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Tue, 28 October 2003 01:28
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Way to go! good air flow for brakes, not to ugly and no SVO stamps
Allan
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Re: Howd "these" look on an ma61??
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Tue, 28 October 2003 05:20
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| Jag7799 wrote on Tue, 28 October 2003 11:51 |
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there should be plenty to fit ma61 in japan?
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nope
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Re: Howd "these" look on an ma61??
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Tue, 28 October 2003 05:36
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well cool, they do look the goods!
265's on stock rims? *raises hand* 
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Re: Howd "these" look on an ma61??
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Tue, 28 October 2003 05:41
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Holy crap! The stock 225's bulge out a bit much for my liking, but 265's must look silly! 
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Adelaide
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Re: Howd "these" look on an ma61??
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Tue, 28 October 2003 05:46
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People have mentioned 265's on the stock rims. 265 what ????? 
What is the profile, as it has a HUGE impact on the recommended and permitted rim widths.
I am presuming thet they are 265/50x14 ? What brand and pattern ?
Curious
Michael B
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Re: Howd "these" look on an ma61??
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Tue, 28 October 2003 06:01
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Haha they give you the dished look 
Tops for traction though
Yokohama Radial 352 265/50/14 anywhere up to $260 a tyre
Running 245/50/14 on the front, same tyre
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Adelaide
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Re: Howd "these" look on an ma61??
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Tue, 28 October 2003 06:05
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Thanks for the info BlackSupra,
Funnily enough, the Tyre Fitment guide does not have this size mentioned ????
Still expensive as well !! Any pics of what they look like ? I'd be comfartable with the 245's, but 265's are stretching the friendship a little though IMHO.
Ooroo
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Re: Howd "these" look on an ma61??
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Tue, 28 October 2003 06:13
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I bought them on the car and yes there is a little bit of sidewall roll, but it makes the shagged suspension seem better than it is.
Went to find a digi cam but it was not home
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Brisbane
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July 2002
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Re: Howd "these" look on an ma61??
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Tue, 28 October 2003 06:41
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how wide are the stock ma61 rims?
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Lost in the K hole
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Re: Howd "these" look on an ma61??
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Tue, 28 October 2003 06:48
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7"
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Re: Howd "these" look on an ma61??
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Wed, 29 October 2003 00:16
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ARGH!! they look really good!!
pity hes trying to sell the freakin car!! hope it doesnt sell and i can grab the wheels! HELP!
cheers
ed
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c'town, NSW
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Re: Howd "these" look on an ma61??
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Wed, 29 October 2003 00:37
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now i see that pic Ed, me likey very much!!!
source some shit stockies and hubacps for him and tell him t sell the mags to u!!
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Lost in the K hole
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Re: Howd "these" look on an ma61??
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Wed, 29 October 2003 01:13
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well, you wanted dish rob!!
i just emailed him trying to be coersive, but im not holding my breath. he wants $14500 for the whole car, and its in tamworth, so i dont know what his chances are of selling it at the desired price. he said if he doesnt get what hes asking, hell separate the wheels for me
or, if it doesnt sell at all in the next 2 weeks, i can also have the wheels. infact, he said if he didnt advertise it with a photo (and thus have ppl expecting them when they come and look at the car) he wouldve sold them to me
ed
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Re: Howd "these" look on an ma61??
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Wed, 29 October 2003 05:07
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hehehe...
quote "ive got some stockies to put back on there, the add only runs 4 three weeks so if i havnt sold the car by then theyre yours or if someone trys to talk me down, which im pretty sure they will theyre yours, sounds like you would get someenjoyment out of them so id love to sell them to ya.ill keep u informed whats happening"
woowoooo!!!!!!!!!!!
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Ballarat, Victoria
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March 2003
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Re: Howd "these" look on an ma61??
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Wed, 29 October 2003 06:12
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nice work, they will look very nicu.
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Brisbane
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July 2002
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Re: Howd "these" look on an ma61??
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Wed, 29 October 2003 06:24
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this is just a stupid question.. but couldnt u grind away at the back of any rim to lessen the offset?
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I supported Toymods
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Re: Howd "these" look on an ma61??
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Wed, 29 October 2003 07:08
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To lessen the offset you'd need to increase the amount of material on the back of the rim. Normal spacers aren't legal and proper hub extenders are more expensive.
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Re: Howd "these" look on an ma61??
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Wed, 29 October 2003 09:32
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yeah i read how offset works but i didnt really get the gist.. all i know is my offset is 20 which has +25 rims on it
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I supported Toymods
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Re: Howd "these" look on an ma61??
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Wed, 29 October 2003 09:58
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Think about it this way.
Looking at the rim side on (ie. across the 7"), draw an imaginary line down the rim. Now draw another parallel line at the mounting face of the rim going around. The offset is the distance between the two lines. Understand?
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Re: Howd "these" look on an ma61??
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Wed, 29 October 2003 10:07
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so then how does negative offset work?
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I supported Toymods
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Re: Howd "these" look on an ma61??
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Wed, 29 October 2003 10:10
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The mounting face on a negative offset wheel is to the "left" of the centreline (assuming you're looking left to right).
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Sydney
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February 2003
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Re: Howd "these" look on an ma61??
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Wed, 29 October 2003 10:33
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just think big positive offset rims, like most nowadays, are basically flat faced, ie. the spokes are even with the sidewall of the tyre,
so lower the offset the further in u go, ie. 'deepdish', rims the lower the number gets.
once you go further in than halfway it becomes a negative number.
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I supported Toymods
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Re: Howd "these" look on an ma61??
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Wed, 29 October 2003 10:36
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The problem with thinking of it that way is they aren't dished if they have offset, they just have more material on the back.
These ones are close to +6mm offset, and they look exactly the same as the +40mm ones.
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Sydney
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February 2003
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I supported Toymods
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Re: Howd "these" look on an ma61??
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Wed, 29 October 2003 10:43
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Yep, thats a perfect picture to describe, I was just too lazy to go find one
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Sydney
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February 2003
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Re: Howd "these" look on an ma61??
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Wed, 29 October 2003 10:46
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haha please no need to praise me, i do what i can 
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Melbourne
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May 2002
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Re: Howd "these" look on an ma61??
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Wed, 29 October 2003 14:13
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considering the price an AU falcon go's for he has no hope of that price on the car! an AU sedan can go for as little as $11,000
Allan
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Brisbane
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Re: Howd "these" look on an ma61??
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Thu, 30 October 2003 00:11
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thanks for the explanation guys.. i prety much get it now
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Adelaide
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September 2003
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Re: Howd "these" look on an ma61??
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Thu, 30 October 2003 00:59
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I want to run a similar poll on the wheels I want to put on mine, but can't find a way of attaching pics
How is this done. I can do it in parts for sale, but not in this section ?
HELP !!!!!
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Brisbane
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July 2002
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Re: Howd "these" look on an ma61??
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Thu, 30 October 2003 03:26
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u could be a bastard and just make a mock thread in the for sale seciton and link to it in here lol
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Sydney
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February 2003
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Re: Howd "these" look on an ma61??
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Thu, 30 October 2003 04:28
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yeh u can only insert attachments in the f/s section otherwise get em hosted..
i can do it if u want, swing the pics over and ill put em up when u post a thread.
christopha@optusnet.com.au
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Lost in the K hole
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Re: Howd "these" look on an ma61??
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Fri, 31 October 2003 02:07
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am proud new owner of above wheels
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Adelaide
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September 2003
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Re: Howd "these" look on an ma61??
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Fri, 31 October 2003 02:34
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Well done. Now time to source them MS123 rear hubs.....
Or have you got them already ? If so, what price ?
Cheers
MB
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Lost in the K hole
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May 2002
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Re: Howd "these" look on an ma61??
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Fri, 31 October 2003 02:48
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entire rear end assembly, $60 per side
no discs tho - so have to go shopping again.
i also need a ma61/ra65 rear assembly so i can rig this stuff up 'off' the car...
anyone?
ed
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Brisbane
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Re: Howd "these" look on an ma61??
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Fri, 31 October 2003 04:18
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I know where there's one... you don't mind driving to the Gold Coast do you?
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Howd "these" look on an ma61??
