| Author | Topic |
|---|
Location:
Lost in the K hole
Registered:
May 2002
|
|
|
Location:
Bayside Melbourne.
Registered:
May 2003
|
|
Re: Ed's 7M-GE ... Pics
|
Sun, 23 November 2003 10:06
 
|
 |
Oh man and I was planning on recycling these pants tomorrow... I can't now, they're all sticky. 
|
|
|
I supported Toymods
Banned User
Location:
Brisbane
Registered:
May 2002
|
|
Re: Ed's 7M-GE ... Pics
|
Sun, 23 November 2003 10:10
|
|
Very nice  But its a pitty you copied my idea with the yellow block  
|
|
|
I supported Toymods
Location:
I renounced punctuation
Registered:
May 2002
|
|
Re: Ed's 7M-GE ... Pics
|
Sun, 23 November 2003 10:10
|
|
|
Now we just need to find some cams for you....TODA have some nice 7MGE ones (304 degrees and 11 mm lift). One small problem was the price tag.....1K EACH. They also had a lovely shim under bucket kit for about 2K.
|
|
|
Location:
Lost in the K hole
Registered:
May 2002
|
|
Re: Ed's 7M-GE ... Pics
|
Sun, 23 November 2003 10:19
|
|
yeah...
berserk cams are for the next engine. the 7m will have enough trouble fighting its way to 7000 rpm as it is. and for the few hp it would achieve in the mid rpm band - wasnt worth the dollars 
should be interesting to see fire up in current form none-the-less 
cheers
ed
|
|
|
Location:
Brisbane
Registered:
May 2002
|
|
Re: Ed's 7M-GE ... Pics
|
Sun, 23 November 2003 10:24
|
|
Looks good... damn good for a 7M!
|
|
|
Location:
sydney
Registered:
June 2003
|
|
Re: Ed's 7M-GE ... Pics
|
Sun, 23 November 2003 10:27
|
|
|
thats looks so good. anyway where did u get the TGK tuned mandrel exhaust manifold and for how much?? u can PM me if u want
|
|
|
I supported Toymods
Location:
Epping, Sydney
Registered:
May 2002
|
|
Re: Ed's 7M-GE ... Pics
|
Sun, 23 November 2003 10:29
|
|
that is beautiful ed 
|
|
|
Location:
Lost in the K hole
Registered:
May 2002
|
|
|
Registered:
August 2002
|
|
Re: Ed's 7M-GE ... Pics
|
Sun, 23 November 2003 11:24
|
|
Pity its not a 2J
Looks very sexy though
Should sound tough
What are the stock bore and stroke?
|
|
|
Location:
Brisbane
Registered:
June 2003
|
|
Re: Ed's 7M-GE ... Pics
|
Sun, 23 November 2003 11:40
|
|
very nice ed.
Good to see you've done most of the hard work yourself and have started from scratch and build yourself a masterpiece.
Well done.
Blake.
|
|
|
Location:
Ballarat, Victoria
Registered:
March 2003
|
|
Re: Ed's 7M-GE ... Pics
|
Sun, 23 November 2003 12:14
|
|
nice. now i finally know what that thing in your avatar is. well, ive got some idea of what it is. 
good stuff though  
|
|
|
Location:
Brisbane
Registered:
October 2002
|
|
Re: Ed's 7M-GE ... Pics
|
Sun, 23 November 2003 12:25
|
|
fuck me i'm blind,
worked out how u r gonna attach the intake piping to that TB
very nice tho
|
|
|
Location:
Lost in the K hole
Registered:
May 2002
|
|
Re: Ed's 7M-GE ... Pics
|
Sun, 23 November 2003 12:34
|
|
| philmelvin wrote on Sun, 23 November 2003 23:25 |
fuck me i'm blind
|
reckon its enough to count as 'engine rice' ?
|
|
|
I supported Toymods
Location:
Epping, Sydney
Registered:
May 2002
|
|
Re: Ed's 7M-GE ... Pics
|
Sun, 23 November 2003 12:38
|
|
|
I'd say yes, but those huge twin mustang throttle bodies staring at me tell me it's not rice
|
|
|
Location:
Lost in the K hole
Registered:
May 2002
|
|
Re: Ed's 7M-GE ... Pics
|
Sun, 23 November 2003 12:38
|
|
| philmelvin wrote on Sun, 23 November 2003 23:25 |
worked out how u r gonna attach the intake piping to that TB
|
yeah, some formed 85mm tube, with hefty use of crab welding ive also made up a section of eliptical steel plate to mate directly (pics to come)...i think im actually going to use a secion of gumboot to join the sections too (awkward size to get std intake fitting for)... youd not believe how tough gumboots are these days!!
|
|
|
Club President
I supported Toymods
Location:
Sydney
Registered:
May 2002
|
 Re: Ed's 7M-GE ... Pics
|
Sun, 23 November 2003 13:07
|
|
Awesome Dude !!!
Great to see its almost done
|
|
|
Location:
Brisbane
Registered:
June 2003
|
|
|
Toymods Social Secretary
Location:
Sydney
Registered:
July 2002
|
|
Re: Ed's 7M-GE ... Pics
|
Sun, 23 November 2003 13:18
|
|
well, this time i won't say its poopy, cos it aint!
Choice bro!!!
|
|
|
Location:
Perth
Registered:
September 2002
|
|
Re: Ed's 7M-GE ... Pics
|
Sun, 23 November 2003 13:26
|
|
| SIMDOG wrote on Sun, 23 November 2003 18:06 |
Oh man and I was planning on recycling these pants tomorrow... I can't now, they're all sticky.
|
u-huh, i'll second that notion
but why is the block yellow?
|
|
|
Location:
Lost in the K hole
Registered:
May 2002
|
|
Re: Ed's 7M-GE ... Pics
|
Sun, 23 November 2003 13:43
|
|
| Cressida Supra wrote on Mon, 24 November 2003 00:26 |
but why is the block yellow?
|
well, i had to pick 'a' colour scheme - and one major factor was i wanted a lighter block colour so i could catch leaks early.
its bloody hard trying to come up with a whole scheme across the entire engine. colours that seem good by themselves look shitty as part of an overall picture. and in high temp enamal, there isnt a lot of choice.
ultimately i went with the colours on my website not the best reason, but it worked for me.
|
|
|
Location:
Perth
Registered:
September 2002
|
|
Re: Ed's 7M-GE ... Pics
|
Sun, 23 November 2003 13:55
|
|
so does this mean the whole car is going yellow?
or does it still with the block?
|
|
|
Location:
Lost in the K hole
Registered:
May 2002
|
|
Re: Ed's 7M-GE ... Pics
|
Sun, 23 November 2003 14:09
|
|
yellow car? eugghhh! god no!
just the block and highlights
engine bay is silver
car will be deep red
|
|
|
Location:
Adelaide
Registered:
September 2003
|
|
Re: Ed's 7M-GE ... Pics
|
Sun, 23 November 2003 22:43
|
|
Hi Ed,
Nice looking work there.
I gotta admit, the cam covers look very nice .....
What is the inlet manifold from with the two inlets ? I like the work done integrating the throttle body - I wonder how it'd work if your engine had a 'T' in it 
Nice extractors.
So when does it fire up ?
Cheers
Michael B
|
|
|
Location:
Lost in the K hole
Registered:
May 2002
|
|
Re: Ed's 7M-GE ... Pics
|
Mon, 24 November 2003 00:27
|
|
| bbaacchhyy wrote on Mon, 24 November 2003 09:43 |
What is the inlet manifold from with the two inlets ?.... So when does it fire up ?
|
manifold is custom made
is using the stock ACIS NA dual plane plenum with a Mustang Cobra twin plate throttle body.
3 weeks!!
woooowwwwooooooooooo
|
|
|
Location:
Adelaide
Registered:
September 2003
|
|
Re: Ed's 7M-GE ... Pics
|
Mon, 24 November 2003 01:00
|
|
| ed_ma61 wrote on Mon, 24 November 2003 11:27 |
| bbaacchhyy wrote on Mon, 24 November 2003 09:43 |
What is the inlet manifold from with the two inlets ?.... So when does it fire up ?
|
manifold is custom made
is using the stock ACIS NA dual plane plenum with a Mustang Cobra twin plate throttle body.
3 weeks!!
woooowwwwooooooooooo
|
"Stock ACIS NA dual plane plenum"
ke ?
Michael B
|
|
|
Location:
Lost in the K hole
Registered:
May 2002
|
|
Re: Ed's 7M-GE ... Pics
|
Mon, 24 November 2003 01:10
|
|
| Quote: |
The Acoustic Control Induction System (ACIS) is used in the 7M-GE, 3VZ-FE and 2JZ-GE engines. As with the T-VIS system, the purpose of this system is to improve engine torque throughout the engine RPM range. The system consists of the same basic components as T-VIS and operates similarly. The ACIS system uses a simgle intake air chamber which effectively changes intake runner length as it opens and closes.
ACIS Air Control Valve
The main difference between T-VIS and ACIS is the single butterfly air control valve used in the ACIS system. This valve is located in the center of the intake manifold plenum and is designed to divide the plenum chamber into two sections, a front chamber and a rear chamber. By dividing the manifold plenum into two chambers, the effective manifold runner length can be controlled by opening and closing the valve.
The ECU controls the position of the intake air control valve based on input signals from the throttle angle (VTA) and engine RPM (Ne). The VSV, which controls the vacuum supply to the actuator, is normally closed and passes vacuum to the actuator when it is energized by the ECU.
|
|
|
|
Location:
Adelaide
Registered:
September 2003
|
|
Re: Ed's 7M-GE ... Pics
|
Mon, 24 November 2003 01:25
|
|
| ed_ma61 wrote on Mon, 24 November 2003 12:10 |
| Quote: |
The Acoustic Control Induction System (ACIS) is used in the 7M-GE, 3VZ-FE and 2JZ-GE engines. As with the T-VIS system, the purpose of this system is to improve engine torque throughout the engine RPM range. The system consists of the same basic components as T-VIS and operates similarly. The ACIS system uses a simgle intake air chamber which effectively changes intake runner length as it opens and closes.
ACIS Air Control Valve
The main difference between T-VIS and ACIS is the single butterfly air control valve used in the ACIS system. This valve is located in the center of the intake manifold plenum and is designed to divide the plenum chamber into two sections, a front chamber and a rear chamber. By dividing the manifold plenum into two chambers, the effective manifold runner length can be controlled by opening and closing the valve.
The ECU controls the position of the intake air control valve based on input signals from the throttle angle (VTA) and engine RPM (Ne). The VSV, which controls the vacuum supply to the actuator, is normally closed and passes vacuum to the actuator when it is energized by the ECU.
|
|
Jesus. That's the last time I ask Ed that type of question .....
|
|
|
Location:
Lost in the K hole
Registered:
May 2002
|
|
Re: Ed's 7M-GE ... Pics
|
Mon, 24 November 2003 01:29
|
|
"it makes more torque"
its just a way of tooling with the intake airflow harmonic characteristics to provide a better volumetric efficiency along the rev range (as opposed to the typical single tuned rpm band)
|
|
|
Location:
Perth
Registered:
September 2002
|
|
Re: Ed's 7M-GE ... Pics
|
Mon, 24 November 2003 01:40
|
|
|
so is the ecu being modded? or stand alone replacement?
|
|
|
Location:
Lost in the K hole
Registered:
May 2002
|
|
|
Location:
Perth
Registered:
September 2002
|
|
Re: Ed's 7M-GE ... Pics
|
Mon, 24 November 2003 02:05
|
|
| ed_ma61 wrote on Mon, 24 November 2003 10:00 |
completely stock ecu
fingers crossed
|
Fingers crossed indeed
|
|
|
Location:
Lost in the K hole
Registered:
May 2002
|
|
Re: Ed's 7M-GE ... Pics
|
Mon, 24 November 2003 02:11
|
|
it should behave like a standard 7m all the way really
the only concern i have is the volume of flow experienced by the AFM when the big numbers start getting put out up in the rpm range. the afm may max out its resolution, and then things will start getting lean.
now, the typical map iin that region is horribly rich anyway, so it may not be a problem
secondly, i plan to install a load regulated methanol/h20 injection system, and this actually 'requires' leaner conditions than usual for effective operation. so it could suit quite happily.
ive seen plenty of engines running AFM's thou, that seem to handle extraordinary increases in flow over stock, and still adequately fuel, so things should be the same here.
|
|
|
Location:
Melbourne
Registered:
May 2002
|
|
Re: Ed's 7M-GE ... Pics
|
Mon, 24 November 2003 05:13
|
|
I hope so anyway Ed! *points to 5M-TE*
Allan
|
|
|
Location:
Ballarat, Victoria
Registered:
March 2003
|
|
Re: Ed's 7M-GE ... Pics
|
Mon, 24 November 2003 07:46
|
|
| draven wrote on Sun, 23 November 2003 23:38 |
I'd say yes, but those huge twin mustang throttle bodies staring at me tell me it's not rice
|
is that whats in ed's avatar?
ive learnt something new today
|
|
|
Location:
Jimboomba, Qld
Registered:
November 2003
|
|
|
Location:
Jimboomba, Qld
Registered:
November 2003
|
|
Re: Ed's 7M-GE ... Pics
|
Fri, 28 November 2003 00:34
|
|
|
how is the other rocker cover painted up?
|
|
|
I supported Toymods
Location:
Epping, Sydney
Registered:
May 2002
|
|
Re: Ed's 7M-GE ... Pics
|
Fri, 28 November 2003 00:37
|
|
|
dont go 5m - you wont like yorself after going to the trouble of a conversion and coming out with that.
|
|
|
Location:
Lost in the K hole
Registered:
May 2002
|
|
Re: Ed's 7M-GE ... Pics
|
Fri, 28 November 2003 01:28
|
|
| bubs wrote on Fri, 28 November 2003 11:30 |
looks good
how would a 7M-GE perform in a hilux which would be working in the 1000 - 1800rpm range most of the time? will it still have plenty of torque, and if I push the loud pedal will it take off?
been considering a 5M or 7M for my 82 hilux 4wd
|
1.0-1.8k rpm?? thats more diesel territory!!!
the 7m is astoundingly torquey, but realistically, youd be looking at an rpm band of atleast 1.8-2.4k rpm
|
|
|
Location:
Jimboomba, Qld
Registered:
November 2003
|
|
Re: Ed's 7M-GE ... Pics
|
Fri, 28 November 2003 05:03
|
|
1.8 - 2.4k
that might work, i should say it wont be doing less than that at all times and would be coupled to about a 90:1 first gear, so with that torque multiplication it should be ok with a 7M?
what is the throttle response like on the 7M?
|
|
|
Location:
Lost in the K hole
Registered:
May 2002
|
|
Re: Ed's 7M-GE ... Pics
|
Fri, 28 November 2003 06:25
|
|
you building a rock crawler?
if so, the 7m would be PLENTY torquey if you gear it right, and keep it in some kind of reasonable rpm band.
throttle response? good enough. to get a torquey intake, the runners are long, so response goes down, but its far, far fron slugish
|
|
|
Location:
Canada
Registered:
September 2002
|
|
Re: Ed's 7M-GE ... Pics
|
Fri, 12 December 2003 02:33
|
|
| Allan wrote on Mon, 24 November 2003 00:13 |
I hope so anyway Ed! *points to 5M-TE*
Allan
|
WTF!?!?!?
U SERIOUS???!!!
show me! show me!
(points to the 5M/T3 project sitting various pieces in the living room...) 
|
|
|
Location:
Sydney
Registered:
June 2003
|
|
Re: Ed's 7M-GE ... Pics
|
Fri, 12 December 2003 02:47
|
|
|
Dude, that looks incredible.
|
|
|
