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1JZGTE-Ma61 Supra on Dyno-Results!!!
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Wed, 14 January 2004 10:04
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I just had my car tuned today on the dyno. I've got 1jz with 3" exhaust, FMIC, Haltech e6k and 15.5 psi boost. I had a few drivability issues such as part throttle and getting the aircon to stop stalling the motor at idle etc. Anyway I had it tuned by Matthew Spry, formerly of Chiptorque, at Performance Injection Tuning Service(P.I.T.S.0411340033)and I am totally over the moon with the way the car has been tuned. The drivability is fantastic, it comes on boost earlier and he found an extra 20kw at the wheels for a total of 230kw at 15.5 psi. I'm rapt. I can highly recommend this guy and his price was very good in my opinion, $250 for about 2.5 hours work. BTW I have never met the guy before today. I just thought I'd post this as nobody has posted their dyno figures and for the recommendation.
Rich
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Brisbane
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June 2003
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Re: 1JZGTE-Ma61 Supra on Dyno-Results!!!
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Wed, 14 January 2004 10:32
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is that 230rwkw or at flywheel?
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Location:
Launceston, Tasmania
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October 2003
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Re: 1JZGTE-Ma61 Supra on Dyno-Results!!!
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Wed, 14 January 2004 10:45
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At the wheels.
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August 2002
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Re: 1JZGTE-Ma61 Supra on Dyno-Results!!!
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Wed, 14 January 2004 11:00
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shootout mode?
other wise respect 
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Location:
Brisbane
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November 2002
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Re: 1JZGTE-Ma61 Supra on Dyno-Results!!!
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Wed, 14 January 2004 11:00
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Excellent results. As far as tuning goes, word on the street is that he is the man to see. He's done some great work on friends cars.
As a comparison, Norbie is running a 2JZ with a standard ECU in his Supra and is making slightly less power - at 19psi!
This strengthens my case for him to get a real ECU 
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Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: 1JZGTE-Ma61 Supra on Dyno-Results!!!
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Wed, 14 January 2004 11:07
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Your case will be strengthened further when you donate the required $5000. 
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Location:
Canberra
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August 2002
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Re: 1JZGTE-Ma61 Supra on Dyno-Results!!!
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Wed, 14 January 2004 14:09
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5 GRAND!!!
geezus what is it gold plated and massages ur balls while u drive???? 
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Location:
Melbourne
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November 2003
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Re: 1JZGTE-Ma61 Supra on Dyno-Results!!!
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Wed, 14 January 2004 15:12
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| alwaysRA23 wrote on Thu, 15 January 2004 01:09 |
5 GRAND!!!
geezus what is it gold plated and massages ur balls while u drive????
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Yep. Also cookes toast and fries eggs for ya, and doubles as fold out bed for when you get sleepy in your car.
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Location:
perth WA
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January 2003
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Re: 1JZGTE-Ma61 Supra on Dyno-Results!!!
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Wed, 14 January 2004 15:31
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whats the diff with shootout mode ??
i got my 1jz dynod on shootout and i thought i would get alot more ..
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sunny coast, qld
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October 2002
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Re: 1JZGTE-Ma61 Supra on Dyno-Results!!!
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Wed, 14 January 2004 23:13
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as far as i know, Shootout mode is just a little bit easier to make bigger numbers. Remember all dynos are different. Good figure none the less.
Norbie: you thinking Motec for the 2jz? Can you run an LTX12 on a 2j? Quite a few people have some pretty good results with them on 1jz.
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Location:
Perth
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October 2003
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Re: 1JZGTE-Ma61 Supra on Dyno-Results!!!
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Wed, 14 January 2004 23:25
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slylux: I thought you got yours tuned on a Dynopak? Does Dynopak have a shootout mode?
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Perth
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October 2003
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Re: 1JZGTE-Ma61 Supra on Dyno-Results!!!
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Wed, 14 January 2004 23:26
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supra1jz: Now you need some dual dumps, you might get the power up to that supposedly unobtainable standard turbo 250rwkw
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Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: 1JZGTE-Ma61 Supra on Dyno-Results!!!
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Thu, 15 January 2004 00:13
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$5k was a figure I pulled out of thin air, but the point is I don't have the money to spend on a new ECU, especially when my existing ECU works just fine and my car is already doing mid 12's!
How much is an E6K these days anyway, including loom and all the other required gear? Once you've paid for this plus a good tune plus larger injectors (you'd be nuts not to do that at the same time) I'm sure you're looking at a fair bit of money...
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Sydney
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March 2003
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Re: 1JZGTE-Ma61 Supra on Dyno-Results!!!
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Thu, 15 January 2004 00:20
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Very nice numbers, you've got to be happy with that.
I made 234rwkw on 14psi and 227kw on slightly less boost with no cam timing changes, 3" exhaust and ARE intercooler. Engine was a 2jz with 6 speed.
A friends car, JZA80, zero modifications, 6 speed trans. He made 179kw.
Both runs were done on the same day, 1 car after the other.
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Location:
Adelaide
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September 2003
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Re: 1JZGTE-Ma61 Supra on Dyno-Results!!!
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Thu, 15 January 2004 00:24
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Nice curves, but the torque curve is a little odd ???
I hate Dyno printouts that have the road speed and not RPM, as it can tend to invalidate the data somewhat as well.
Any idea at what revs peak power was ?
Cheers
Michael B
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Sydney
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March 2003
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Re: 1JZGTE-Ma61 Supra on Dyno-Results!!!
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Thu, 15 January 2004 00:29
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Mine was done in 5th gear (3.73 diff), the other was done in 4th due to 5th (1:1) overspeeding the dyno.(3.23 diff)
Power was 5600rpm from memory.
We couldn't get an RPM signal at the time of having the cars dyno'd, however later on I found you have to bridge 2 of the connectors on the check plug for the output of the crank sensor to give a readable signal, thus road speed has been used.
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Location:
Perth
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October 2002
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Re: 1JZGTE-Ma61 Supra on Dyno-Results!!!
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Thu, 15 January 2004 01:51
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Good stuff, Rich. Must be fun to drive  . Do you have any pics of the car? Also, what gearbox are you using?
Well done.
Justin
JZA61
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Brisbane, QLD
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February 2003
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Re: 1JZGTE-Ma61 Supra on Dyno-Results!!!
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Thu, 15 January 2004 03:39
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| Norbie wrote on Thu, 15 January 2004 10:13 |
How much is an E6K these days anyway, including loom and all the other required gear?
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this place advertsies the E6X at a touch under $1700
http://www.tweakit.com.au/haltech/web_haltech_e6x- aus.htm
The kit includes:
Haltech E6X ECU
Flying lead wiring loom
Fuse Block
Air Temp Sensor
Coolant Sensor
Throttle Position Sensor
Serial Cable
Instruction Manual
Software
2x Power Relays
Haltech Stickers (most important part)
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March 2003
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Re: 1JZGTE-Ma61 Supra on Dyno-Results!!!
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Thu, 15 January 2004 04:23
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230Kw is very impressive.
I currently have a MicroTech, 3" Exhaust System, larger intake. small choked stock intercooler and I'm getting 185kw at the wheels. Mine is running on around 12-14PSI.
So when I get my large FMIC I can expect 230 at the wheels with a touch more boost and tuning?
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sunny coast, qld
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October 2002
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Re: 1JZGTE-Ma61 Supra on Dyno-Results!!!
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Thu, 15 January 2004 05:19
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that is a 45rwkw increase! so about 60kw at the fly. If a good intercooler can do that, it will be the next thing on my shopping list!
Somehow, i don't think it is possible though
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I supported Toymods
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Perth
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May 2002
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Re: 1JZGTE-Ma61 Supra on Dyno-Results!!!
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Thu, 15 January 2004 05:57
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| bassaholic55 wrote on Thu, 15 January 2004 07:13 |
as far as i know, Shootout mode is just a little bit easier to make bigger numbers. Remember all dynos are different. Good figure none the less.
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This is incorrect, it's not easier to make bigger numbers at all. Shootout mode is for making all the Dyno Dynamics dyno's produce the same value based on the theory of fixing the variables for each time and adjusting for the ambient temperature, in theory (and it works when used properly) it can produce the same or similar results on every dyno.
YES it can be fooled into reading higher by boosting up the temperature (placing it near an exhaust) but when used properly there are a lot less variables to make the figures look bigger...
I'm sorry if that was long-winded but I'm sick of the hearsay that goes on about it, if only people actually read exactly how it works before commenting they would realise it is a good thing!
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Re: 1JZGTE-Ma61 Supra on Dyno-Results!!!
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Thu, 15 January 2004 06:07
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Don't make me crush you nathan
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Re: 1JZGTE-Ma61 Supra on Dyno-Results!!!
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Thu, 15 January 2004 06:11
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RESPECT Nathan
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sunny coast, qld
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October 2002
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Re: 1JZGTE-Ma61 Supra on Dyno-Results!!!
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Thu, 15 January 2004 06:29
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as i stated above, all dynos are different and they should not be used for bragging rights. (no offence) However, they are definitely a good tuning tool and he should be happier about the increase than the total figure.
MPH down the quarter mile is a better way of comparing power IMO or just race someone That should settle the comparison
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Canberra
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May 2002
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Re: 1JZGTE-Ma61 Supra on Dyno-Results!!!
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Thu, 15 January 2004 07:00
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This is incorrect, it's not easier to make bigger numbers at all. Shootout mode is for making all the Dyno Dynamics dyno's produce the same value based on the theory of fixing the variables for each time and adjusting for the ambient temperature, in theory (and it works when used properly) it can produce the same or similar results on every dyno.
YES it can be fooled into reading higher by boosting up the temperature (placing it near an exhaust) but when used properly there are a lot less variables to make the figures look bigger...
I'm sorry if that was long-winded but I'm sick of the hearsay that goes on about it, if only people actually read exactly how it works before commenting they would realise it is a good thing!
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Agreed!  There's a lot of bullshit out there about shootout mode inflating figures. A dyno is just a tuning tool anyways....... why worry about "mine makes 185kw" vs "mine makes 205kw" ?
HOWEVER: Hopefully we will all be at the dyno day this sunday to guage our cars against similar ones on the same dyno on the same day Its all good......
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Perth
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May 2002
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Re: 1JZGTE-Ma61 Supra on Dyno-Results!!!
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Thu, 15 January 2004 08:14
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| BlackSupra wrote on Thu, 15 January 2004 14:07 |
Don't make me crush you nathan
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Haha, I'll just sick Steph onto you
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Launceston, Tasmania
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October 2003
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Re: 1JZGTE-Ma61 Supra on Dyno-Results!!!
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Thu, 15 January 2004 08:29
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Hehe I opened up a can of worms there didn't I?LOL. Forget the power figure, what I really wanted to convey was how much better the drivability had become after having a top tuner map the Haltech, it's just made so much difference. The car comes on boost so quickly and with a real rush that it never had before except probably when I was in Tas. and it was really cold(that's a real eye opener with such cold, dense air). I posted because a fair few people have been asking who to tune their cars and I knew Matthew Spry would be good after spending so long at Chiptorque and I wasn't mistaken.
Celica Sue:Standard w58 g/box and yes the car is so much fun to drive it's not funny.
When I get back to Tas. in a few weeks I'm going to run it on the strip and see what times it will do. I'm hoping for a mid 12 which I think is realistic.
Rich
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Brisbane, QLD
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February 2003
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Re: 1JZGTE-Ma61 Supra on Dyno-Results!!!
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Thu, 15 January 2004 08:35
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| justcallmefrank wrote on Thu, 15 January 2004 18:14 |
| BlackSupra wrote on Thu, 15 January 2004 14:07 |
Don't make me crush you nathan
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Haha, I'll just sick Steph onto you
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surprised you didnt try bring your mummy into this
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I supported Toymods
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Perth
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May 2002
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Re: 1JZGTE-Ma61 Supra on Dyno-Results!!!
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Thu, 15 January 2004 08:46
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Why do I need to, he's already going to cop a hiding from Steph when he gets here
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Brisbane, QLD
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February 2003
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Re: 1JZGTE-Ma61 Supra on Dyno-Results!!!
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Thu, 15 January 2004 08:50
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speaking of getting there
when i'm back over that way, your frikken car better be ready, or you'll be the one copping the hiding
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Perth
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Re: 1JZGTE-Ma61 Supra on Dyno-Results!!!
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Thu, 15 January 2004 08:54
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Haha, when you coming?
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August 2002
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Location:
Brisbane, QLD
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February 2003
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Re: 1JZGTE-Ma61 Supra on Dyno-Results!!!
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Thu, 15 January 2004 09:16
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from memory it was supposed to be ready by christmas
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March 2003
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Re: 1JZGTE-Ma61 Supra on Dyno-Results!!!
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Thu, 15 January 2004 14:07
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supra1jz,
What sort of Diff are you running? I have a W57 behind my 1JZ, and a non LSD. So I think I will put a JZA70 LSD in, then when the gearbox goes a steel(?) W58.
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Perth
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Re: 1JZGTE-Ma61 Supra on Dyno-Results!!!
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Thu, 15 January 2004 22:49
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I didn't specify which Christmas did I? Haha, Steph already wants to give you a beating for dissing the "all-powerful" Matiz
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Location:
Brisbane, QLD
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February 2003
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Re: 1JZGTE-Ma61 Supra on Dyno-Results!!!
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Thu, 15 January 2004 22:58
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I'm not sure many people are capable of saying "all-powerful" and matiz in the same sentence.
atleast it has a strut tower brace thingo....beats my "beast" in that department.
depending on several variables i'll grace Perth once again with my appearance somtime between the arse end of July(my B'day) and Christmas.
as a side note....i'm quite partial to an ass whooping from the female members of our race...so tell her to BRING IT ON
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Brisbane, QLD
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February 2003
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Re: 1JZGTE-Ma61 Supra on Dyno-Results!!!
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Thu, 15 January 2004 23:00
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Anyone notice something wrong with this thread(apart from my inability to spell correctly or use grammar)?
Its considerably off topic....and cool1 hasnt contributed... 
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Location:
North Sydney
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May 2002
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Re: 1JZGTE-Ma61 Supra on Dyno-Results!!!
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Fri, 16 January 2004 02:44
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Is this guy in Sydney or Brissy? Def keen to get mine re-tuned.
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Brisbane, QLD
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February 2003
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Re: 1JZGTE-Ma61 Supra on Dyno-Results!!!
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Fri, 16 January 2004 03:06
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brisbane\gold coast i'd say
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Location:
Gold Coast
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May 2002
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Re: 1JZGTE-Ma61 Supra on Dyno-Results!!!
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Fri, 16 January 2004 05:07
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supra1jz
Occasional Poster
Location:
Gold Coast
.... been to OPSM lately?
Good power! Yet to dyno my heap.
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Location:
Melbourne
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May 2002
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Re: 1JZGTE-Ma61 Supra on Dyno-Results!!!
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Fri, 16 January 2004 05:13
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hahahha
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