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Nark
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icon5.gif  Possessives in English grammar Mon, 09 February 2004 09:13 Go to next message

Should there be an 's'?[ 43 vote(s) ]
1.No, it's Keats' poem! 36 / 84%
2.Yes, it's Keats's poem! 7 / 16%

Just had an... err.... "discussion" with the woman over this.

For possession, should there be an 's' after the apostrophe of someone's name if the name ends in an 's'?

For example, we say Peter's ball...

Do we write Keats's poem?
Or Keats' poem?

A car modifier's forum is prolly not the best place to ask this question I suppose.... Judging from the amount of people who don't know the difference between there, they're, and their on these forums, I'm kinda afraid of the results of this poll....

Here's a bit of reading for you guys:
http://ccc.commnet.edu/grammar/possessives.htm

They sit on the fence though. Sad

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Re: Possessives in English grammar Mon, 09 February 2004 09:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I believe it would be keats's poem as it indicates singular possession. After the 's' indicates multiple possession, ie; the boys' shoes which there are multiple boys with their own pairs of shoes. Thats what I remember from like year 8 anyway when we did this stuff.

Voted for the wrong one and cant change it so I just wrote it.

[Updated on: Mon, 09 February 2004 09:31]

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Re: Possessives in English grammar Mon, 09 February 2004 11:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
arrgh..

no such thing as s's

in *anything* english

its keats'

end of story

i may be wrong

hahaha
*slap*

[Updated on: Mon, 09 February 2004 11:23]

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Re: Possessives in English grammar Mon, 09 February 2004 11:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Possessives in English grammar Mon, 09 February 2004 11:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
In that form, I agree, no such thing as Keats's, just Keats'.
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Re: Possessives in English grammar Mon, 09 February 2004 11:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ae86drift wrote on Mon, 09 February 2004 22:13

arrgh..

no such thing as s's

in *anything* english

its keats'

end of story

i may be wrong

hahaha
*slap*


You are not wrong... *Magically withdraws self-induced slap*. Very Happy
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Re: Possessives in English grammar Mon, 09 February 2004 11:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i voted on the s's because it looked lonely
poor s's Sad
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Re: Possessives in English grammar Mon, 09 February 2004 11:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Possessives in English grammar Mon, 09 February 2004 11:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Cyber-punk wrote on Mon, 09 February 2004 22:41

i voted on the s's because it looked lonely
poor s's Sad



What I'd like to know is how did you see the results before you voted? Aaahaaaa!!!! Got you! Caught you out! Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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Re: Possessives in English grammar Mon, 09 February 2004 11:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Conquest wrote on Mon, 09 February 2004 22:51

Cyber-punk wrote on Mon, 09 February 2004 22:41

i voted on the s's because it looked lonely
That's cause the SS was beaten by Toyota power...

HA HA HA HA!!! Laughing
That's great.
Bet yes, one of the only things I remember from school is this one. No s's.

But I get there and their mixed up all the time. So yeah. Very Happy I do know what they both mean, but yeah... when I'm typing sometimes it just slips out.
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Re: Possessives in English grammar Mon, 09 February 2004 11:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i used to get were and where mixed up alot
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Re: Possessives in English grammar Mon, 09 February 2004 12:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Keats' poem is teh ghey. Nark is teh ghey for discussing poetry with a woman and not shagging her.
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Re: Possessives in English grammar Mon, 09 February 2004 12:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gianttomato wrote on Mon, 09 February 2004 23:29

Keats' poem is teh ghey. Nark is teh ghey for discussing poetry with a woman and not shagging her.

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Re: Possessives in English grammar Mon, 09 February 2004 12:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
It's a Keats poem.
It's Keats' poem.
It's a waste not shagging the woman (unless she looked like keats/keat's/keats'/keats's)
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Re: Possessives in English grammar Mon, 09 February 2004 13:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
as discussed in a previous thread, it's amazing how much intelligence their actually is on this car forum, when you consider that, well, most car enthusiast's arent renouned for their intellect Smile

(and yes, the two apostrophies and the "their" are intentional ... especially for max)
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Re: Possessives in English grammar Mon, 09 February 2004 14:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
all you folks with basic literary skills should have known to search out a style manual - and most australian uni's and gov't use the AGPS style manual.... plus a lot of gov't departments tend to produce a subset of the AGPS style manula... e.g.
<http://education.qld.gov.au/publication/production /print/style.html>
... relating to this topic:
<http://education.qld.gov.au/publication/style/punc tuation.html>

and no, i don't work for Ed Qld...
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Re: Possessives in English grammar Tue, 10 February 2004 06:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
From that link
Quote:

For singular and plural nouns that end in any letter other than s, form the possessive by adding 's:

the boy's book
the children's opinions
Plural nouns that end in s should take the s':

the Smiths' house
the dogs' kennels
When singular nouns end in s, the 's is generally used:

Dickens's novels
Nurse Jones's uniform



So I got it right at the start Laughing
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Re: Possessives in English grammar Tue, 10 February 2004 10:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
From that link

Dickens's novels
Nurse Jones's uniform


Woohoo! I was right!

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Re: Possessives in English grammar Tue, 10 February 2004 10:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
draven wrote on Tue, 10 February 2004 00:34

as discussed in a previous thread, it's amazing how much intelligence their actually is on this car forum, when you consider that, well, most car enthusiast's arent renouned for their intellect Smile

(and yes, the two apostrophies and the "their" are intentional ... especially for max)


Except that it's "enthusiasts"... Wink
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Re: Possessives in English grammar Tue, 10 February 2004 11:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
whaaaat? what a joke
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Re: Possessives in English grammar Tue, 17 February 2004 04:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Blame the YANKS!

They usually use the stupid ---s's
Afterall they spell programme, program
and centre, center.
Also, they created the worst word in the world...GOTTEN....don't ever use it.

I remember after doing QLD examinations there was a question on how to use the word 'alternate'. This word should should only be used to describe something that changes either direction or choice etc. For some reason people say, "Oh that man has an alternate lifestyle."
SHOULD BE alternative - it's an adjective!
As for the word 'program', you can get away with but it should be 'programme'.
To top it off, I remember my teachers saying that we had an 'alternate program' in the dying weeks at school. That's Edu. Qld. for ya!
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Re: Possessives in English grammar Mon, 01 March 2004 12:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Nark wrote on Mon, 09 February 2004 20:13


A car modifier's forum is prolly not the best place to ask this question I suppose....


car modifier (class) forum
or car modifiers' forum (plural posessive)
not car modifier's forum (singular posessive).
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Re: Possessives in English grammar Mon, 01 March 2004 12:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
just replace the apostrophe for the word "own"

keats{own} poem
keat{own}s the poem
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Re: Possessives in English grammar Mon, 01 March 2004 12:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I disagree.

I think of it as a forum for the car modifier.

Therefore, my use of "car modifier's forums".
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Re: Possessives in English grammar Mon, 01 March 2004 12:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
acv17 wrote on Tue, 17 February 2004 14:22

Blame the YANKS!

They usually use the stupid ---s's
Afterall they spell programme, program
and centre, center.
Also, they created the worst word in the world...GOTTEN....don't ever use it.




color, colour, houor, humour, aluminium, ect ect

fucking poms vs US
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Re: Possessives in English grammar Thu, 04 March 2004 08:56 Go to previous message
Nark wrote on Mon, 01 March 2004 23:28

I disagree.

I think of it as a forum for the car modifier.

Therefore, my use of "car modifier's forums".


I'm not disputing the possessive. I'm disputing the plural or lack of same.

It's a car modification focused forum, yes.
But a forum for one car modifier? (modifier's)
Or more than one car modifier? (modifiers')

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