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Epping, Sydney
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Re: 1988 Celica SX
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Mon, 09 February 2004 02:15
 
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yup
3sge 1st gen. Lots has been written about it on these forums.. depends what questions you have I guess 
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Melbourne, VIC
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January 2004
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Re: 1988 Celica SX
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Mon, 09 February 2004 02:36
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That's my friend car...it's an automatic. The engine is mis-firing.. sounds like it's running in 3 cylinder.. not much power and it keeps shaking. No white smoke, no smell.. eveything sound good to me except what I've just said.... What most likely the problem will be? Spark plug? valve spring? or headgasket(oh no..)? What can be the worth case and how much is it going to cost me fixing it up?
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April 2003
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Re: 1988 Celica SX
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Mon, 09 February 2004 02:58
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I would check the spark plugs(for spark) , the leads(resistance with a voltmeter or spark) , the distributor(cap removal and inspection of points and rotor) and the engine mounts (shaking)
the condition of the plugs should tell you some stuff as well.. and if that all fails you can teake the injectors off and get them serviced, but you could just run some cleaner through to see if that helps.
but I would do that first stuff first. hope this helps ya mate
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Melbourne, VIC
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January 2004
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Re: 1988 Celica SX
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Mon, 09 February 2004 03:15
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Thanks m8~ I'll have a check on those~
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Melbourne, VIC
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January 2004
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Wahroonga
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June 2003
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Re: URGENT HELP!! 1988 Celica SX sorry but gotta get it done in a week
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Mon, 09 February 2004 07:04
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When i blew my engine about 18 months ago the mech said that a simple swap would be about $2k, engine being about $750 of that and other bits like oil adding up to about $100. But that doesn't garentee that that engine will last too long, best if u get an engine from somewhere that u see if u can get a garentee of some kind.
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Melbourne, VIC
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January 2004
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Re: URGENT HELP!! 1988 Celica SX sorry but gotta get it done in a week
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Mon, 09 February 2004 07:46
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thx. I've just bought a crashed celica to have the swap. the engine still runs well... hopefully will get it done during the week
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Wahroonga
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June 2003
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Re: URGENT HELP!! 1988 Celica SX sorry but gotta get it done in a week
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Mon, 09 February 2004 07:57
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well if u do the job ur self all it should cost u now is the oil, and time.
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Melbourne, VIC
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January 2004
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Re: URGENT HELP!! 1988 Celica SX sorry but gotta get it done in a week
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Mon, 09 February 2004 08:02
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Um... the guy said he might not sell it as his gf wants to fix it and use it. anyway... do you think it's worth rebuilding the damaged one at all? No idea why but there's no 3SGE for sale now.. @@"
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Tamworth
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October 2002
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Re: URGENT HELP!! 1988 Celica SX sorry but gotta get it done in a week
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Mon, 09 February 2004 10:26
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when i blew my motor, i just rang around the import places and picked up a second hand one that "they said had low km's", but there is no guarantee as i found it the cheaper way out, and it it very easy to swap over and just remember to chuck new seals in it before you put it back in
i have a spare motor here but i wouldnt sell it to any one without saying its starting to blow smoke
depending whats wrong with it it may be easy to fix it.
low compression may just mean a H/G, or cracked rings but i think it would be blowing a bit of smoke if it were the rings ?
and its not blowing smoke or using oil ?
is it using water at all ?
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Melbourne, VIC
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January 2004
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Re: URGENT HELP!! 1988 Celica SX sorry but gotta get it done in a week
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Mon, 09 February 2004 11:38
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Thanks for your advise and it's not making smoke and smell.. but it does eat oil... how much should it be charged to do a rebuild in a shop? How much are you thinking of selling yours? and what is it need to be done to fix yours?
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Epping, Sydney
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April 2003
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Re: URGENT HELP!! 1988 Celica SX sorry but gotta get it done in a week
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Mon, 09 February 2004 13:08
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personally when my motors fries itself I will not bother to fix it I don't think
I would sooner spend the dosh on a newer gen 2 or 3 3sge and whack it in.
that is for me anyway
If you wanna do it yourself that is. if you are going the workshop route I would source a new engine yourself and get them to drop it in. Dpending on the damage though a rebuild is probably your cheapest way out ifyou are going the workshop route
my thoughts anyway. have had no experience really in this area. I do everything myself
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Melbourne, VIC
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January 2004
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Re: URGENT HELP!! 1988 Celica SX sorry but gotta get it done in a week
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Mon, 09 February 2004 21:47
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The shop is charging $2500 for a rebuild... do you think it's resonable?
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Epping, Sydney
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April 2003
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Re: URGENT HELP!! 1988 Celica SX sorry but gotta get it done in a week
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Tue, 10 February 2004 01:10
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The shop is charging $2500 for a rebuild... do you think it's resonable?
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no I don't
can you get some other quotes? But honestly, if you bought a nice gen 2 or 3 or a newish gen 1 I imagine prices would be between 750 and 1300 for the engine.
Maybe ask them how much they would charge to bolt in a new engine.. using existing loom gbox etc..
that may work out cheaper.. I dunno.. and you would have lots of spare parts! 
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Melbourne, VIC
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January 2004
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Re: URGENT HELP!! 1988 Celica SX sorry but gotta get it done in a week
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Tue, 10 February 2004 01:41
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who should I contact for a new engine without the computer and loom etc..? the same shop that does the swap/rebuild?
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Melbourne, VIC
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January 2004
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Re: URGENT HELP!! 1988 Celica SX sorry but gotta get it done in a week
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Tue, 10 February 2004 03:23
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Thanks for everyone who's helped. I've finally found a crashed celica (the car's still running well) and bought the engine off for $500. Now have to get a shop to pull the engine out from that crashed car and then fit that in mine... the labour might cost more than the engine though...
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Epping, Sydney
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April 2003
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Re: URGENT HELP!! 1988 Celica SX sorry but gotta get it done in a week
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Tue, 10 February 2004 04:03
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sweet dude, you can't do it yourself? at least pull it out???
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Location:
Melbourne, VIC
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January 2004
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Re: URGENT HELP!! 1988 Celica SX sorry but gotta get it done in a week
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Tue, 10 February 2004 04:09
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I haven't got the tools(engine hoist..etc) m8... even so.. I need someone to toll it to the workshop as I don't have a toll bar or a trailer... 
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1 of the cylinder is gone and the rest are buring oil.. the machinic suggests me to swap the engine or to rebuild it... what do you rekon? Are all the 1986-1989 celica using 1st gen 3sge? May need to find one to swap in... how much does it usually cost for a 3SGE?