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 ALLMOTOR Celica ST162 Project
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Sun, 22 February 2004 10:09
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I have bought this 1987 Celica SX last week, i was modifying a camry previously and am very happy with the final result. I was looking on the for sale section not intending to buy anything, and saw the Celica for an absolute bargain  , it has been sitting under a tarp with a blown motor for about 3 months, until i saved it  . Then the camry plans where quickly changed, and going into the celica.
MY CURRENT TOY:
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/2/web/29 0000-290999/290592_5_full.jpg
MY NEW TOY:
Current Mods:
- Genie Headers & Extractors.
- 2-1/4 inch Exhuast mandrel bent from the extractors back
- Rear King springs, mysterious red ones at front
- Halogen Spotlight
- Shock sensor
- Keyless entry
Planned Mods:
- Mr2 gen2 3sge Conversion
- Heayy Duty Clutch
- Race Cams
- Lightened Flywheel
- White Pearl Respray
- Odyssey Battery
- Sound System Install
- Tint 20%
Thanx to my mate RobST162, for letting me drive his car and see what Celicas are all about. The freaky thing is, the day after i drove Robs car i bought this Celica  .
ENJOY
[Updated on: Wed, 17 March 2004 12:24]
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Ballarat, Victoria
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March 2003
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Sun, 22 February 2004 13:01
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good stuff matey. 
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Epping, Sydney
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April 2003
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Re: ALLMOTOR Celica ST162 Project
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Sun, 22 February 2004 23:31
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Thanx to my mate RobST162, for letting me drive his car and see what Celicas are all about.
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lol hey np dude! Punk! Buying Celica's without giving me first look in.. hahha naah it's cool, now I just hat to make sure my sleeker is the sweetest ride to keep ahead of you. lol.
Let me know when you want me to come round and help take out the interior 
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Castle Hill, Sydney
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January 2003
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Re: ALLMOTOR Celica ST162 Project
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Mon, 23 February 2004 01:42
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Well done on getting a ST162!
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Epping, Sydney
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Re: ALLMOTOR Celica ST162 Project
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Mon, 23 February 2004 01:45
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Well done on getting a ST162!
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(Richie Beanaud voice) "Yes, supa choice that"
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Re: ALLMOTOR Celica ST162 Project
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Mon, 23 February 2004 13:28
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I will have interior pics up soon .
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Re: ALLMOTOR Celica ST162 Project
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Wed, 25 February 2004 06:00
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Congrats on the purchase mate !
I knew somehow that the Camry project would have been aborted 
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Colac, Victoria
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May 2002
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Re: ALLMOTOR Celica ST162 Project
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Sun, 29 February 2004 11:05
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those sweet rims belong on the white celica ..
get those spanners turning !
OH btw - unless your new celica is possessed by some monkey god , or breathing thru a classique and rob's Anti rice Induction kit - it will Nevah be better - muahaha ! ( just kiddin )
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Epping, Sydney
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Sun, 29 February 2004 23:40
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rofl lmao
damm straight!
this thursday = projekt stage 1 right Steven?!
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melbourne
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February 2004
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Re: ALLMOTOR Celica ST162 Project
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Mon, 01 March 2004 00:18
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this thread is inspiring
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Mon, 01 March 2004 13:08
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| stereomike wrote on Mon, 01 March 2004 11:18 |
this thread is inspiring
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hehe If you car can move as you said it does, your ahead of me in the project .
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Campbelltown, NSW, Austra...
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January 2004
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Re: ALLMOTOR Celica ST162 Project
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Tue, 02 March 2004 05:45
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Looks like a great project, i was thinking about buying that celica, but without an engine there wasn't much point.
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Sydney
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melbourne
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Wed, 03 March 2004 01:40
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holy shit, now THAT looks fun!! i went go-karting last week for a mate's birthday. it was ludicrously fun.
speaking of which, we're getting together a kind of go-karting league for melbournians, so if any of you are interested, let me know and i'll give you more details!
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Sydney
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November 2003
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Wed, 03 March 2004 02:20
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do i hear a gen2 3SGE calling? i think i do
hehe im talking about the go kart too btw not the celica!
hahaahahaha
nice work wat else u gona buy next stephen? harbour bridge? hehe
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Epping, Sydney
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Wed, 03 March 2004 02:28
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nice work wat else u gona buy next stephen? harbour bridge? hehe
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HAHAHAA yeah Stephen! what r you going to buy?
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Canberra
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April 2003
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Re: ALLMOTOR Celica ST162 Project
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Wed, 03 March 2004 02:49
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that go-kart looks rad 
Mate in your parts list on the celica it says you have king springs rear, and mysterios red ones on the front, those fronts would probably be pedders springs, so if they are get rid of them quick, I have a friend with a celica with spring setup exactly like that, his handles like shit, the fronts are too soft, they feel like stocks (he had lowered all round), I had king spring on mine all round (lowered) and it felt heaps better than his did.
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Re: ALLMOTOR Celica ST162 Project
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Wed, 03 March 2004 12:04
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Yeah i want to get a new setup, with King Springs front and rear and kyb shocks .
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Re: ALLMOTOR Celica ST162 Project
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Thu, 04 March 2004 10:42
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What are the stats on the gen2 I know it's got more torque and about another 10kW but what is the actual torque figure?
And king springs are very nice, just got mine lowered with them, and monroe gas gt's very very nice you'll enjoy it immensly
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Thu, 04 March 2004 11:23
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Hey mate,
GEN1 3SGE (Celica st162)= 103kw@6000rpm & 172nm@4800rpm
GEN2 3SGE (MR2 1990-1994)= 117kw@6800rpm & 190nm@4800rpm
I have King springs and monroe Gt Gas shocks on the camry and they made it handle like a celica , huge difference in cornering. I have heard a lot of good things about the kybs so il try them this time .
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November 2003
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Thu, 04 March 2004 11:57
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just get konis, the cars gona be a proper sports car u may as well deck it out and not got cheap
hehe
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I supported Toymods
On probation
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Brisbane, Queensland
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January 2003
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Re: ALLMOTOR Celica ST162 Project
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Thu, 04 March 2004 12:22
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i'd have to say that i really like the looks of the camry, i actually prefer it to the celica 
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Re: ALLMOTOR Celica ST162 Project
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Thu, 04 March 2004 12:58
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| boris wrote on Thu, 04 March 2004 23:22 |
i'd have to say that i really like the looks of the camry, i actually prefer it to the celica
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hehe thanx , i get compliments for the camry often, specially at the petrol station and people also constantly ask what car is that, and i say camry and they say are you serious, they only beleive me when they look at the back badge hehe. I tried to show the potential camrys have, and i think i have acheived that , i have people saying damn after seeing your camry i might get one next hehe.
So on to the next Project , but celicas have street cred so this will be a walk in the park , Also celicas were built to be driven hard as soon as they rolled out of the factory, jump in and put the pedal to the floor .
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Canberra
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April 2003
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Re: ALLMOTOR Celica ST162 Project
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Thu, 04 March 2004 14:06
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Yeah I have lowered king sprins and KYB shock in mine, damn they are a great comination, I love them, koni's are good but the KYBs do just as good a job for less.
The reason I asked about the springs is I have a pair of king lowered springs for sale for the front (but it's just the fronts, its a long story), might give you a head start, they are in the for sale section
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Re: ALLMOTOR Celica ST162 Project
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Fri, 05 March 2004 03:59
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I might start looking around for gen2 3sge prices with loom and ecu then, that's a nice boost in torque
And I'm presuming that without t-vis it would be easier to fiddle with?
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Epping, Sydney
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April 2003
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Re: ALLMOTOR Celica ST162 Project
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Sun, 07 March 2004 12:16
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aaaaaaand can we have photos from Projekt Day #1? hehehehe we had FUN taking this baby apart. Nice valve stems too!
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Re: ALLMOTOR Celica ST162 Project
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Sun, 07 March 2004 12:31
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just don't forget where all that shit you take off goes otherwise if you ever want to put it back togeter it could be a nightmare, especially for bolts, best to keep them with the item in a bag taped to it. your brave pulling it down while it's stil in the car, personally i'd pull the engine from the car first.
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Epping, Sydney
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April 2003
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Sun, 07 March 2004 22:55
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no pullin it down bro, the engine is STUFFFFFFFFFED.
Car is getting a new one in. All that is (unnecessarily) off is the rocker covers atm. Alternator had to come off to take genies off, stupid bolt wasn't co-operating.
So bolts are in labelled glad bags, parts pretty much speak for themselves
The engine is now at stage where we couldn't do any more without a hoist so good progress I think. To get it out now is unbolt x-member, g-box and mounts and shwing out she comes.
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Re: ALLMOTOR Celica ST162 Project
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Mon, 15 March 2004 03:30
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shocks sit on the rear rubber
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Dude you mean that the strut-tower spring seat touches the tyres? There are plenty of dudes out there with 17z on their 162s.
So when does the 3SGE arrive?!
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Re: ALLMOTOR Celica ST162 Project
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Mon, 15 March 2004 03:42
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Yes the strut tower sits on the rubber not allowing it to move, main prob is i have 7.5 inch wide tyres if i had 7 inch wide it would be ok. SCO-77K has 7.5 inch wide tyres on his ST162 but his celica isnt lowered, so he will see when he lowers it.
When i buy a Celica i want to drive it hard , that is quite hard with 17z as all owners of 17/18 inch will tell you, yes you can get your guards rolled and lipped but you still will have rubbing on hard corners and you cant do a full turn. When you have 16z you have less rotation and effort enabling you to get better speed, and when you plant it in a corner there is no dreaded rubbing sound like you would hear with 17z, also you can have a better turning circle unlike with 17z which gives you a turning circle of a truck haha .
3SGE arrives maybe end of this week or next week .
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Mon, 15 March 2004 04:26
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nice! good luck with the project
with your 17" i think the sparco's you have are the wrong offset for the celica, i had a similar problem with my corolla, had 17" zepter ligure rims with 205 rubber on it and it was touching the strut, now i have 17" lenso rims with 215 wide rubber and its fine
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Re: ALLMOTOR Celica ST162 Project
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Wed, 17 March 2004 12:21
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Well i dont know really, but think the rear springs are cut because the rear sits very low, if they are infact cut, when i get the king springs the rims will sit under fine .
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Re: ALLMOTOR Celica ST162 Project
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Wed, 17 March 2004 12:27
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but dude the space between the spring seat and the "hub" (and therefore the spring seat and the wheel) does not vary based on the spring.
the spring height has absolutely no bearing on whether the wheel hits the spring seat as the strut is a fixed length from the "hub" to that seat.
however, a bad offset could cause a problem.  are you SURE it is a spring issue?
my $0.02 anyway hope I am right
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Wed, 24 March 2004 05:37
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I think i need lower profile tyres, then it will be all good .
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nsw
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Re: ALLMOTOR Celica ST162 Project
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Thu, 25 March 2004 01:29
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| DeViL rOlLa wrote on Thu, 25 March 2004 00:01 |
what rob said was true, when i put my 17's on, the seats had to be hammered in so they didnt rub on my rubbers, and then when i dropped her 3 inches on her ass....... you guessed it, no scrubin on the seats !!!
p.s., i have 17 by 7.5 and mines 3 inches lower ???, just had to get the guards rolled, and they DONT scrub on full lock !
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il be Interested in seeing this, Pics Please .
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Thu, 25 March 2004 01:36
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what do u wanna c ???
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Re: ALLMOTOR Celica ST162 Project
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Thu, 25 March 2004 01:53
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| DeViL rOlLa wrote on Thu, 25 March 2004 12:36 |
what do u wanna c ???
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Ok i now saw pics of your car, howmuch did guard rolling cost you?, and where?.
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Re: ALLMOTOR Celica ST162 Project
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Thu, 25 March 2004 01:56
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50 bucks a guard out at wholesale suspension at penrith, or u can wait a month for the mobile guy....
i got their number if u want it
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Re: ALLMOTOR Celica ST162 Project
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Wed, 21 April 2004 04:49
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Still need to pickup the motor  , i hope it will all be finished for Toymods Dyno Day 9  .
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Elwood, Melb
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August 2003
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Wed, 21 April 2004 05:09
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Hey smt007, cos ive been away for so long i didn't realise you bought a cell, i remember discussing your options with you last time i was around, well my friend, you have indeed made the right choice, good stuff dude.
Anyway, whats all this business about 17" rims scrubbing and people needing their guards rolled, i chopped my springs (yeah i know, but im getting crazy shit when i get the 3s-gte in) and i had no problems just the exhaust smacking the axles, problem fixed after heat bending.
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Re: ALLMOTOR Celica ST162 Project
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Sun, 02 May 2004 00:31
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Hey Steve,
You might want to talk with Dave Wallce about this. He did this engine swap for a friend's st162 and I remember he said he had to use the intake manifold from the old gen1 engine and the gen2 hits the firewall.
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Melbourne
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December 2003
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Re: ALLMOTOR Celica ST162 Project
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Wed, 05 May 2004 02:33
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Keep us posted mate - ur plans are exactly what im gonna do to mine. Just savin so i canm get a Gen2 - Im lookin at puttin in higher comp pistons too, but im not sure how much of a difference this will make. All depends on which cams i get i spose. Well good luck and let us know how it all goes.
Oh, and i dont think that it should rub on the firewall as it is exactly the same size and dimensions as the gen1, but i could be wrong
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Re: ALLMOTOR Celica ST162 Project
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Sat, 08 May 2004 00:27
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hey stephen i jsut sold my camry but im staying in the toyota family, old school rolla! hehe
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Re: ALLMOTOR Celica ST162 Project
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Sun, 09 May 2004 08:13
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Damn everyone is ditching the Camrys, no more camry cruises??
Meh i am saving for a better car too, im still not sure what i want, but im sticking with Toyota and i want it to be newer than my current car (1992).
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Re: ALLMOTOR Celica ST162 Project
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Fri, 14 May 2004 10:38
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| domasik wrote on Sat, 08 May 2004 10:27 |
hey stephen i jsut sold my camry but im staying in the toyota family, old school rolla! hehe
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Is it the ke30 rolla?, i had one there sweet .
Omega- well still have atleast one more camry cruise coz craig and chris's turbo camry are complete and looking HEKTIC hehe , since no one is orgainising any toyota cruises i might organise one soon for all toyotas to enjoy .
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Re: ALLMOTOR Celica ST162 Project
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Sat, 15 May 2004 11:23
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yo stephen u need pull ya head out of the st162 engine bay for 10 mins n come on the net every now n then hehe, well i picked it up today its a ke55 coupe! the quarter windows have their own winders!! haha its so sick, got heaps of rust but gona get stuck into that ill be able to do it my mate who lives round the corner has a mig welder, sweet, paid 500 for it and its got december rego! anwyays ill come on the cruise even if it just is camrys i wana see craigs gen 3
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Melbourne
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December 2003
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Re: ALLMOTOR Celica ST162 Project
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Mon, 17 May 2004 01:24
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Question for ya: will u have to get the celi engineered as a different engine has gone into it? or as its the same (3sge) it doesnt have to. Im asking coz im lookin at the same option as, well savin for a st202 front cut,. But yeah, any ideas?
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Re: ALLMOTOR Celica ST162 Project
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Mon, 17 May 2004 08:03
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You would probably have to at least get the registration changed given that the block number will be different.
If you ever get an engine out of a written off vehicle, keep the receipt if you plan on putting it into your car and getting it all legitimalised. Otherwise when you go to re-register it and change the engine number ***all sorts of hell will break loose***. Something to do with stolen vehicles and the like, they don't like it
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Re: ALLMOTOR Celica ST162 Project
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Wed, 09 June 2004 09:53
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I have been real busy lately, but... FINALLY i will be picking up the mr2 motor this Sunday .
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Melbourne
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Re: ALLMOTOR Celica ST162 Project
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Wed, 09 June 2004 14:15
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nice... post picks when u get it in
for the wheels, its the wrong offset not springs.
Where the shoe fits onto the strut wont change if u lower or raise the car. I had the same problem and i need like an 1" spacer... so i sold the rims (there wr sparco style)
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Epping, Sydney
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Re: ALLMOTOR Celica ST162 Project
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Wed, 09 June 2004 14:17
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Long time no speak Steven!
Exciting dude, can't wait for an update
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South Australia
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Re: ALLMOTOR Celica ST162 Project
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Mon, 14 June 2004 06:48
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That is why I completely refuse to speed unless it was a life or death situation! It's just not worth it, best to save the crazy shiznit for the race/rally track.
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