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new exhaust for my SV21, any ideas?
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Thu, 26 February 2004 03:47
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hey all,
i have recently bought an SV21 Camry and had all of the suspension replaced. its handling like a dream at the moment, but unfortunately like most SV21's of its age, the exhaust is sounding ghastly. Now im left with the decision of getting the exhaust replaced with a stock exhaust or maybe going for a bit of extra performance with a sports exhaust, nothing too flash though, im after performance, not chrome. Any ideas of rough costs or parts would be appreciated, cheers.
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Perth
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May 2003
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Re: new exhaust for my SV21, any ideas?
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Thu, 26 February 2004 05:16
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you could get a system from the cat converter back get a 2+1/4" pipe with a single muffler and an optional resonater if you dont want it to loud you will be able to get it done from any exaust shop for around $250 - $400 i reckon
but if you want to go the hole hog get extractors a strait threw cat then the pipe setup that i said above.
make sense? 
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February 2004
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Re: new exhaust for my SV21, any ideas?
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Thu, 26 February 2004 05:23
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That sounds good, because like you said i dont want it too loud, im after a bit of a sleeper. ive got a few questions though. what sort of performance gains would i be likely to get out of that set up, and what would the price and performance be like on the extractors with the lot? thanks for your help btw
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Canberra
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February 2004
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Re: new exhaust for my SV21, any ideas?
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Thu, 26 February 2004 05:32
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That sounds good, because like you said i dont want it too loud, im after a bit of a sleeper. ive got a few questions though. what sort of performance gains would i be likely to get out of that set up, and what would the price and performance be like on the extractors with the lot? thanks for your help btw
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Perth
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May 2003
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Re: new exhaust for my SV21, any ideas?
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Thu, 26 February 2004 05:33
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you will notice a big performance increase because the stock exaust sytem would be very restrictive and probably have like 3 mufflers 
so my advice is to save up and get the whole lot done extractors strait threw cat 2 + 1/4" pipe single sports muffler with a resonater at the back i got a 3" tip put on my resonater looks sweet
youd be looking at around the $800 reigon i think your best bet is to either ring up exaust places or go in there
you wont be disapointed with the sound/performance gain
keep in mind it wont be a v8 supercar with an exaust sytem
the other thing you could do is get a pod setup with cold air intake or ket a k&n panel filter and cai into the air box
ask about it when you ring exaust places they usually will do it (decent places) no k mart auto 
hope that helps
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I supported Toymods
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Perth
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August 2002
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Re: new exhaust for my SV21, any ideas?
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Thu, 26 February 2004 08:19
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standard exhaust is already 2 and 1/4 inch all the way through, mandrel bent but still has 2 90degree turns in it with this huge muffler at the back
i was once quoted about $250 for exhaust, $700 if i wanted tuned extractors (headers) as well, this was from carline or something
what brand suspension did ya grab? cause im looking at KYB gear as a cheap-but-better-than-stock alternative (since mine is still stock shockies and springs... nearly 15 years young now!)
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Perth
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May 2003
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Re: new exhaust for my SV21, any ideas?
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Thu, 26 February 2004 08:52
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i thought 2 1/2 would be a bit dronie on a na 4cyl ?
i just got some konis and king springs installed made a huge differnce on handling
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sydney
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April 2003
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Re: new exhaust for my SV21, any ideas?
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Thu, 26 February 2004 10:12
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concerning the performance gains, talk to Iceman. he has had a full exhaust system doen and netted some worthwhile gains
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Canberra
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February 2004
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Re: new exhaust for my SV21, any ideas?
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Thu, 26 February 2004 12:36
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 allright, i will try a few local exhaust places and see what their quotes are for both the extracted full system or just the after cat converter job. at the moment im thinking around $800 sounds like a good deal for extractors and 2+1/4" etc. the engine is 88Kw stock and at the moment is suffering from atleast one exhaust leak so im guessing i will see a significant boost. The only remaining obstacle after that is getting the ECU Chip replaced because it is playing up something shocking at the moment. someone suggested a celica chip for a bit of extra hp but im not sure if thats possible. thanks for your help too its appreciated
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Sydney
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September 2003
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Re: new exhaust for my SV21, any ideas?
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Thu, 26 February 2004 12:54
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what exactly is playing up on ur ECU?
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February 2004
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Re: new exhaust for my SV21, any ideas?
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Thu, 26 February 2004 13:02
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im not 100% sure actually. i put the car into the local mechanic to get it looked over and this problem left them scratching their heads. $150 worth of diagnostic work later and the best they could offer was that they got some "strange voltage readings". i asked a few people and everyone is saying ECU chip is the problem. What basically happens is the car is VERY hard to drive slowly, as in through parking lots etc because slowly accelerating to about 1800rpm, the revs start jumping up and down erratically with a result similiar to stomping the accelerator to the floor and then letting it all the way out and then repeating at a fast rate. if i do this in neutral, i can make my revs jump up and down between about 800rpm and 3800 rpm without moving my foot at all. when this happens and the car is in gear, its whiplash central. i have no idea what it could be but like i said the "experts" reckon ECU
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Location:
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February 2004
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Re: new exhaust for my SV21, any ideas?
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Thu, 26 February 2004 14:35
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could anyone tell me what sort of performance gains in terms of Kw i could expect with the extracted exhaust set up?
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Sydney
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September 2003
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Re: new exhaust for my SV21, any ideas?
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Thu, 26 February 2004 23:14
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I would say 15kw @ flywheel.Around that figure I would hope.
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Re: new exhaust for my SV21, any ideas?
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Thu, 26 February 2004 23:19
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thats not too bad at all. ive seen the 3SFE 2L twin cam engine quoted as having 88Kw, but im not sure if thats at the wheels or at the flywheel, so considering its probably lost a few due to the crappy exhaust i have on it at the moment, i think that 15Kw at the flywheel would be a fairly noticeable difference. thanks for that
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Location:
Canberra
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February 2004
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Re: new exhaust for my SV21, any ideas?
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Thu, 26 February 2004 23:36
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would there be any particular brand of extractor that anyone could recommend?
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Perth
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Re: new exhaust for my SV21, any ideas?
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Fri, 27 February 2004 01:21
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genie should make one there nice extractors and are blue 
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Location:
Sydney
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September 2003
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Re: new exhaust for my SV21, any ideas?
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Fri, 27 February 2004 02:00
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I heard from a person in the auto industry that, they dont make genie anymore, but you can get others.
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sydney,nsw.oz.
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July 2002
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Re: new exhaust for my SV21, any ideas?
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Fri, 27 February 2004 02:07
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Jinx,
Personally I would save my money and spend it on some new Tyres and wheels or suspension.
I think you would be lucky to get an extra 2kw out of a new + bigger exhaust ! And that would only be @ 5000rpm +.
Think about it : 88kw + 15kw =103Kw
Thats almost 20% extra !
I DONT THINK SO ! IF IT WAS THAT EASY WHY WOULDN'T IT COME FROM THE FACTORY LIKE THAT ?
Buy some nice 15" wheels with Bridgestones or Falkens + New Strut Inserts.
Safe driving !
T.
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Location:
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September 2003
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Location:
sydney,nsw.oz.
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July 2002
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Re: new exhaust for my SV21, any ideas?
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Fri, 27 February 2004 03:20
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OK  thats the after graph, now lets see the before !
I'm not doubting you but where is the graph Before ?
Cheers
T.
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Perth
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Re: new exhaust for my SV21, any ideas?
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Fri, 27 February 2004 05:04
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2kw
have you ever seen a factory exaust system? , especially on a camry (something stupid like 3 mufflers and some very crap headers ) they make it like that from the factory so its quite and cheap.
they are SO restrictive
i know what i would be getting (and it aint wheels
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each to there own
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Montrose, VIC
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May 2002
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Re: new exhaust for my SV21, any ideas?
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Sat, 28 February 2004 13:08
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Here's a thought: get a mate, get them to drive your car as hard as possible, and follow just behind, having a listen to the vacuum cleaner noises the stocky pipe makes. You may even be horrified!
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Canberra
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February 2004
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Re: new exhaust for my SV21, any ideas?
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Sun, 29 February 2004 00:56
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mate, im too scared to listen to my current exhaust at all, its such a piece of shit, its sounds like a thousand tin cans getting thrown down a flight of stairs, and thats from inside with the windows down. i will definetely be getting my exhaust replaced, mainly because my old one is completely buggered, so i might as well get a bit of extra performance out of it while im at it. to FWDCelica, i know what you're talking about with the wheels etc, but i just got all new macpherson struts and suspension bushes put on as well as four new tires. so now exhaust is taking a bit of priority
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Campbelltown, NSW, Austra...
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January 2004
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Re: new exhaust for my SV21, any ideas?
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Sun, 29 February 2004 06:22
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I got a 2 1/4 cat back system and only got 53.9kw on the dyno, so if you want the performance u would probably need to go extractors and a cold-air intake.
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Canberra
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February 2004
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Re: new exhaust for my SV21, any ideas?
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Sun, 29 February 2004 11:40
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only 53.9? thats a fair amount less than i would hope to see. is that before or after the cold air intake and POD?
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Sydney
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September 2003
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May 2002
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Re: new exhaust for my SV21, any ideas?
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Sat, 10 April 2004 12:47
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Well my vague memories from when I did my whole exhaust system, I got Genie extractors with mandrel bent pipes. I ask about diameter and the exhaust guy said that since the tail of the extract is 2", you might as well have 2" all the way. I also had a hi flow cat and two resonators with a wide body turbo muffler because I wanted it as quite as possible.
When I dyno'ed my car against a comparitive stock Camry I calculated the engine was a factory rate 95Kw. At the wheel there was a 5-6kw gain on stock car.
My muffler now has a big bloody hole in it and it sounds like a V8! When I was young I thought it was cool to have a loud car but I find it embrassing having a conversation with my date in the car then to hit a hill and have a loud drone of an angry 3S-FE in the cabin.
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