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"Stage 3" ~carbon fiber~
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Fri, 27 February 2004 16:39
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carbon fiber
I have done cf for many years, and with the way you guys throw around money on ( imho ) SHIT parts...sure man they are pretty,
but frankly, low quality, mass produced sheite, i have to post.
You can do alot better guys.
I will design and manufacture a carbon fiber components to order.
Custom designed, one-of-a-kind, carbon fiber/kevlar/ceramic
components.
There is not much more to it than that.
I have a honeycomb design, that i'm sure is one of the cheapest and most cost effective out there.
I build stuff like, suspension components, body panels, wings,
really any type of component, including stainless, 6061, cr-mo, or exotics.
" STAGE 3 WEIGHT REDUCTION "
components.
if interested in "stage 3"
hey ... that's the company name "Stage 3"
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Location:
Adelaide
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January 2004
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Re: "Stage 3" ~carbon fiber~
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Fri, 27 February 2004 18:34
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quote me for an AE86 carbon fibre bonnet
cheers
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Location:
Brisbane
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February 2003
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Re: "Stage 3" ~carbon fiber~
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Fri, 27 February 2004 20:24
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If you could make carbon *replicas* of the Group A Celica GT4 ST185 bonnets, you'd make a mint.
Many people around the world are chasing a good one.
Make sure its moulded off the real thing, not something terrible and out of proportion. There are some real shockers out there... that use copies of the hood vent and it just looks wrong.
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Colac, Victoria
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May 2002
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Re: "Stage 3" ~carbon fiber~
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Sat, 28 February 2004 02:25
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youd need access to a genuine group A bonnet to get a proper mould witht he right dimensions and look ..
Where are you based commander ?
re gropupa bonnet - it would have to be alot cheaper than a genuine one if it was to work , though any group A panelling for Gt4's would be good to have readily accessable
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January 2004
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Re: "Stage 3" ~carbon fiber~
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Sun, 29 February 2004 01:37
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I'm in Canada.
I would guess that most cars would be availiable to me.
The 86 sprinter or 92 would be no problem, 82 of course.
Celica, Supra, sure. Levin, Tureno ?
Throw up some more ideas/pics/links, and I'll get the ball rolling.
I have a very small amount of supplies left, and require a complete, fresh restock of everything - this is good.
I came up with a quote of $ 249 -299 AU as a general guideline, but it is still early and the numbers have not been crunched.
A more complex hood with scoop / dams might be a bit more.
Does this sound about right ?
I'm sure we can work something out.
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I supported Toymods
On probation
Location:
Brisbane, Queensland
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January 2003
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Re: "Stage 3" ~carbon fiber~
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Sun, 29 February 2004 02:09
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may be a tad hard with you in canada though 
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Location:
Colac, Victoria
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May 2002
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Re: "Stage 3" ~carbon fiber~
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Sun, 29 February 2004 02:22
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boris is right - 299 or so Australian dollars for say a group A bonnet is VERY good .. BUT - youd have to incorperate freight to us aussies ..
Unless you know of a company who would create a freighting/shipping deal with you , your grasping at straws here
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Sydney
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November 2003
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Brisbane
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Re: "Stage 3" ~carbon fiber~
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Sun, 29 February 2004 09:43
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You need to find a good distro in Australia if you are going to make this work.
Many people (including myself) are uncomfortable dealing with overseas companies due to the freight/customs problems. Look at the problems that Stuart has just had with his lost intercooler.
If you can make a top replica in CF for the Grp A bonnet and have a reliable distro in Australia, then I would think that this would be a success.
I'd pay more for a CF version of the Grp A bonnet, than the original. The Grp A bonnet is very heavy.
I reckon anything in the region of $700 AUD would be a competitive price.
I hope you do this... I want one 
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Location:
Gold Coast
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October 2002
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Re: "Stage 3" ~carbon fiber~
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Sun, 29 February 2004 10:51
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i would be interested in a ra23 bonnet if it could be landed for $500 or so. this would be in the next 4 months or so inless i locate an excelent steel bonet locally (not likely though)
thanks
Daniel
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Built it and they will come.
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Sun, 29 February 2004 16:08
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I'll check on shipping, but other sites had a full, huge, heavy bonnet shipped for $75 USD. Seems a bit high to me.
Yes, ae86 components will likely be first off the mark.
MR2 stuff will be close behind.
My intention with these products are to create true "Stage 3"
grade components. These are aircraft / aerospace grade components,and by design are built to very a low safety factor, usually 1. They are not intended, unless specified, to be direct replacements for OEM parts.
The nuts / threads would have to be steel, this means making stainless steel inserts for the critical spots.
Kah Ching
money money.
A standard 50% deposit.
I will, of course, guarantee shipping, guarantee satisfaction.
Option 2 - get my butt to Au.
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Canada
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January 2004
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cf
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Sun, 29 February 2004 16:52
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the MR2 engine cover would be $199 Au
6061-T6 inserts for threads / latch
The line forms behind the 50% money orders.
nothanks@ziplip.com
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Location:
Perth
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August 2002
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Re: "Stage 3" ~carbon fiber~
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Mon, 01 March 2004 00:10
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If you can get land a excellent quality Ae86 Levin carbon fibre bonnet, with a drop vent in the middle at a good price to Australia, Ill be up for one for sure. We will of course need pictures to see quality once built.
kind regards
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Location:
Albany WA
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October 2003
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Mon, 01 March 2004 08:28
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http://www.fensport.co.uk/partsfiles/ae86body.htm
These guys do fibreglass panels and stuff for AE-86's. Your prices would appear cometitive and shipping would be similar. Carbon fibre is more interesting . Can you give me some sort of idea on prices for-
Front quarter panels
Bonnet- Identical to stock, no vents reqd
Rear hatch
to suit an Aus Spec AE-86. Preferably bolt in, use existing hardware style of thing.
I'm willing to take a risk. If your price is right, I'll source up some cash.
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Location:
Westleigh, Sydney
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October 2003
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Re: "Stage 3" ~carbon fiber~
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Mon, 01 March 2004 08:36
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yeh i wouldnt mind a carbon bonnet for my ra28, gotta admit it would be different.
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Gold Coast
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October 2002
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Re: "Stage 3" ~carbon fiber~
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Mon, 01 March 2004 10:54
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do you have pictures of your previous work we can see?
thanks
Daniel
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Canada
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January 2004
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Sydney
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November 2003
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Re: "Stage 3" ~carbon fiber~
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Mon, 01 March 2004 23:12
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and how do we know your not going to just take our money? 
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Albany WA
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October 2003
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Re: "Stage 3" ~carbon fiber~
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Tue, 02 March 2004 05:40
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Midnight, my friend, sometimes you must have faith. Live life on the edge. Take risks. It's not actually the end of the world if you loose two grand on a bunch of body panels that never rock up. It just hurts for a bit.
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adelaide
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April 2003
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Re: "Stage 3" ~carbon fiber~
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Tue, 02 March 2004 06:01
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and then you hire the Canadian mob.. ehhh
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Location:
Melbourne
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December 2003
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Re: "Stage 3" ~carbon fiber~
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Tue, 02 March 2004 06:48
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Do they ride around on horses like the Canadian Mounted Police? 
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November 2003
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Re: "Stage 3" ~carbon fiber~
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Tue, 02 March 2004 08:04
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yeah I guess... Im going to canada at the end of the year so I guess ill just hunt him down if he pikes me...
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Location:
NSW.south coast.Drifting
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February 2004
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Re: "Stage 3" ~carbon fiber~
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Tue, 02 March 2004 08:43
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i would love one similar to the j-blood vented (think cosworth vent style) or drop vent.
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NSW
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September 2003
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Tue, 02 March 2004 09:43
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A work mate re-moulds his own bike farrings in CF.
I have been talking to him for a while about a CF decklid for my AW11 but it's hardly worth it for a one-off and not a real volume demand in oz for AW11 decklids... he just sort of does it as a hobby.
Priced up about $400 worth of materials for a mould and prototype for just an AW11 decklid. And that was without even thinking about reinforcement, hinging and latching! I thought about making a mould for civic bonnets or something but it sort of has gone on the backburner lately cause I thought there would already be heaps of that stuff out there.
The bitch is making a good mould... once you got one you can just crank the items out. The GroupA GT4 bonnet idea has resparked my interest so I'm gonna kick myself in the butt and start doing something about it again.
I know the CF decklids for AW11's go for about AU$700 in Japan... then gotta get it here. I reckon I'd nearly pay $600 for one here if they were available.
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May 2003
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Re: "Stage 3" ~carbon fiber~
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Tue, 02 March 2004 10:53
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Not to post on someone elses thread, but i am looking at producing CF bonnets for the AE86 and many other cars from other manufacturers such as Nissan and Subaru and Mitsubishi.
And although my prices are no where near as cheap the Commander, I am based in melbourne and I can be chased down in person.
I am looking for the moment in peoples interest only at this stage in OEM and Vented bonents for the AE86 there are only three types of bonnet we will be making and they range in price from AUS$800 - AUS$2000 for the real race car owner.
All bonnets are for race use only and come either with or without vents and scoops at the moment we will only be making two variations. All bonnets do however come with standard fasteners - meaning its a staight bolt up to your normal hinges and clips/ recommended that you install bonnet pins i can supply them pre drilled if necessary
Type-S] Show Quality
Full Fibreglass $790
Fibreglass + Top layer Carbon Fibre $1050
(includes shell and subframe)
Type-R] Weight Saver
Carbon Fibre with Kevlar 50/50 $1480
(inlcudes shell and subframe)
Type-X] Pro SuperLite
Full Carbonfibre shell only $1890
(Only shell)
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Oakleigh, Melbourne
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August 2003
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Re: "Stage 3" ~carbon fiber~
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Tue, 02 March 2004 14:13
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What do u mean by they are only for race use? does it mean they do not comply with roadwhorthy regulations? they obviously seem strong enough to withstand race conditions so whats the deal?
Quote me on a ta22 bonnet "Type S"
Thanks.
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Canada
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January 2004
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Re: "Stage 3" ~carbon fiber~
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Wed, 03 March 2004 01:01
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Me - I'm just a guy. Started building CF components for my bicycle 15 yeas ago. Money is not my motivation. I'm about building for the future. Can't expand the operation because I don't trust others to do the work properly.
I have a camera but no USB cable, and high speed is on order.
I can easily finance this venture, but just spent a wad on my wood-working business.
That's a refundable $150 Au deposit.
Change your mind, change it back. I don't care.
I design a full line of composites, including honey-comb structural components - use your imagination.
and thank you
Will I just take your cash.
Dude man ... do you see all these orders.... do ya !
I'd be flippin' nuts to fuck this up.
Owen
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Lost in the K hole
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May 2002
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Re: "Stage 3" ~carbon fiber~
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Wed, 03 March 2004 01:13
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owen, any word on shipping yet...
im watching this thread, and my interest is growing...
cheers
ed
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Canada
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January 2004
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Re: "Stage 3" ~carbon fiber~
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Wed, 03 March 2004 04:39
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UPS mate
http://www.ups.com/
UPS is the way to go.
o.k. o.k.
dumping every penny i'm worth into this.
STP - Stage Three Products
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I'm looking around, but shipping should be possible.
UPS is too expensive for large parts, if at all.
Smaller parts would be fine, like a cf shifter of something.
This will happen.
You will get your parts.
I will get you your parts.
Details, don't sweat the details. Everything will be fine.
The place I found ships to -
AUSRALIA
Australia 1. Sidney
2. Melbourne
Montreal or Toronto to Sydney = USD 207 per CBM w/m; USD 212 min; USD 50
doc.fee
Pls, visit our online LCL price calculator at www.WTXglobal.com
_____________________
Still too much, unless I get multiple orders and have someone there sort it out.
I'll move to Au. Let's say in July. Need a place with a workshop, and garage or barn, barn in the country is best, 100 km outside Melbourne. Got heaps-o-business. I guess I would be in this thing for the long haul.
Moving to Au.
[Updated on: Wed, 03 March 2004 15:46]
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Re: "Stage 3" ~carbon fiber~
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Wed, 03 March 2004 10:34
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the idea that carbon fibre bonnets or fibreglass ones for that matter are legal on the road is BS you cannot and i mean cannot try and tell a Cop or Vic Roads that a CF bonnet is ADR approved unless it has been crash tested.
Sadly and I mean sadly I and many others who are investing in this know that the costs involved are at least $10,000 pluys for every model of car that you design a bonnet for it will cost you that car to be crashed.
I cannot bring myself to crash anything as sexy or as nible as a AE86 or even lesser  a skyline GTR lol
With all seriousness i will not sell these bonnet with the intension that you will stick them on road cars...
Either way i am about to start production on an AE86 OEM and a Nissan Skyline R33 GTS-T Series one with Twin Reversed Intakes and two smaller vents one the top.
Please e-mail me any further queries
oz_eight6@hotmail.com
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Albany WA
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October 2003
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Re: "Stage 3" ~carbon fiber~
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Wed, 03 March 2004 18:24
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You can't come to Australia yet, you havn't quoted me for my AE-86 gear yet . I'm hoarding cash in anticipation man...
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Canada
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January 2004
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Re: "Stage 3" ~carbon fiber~
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Thu, 04 March 2004 01:35
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My supplies are on order.
Yeah, I didn't quote him , because quite frankly it's too much work. "Quote me for a whole cf car please " Come on man.
It is very cleary stated what I expect you to pay, front-end, and back-end.
Seems to me that asking for a $150 deposit for aerospace quality components is not asking too much. I have no choice but to start small. That's just the way it is, slowly build up this enterprise.
Could I jump on a plane and be there tomorrow, nope, impossible because of the date line , but I could be there in 2 days.
My brother works for a airline, and discount (free)tickets are always availiable. That's right..free tix to Au.
I've spent all my money, so, if you want parts. u know !!
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Canada
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January 2004
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Re: "Stage 3" ~carbon fiber~
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Sat, 06 March 2004 05:04
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got a camera
new batteries
new usb cable
no software.
try to get software working
batteries now dead,
still no software, no batteries, mabey one pic ( don't know )
and no closer , in fact, actually "just wasting time"
Are you sure you need pictures, because ----~~~~~~~~~........
need software for a hp 618, can't download , hp won't let you,
could order a new software cd, ( case was nicked )
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Location:
Adelaide
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June 2003
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Re: "Stage 3" ~carbon fiber~
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Sat, 06 March 2004 05:39
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hey,
dude your occupation says "crim" in your sig and youve shown nothing to say that your actually reputable, your skills should be able to be shown in some form of past work.
what your posting just sounds like bullshit to me, its all over the place, it makes you sound like a ripoff merchant. plus your prices seem way underquoted for quality custom carbon fiber work.
but like i said people arnt going to send money overseas without even seeing a registered business number, a website, prior work, you get the idea.
i could be completley wrong tho..... so apologies if i am. but like your profile says your a crim and has no email address listed or anything... think about it
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Yagoona Sydney
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December 2003
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Re: "Stage 3" ~carbon fiber~
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Sat, 06 March 2004 05:39
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how much would you charge for a s14 200sx bonnet and boot lid need them asap. very serious buyer. and with the bonnet i need a small vent were the air filter sits.
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Albany WA
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October 2003
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Re: "Stage 3" ~carbon fiber~
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Sun, 07 March 2004 04:32
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Actually, I think you'll find the only price you have quoted so far is $250-$300 for a bonnet... and I don't want a whole car. I don't think I can give a 50% deposit, as requested, if you can't give me some sort of idea. And your starting post said "anything is possible". I don't think what I'm asking for is impossible. I am interested in a product. You said you could provide the product. I ask you what it's worth, suddenly you can't produce the product. I reasoned your offer was vaild, so I made a request. Either you are full of shit or you can give me a price, I can give you the cash and you can give me what I want. What's hard about that?
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Canada
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January 2004
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Re: "Stage 3" ~carbon fiber~
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Sun, 07 March 2004 05:37
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The thing is - it's very simple.
I must filter internet window shoppers.
I must
I MUST I MUST I MUST.
xxxeditxxx
You require evidence of my ability, my car WILL be equipped with a carbon fiber brake pedal tomorrow.( This was actually typed BEFORE I read the post questioning my abilities,see nova thread)
As far as overseas accounts - I am working on getting a Aussie dealer, I have my pick of several eagar businessmen.
Please be patient. This was just a idea only days ago, and I have UBER HEAPS of mates bugging me. Please be patient.
As for prices...
fine
$150 per Lb lay-ups
$250 per Lb Honey-comb / custom
This is the only fair and workable pricing structure.
I know for a fact that i can deliver at these rates.
$150 Au refundable deposit required before any discussions occur.
And my typing - glad you noticed . I'm a scientist/ engineer.
Engineer first . mechanical electrical computer etc .
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Location:
Canada
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January 2004
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Re: "Stage 3" ~carbon fiber~
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Sun, 07 March 2004 05:42
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Tell me how much you want it to weigh - and if you want the high quality honey-comb structure.
100% custom products
100% customer satisfaction
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Location:
Canada
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January 2004
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Re: "Stage 3" ~carbon fiber~
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Sun, 07 March 2004 05:50
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oh yeah....
not to rub it in ,
but
earlier this evening I sent $40 overseas to a -fly-by-night- operation known as
toymods
I'm I loser.
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Location:
Canada
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January 2004
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Re: "Stage 3" ~carbon fiber~
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Sun, 07 March 2004 06:13
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and
those desperate for pictures-
I have my high speed bundle installed, but the line is not upgraded
I can use a linux program - gphoto2 , but my compiler is broken,
(undefined reference to atexit.c)
and i'll get that fixed net week when i get high-speed.
so monday or tuesday here
tuesday - wednesday there.
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Brisbane
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July 2002
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Re: "Stage 3" ~carbon fiber~
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Mon, 08 March 2004 01:29
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man that hurt my head... all that reading and not even a single picture
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Melbourne
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January 2003
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Re: "Stage 3" ~carbon fiber~
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Mon, 08 March 2004 01:40
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Personally. I reckon it is more secure/safe dealing with international deals. Because there are bank details. Addresses and other miscelaneous ways of tracing people down. It has only happened once to me. And boy did they pay.
Anyway. I think if anything anyone and everyone deserves one chance. OZ86. He did mention that bonnets won't be nearly as strong as oem on his first or second post. No need to go into detail with crash testing e.t.c. besides a standard bonnet lock on a 20 year old car sure aint as strong as its gonna be. They do tend to flip up on u on windy days at high speed. I got some photos i think. If u'r gonna be using a carbon bonnet. U'd be wanting bonnet pins and or reversed hinges.
We'd firstly wanna see previous work. And a credit card number. Home address. Working address. Vehicle rego. Birth certificate. Health care card e.t.c. Jokin.
Well if anything i wouldn't mind giving this a shot. 150 bux. If someone is willig to screw me over for the initial deposit they got alot more issues they gotta worry about.
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I supported Toymods
Toymods Club Secretary
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Sydney
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Re: "Stage 3" ~carbon fiber~
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Mon, 08 March 2004 13:56
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lets give this guy the chance to prove hes legit
if not the wiltz is in the us of a (last i read) and im sure he woudlnt mind making a visit for fellow toymods members that have been screwed over with the right incentive..perhaps 20% of owed monies
commander if you are serious about this ive got a fair few ideas to share with you that may or may not push your business to a worldwide level yet at least are worthy of considering yet do yourself a favour and get yourself approved by the toymods board then at least you will ahve some reputation within this formums and that can be a starting point...if not the doors that way and please deposit your account in the "not to return" bin
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January 2004
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Re: "Stage 3" ~carbon fiber~
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Tue, 09 March 2004 07:25
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I can tell by the snow u'r really in canada.
At least hes not in mexico downing tequila. 
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I supported Toymods
Toymods Club Secretary
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Re: "Stage 3" ~carbon fiber~
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Tue, 09 March 2004 08:11
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| commander wrote on Tue, 09 March 2004 14:38 |
but ya gotta respond to the pm's i send ya !!!!!!
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If Danny has received a PM from you, then the topic will be raised at the next Board meeting where it can be discussed properly.
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