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Les
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icon14.gif  Neons ! Thu, 11 March 2004 13:09 Go to next message
Are they defectable in Sydney ?

I kinda like neons... My mate just came back from NZ and told me that because of different defect rules, neons are legal !!

Anywho, neons are the IN THING there !! The cars look like they are out of Fast & Furious heheheh (yes yes rice)

I think neon suits some cars and I think they are pretty cool. However I do not recommend them on older style cars.

Ps all the cars with neons in Syd that I have seen suckass

Laughing

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Re: Neons ! Thu, 11 March 2004 13:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I want dark blue neons in the footwells of my car, I like that look. all the others I've seen are pretty ordinary
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Re: Neons ! Thu, 11 March 2004 13:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
what.. as in inside the car ??

hard to drive man ! all that glare !

has to be exterior
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Re: Neons ! Thu, 11 March 2004 13:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I want to wire them up to the door light switch - not on all the time Razz
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Re: Neons ! Thu, 11 March 2004 13:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yeah, in the footwells would be cool when the internal light is on. Very Happy

I'm interested to know if external neons and washer jet lights are defectable in Victoria.
I don't want those jet lights myself, but I see a lot of them about, so I'm just curious. I may however get under car neons at some point... you know, after getting a good car.
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Re: Neons ! Thu, 11 March 2004 13:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I ahve dark blue neons in my footwell... they look really really good.. chicks love it.. turned on by a light up switch underneath head deck
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Re: Neons ! Thu, 11 March 2004 22:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Im not sure wether its defectable in NSW, but i have been pulled over and given a warning, being told that "the only lights on a car can be yellow or white", anyway i belive the is a fine involved. However having said this if all you are doing is putting neons in your foot well, then it shouldn't be noticable. Basicly you are find to have them on when the car is stoped, but when ur moving its at your own risk.
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Re: Neons ! Thu, 11 March 2004 23:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Freak yeah i dont mind neons. i had them in my sub box, eq and amp enclosure, under the dash in the foot well (which is prity cool when driving around, (doesnt glow in your face at all), mine where all red. i should get them all back in soon seeing our sound-off season is starting again. Evil or Very Mad

i am sure i even left a couple small ones under the car somewhere..... Shocked
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Re: Neons ! Thu, 11 March 2004 23:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i have blue neons in the footwells, and i have been told to keep them off whilst driving due to the distraction (and its true! nearly had an accident when i got them! learnt that one quick)
mine are just activated by a switch i installed to one of those spare plates near the steering wheel and coin change holder thingy.
considering taking them out thou since i hardley use them, might put them in the computer case instead, if they'll fit (over 40cm i think)
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Re: Neons ! Thu, 11 March 2004 23:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I use mine whenever im driving at night.. u dont see the tube at all.. so all u get is a blue inside of the car and its not much distraction.. been pulled over by police with them on about 10 times(all for different reasons) and they looked in the car and didnt say anything
one even said nice neons
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Re: Neons ! Thu, 11 March 2004 23:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I have a mate with blue neons in all his footwells and green neons at the front at back under his car.

Its a corolla and we fittingly finished the car off with a massive sticker across the rear window..... GOT RICE?

hahahaha its classic, he half did it for a pay out and half because he loves it. It gets alot of laughs. Cool


EDIT: Was under the impression that neons are defectable as im sure there would be an ADR they dont meet.

[Updated on: Thu, 11 March 2004 23:52]

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Re: Neons ! Fri, 12 March 2004 00:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yep i have to agree blue neons that light up the footwells is a nice look, however i'm a tad partial to them going underneath a car... as for legality i'm pretty sure its DAMN illegal coz you get sunday drivers distracted by your pretty lights and they end up running over little johnny.
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Re: Neons ! Fri, 12 March 2004 00:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
boris wrote on Fri, 12 March 2004 11:04

Yep i have to agree blue neons that light up the footwells is a nice look, however i'm a tad partial to them going underneath a car... as for legality i'm pretty sure its DAMN illegal coz you get sunday drivers distracted by your pretty lights and they end up running over little johnny.

little johnny deserves to die Laughing
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Re: Neons ! Fri, 12 March 2004 00:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
From what I understand I think it is the colour of the neon that causes the problem rather than the neons themselves (externally) from my point of view, if your improving the visability of you car after dark what is the problem as long as your not blinding other road user (which neons don't) I think however the only colour you can use is white (and possibly Black Light) as most other colours have a designation on the road. (ie blue - emergency services, red - brakes, orange - indicators, I think in some states green is emergency services as well as go lights.) This goes for the washer lights as well as they are generally red, blue or green.
I think the last rule I read on the subject stated that one can have neons fitted but only can only be on when the vehicle is stationary and the motor not running.
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Re: Neons ! Fri, 12 March 2004 00:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yep Lambolica what i thought aswell!

[Updated on: Fri, 12 March 2004 00:42]

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Re: Neons ! Fri, 12 March 2004 01:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dude, you want to be careful with neons as lights. I have a green neon in my room above my blind so it just lights the room up green. I had it on one night while I was in there for a few hours, then I went outside and literally everything was this blood red. I thought I had stuffed my eyes totally. Took them about 20 mins to get back to normal. Talk about a weird experience. After that I dont want neons where I can see them. Smile But I will have some below my car. Smile
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Re: Neons ! Fri, 12 March 2004 01:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
In my Cressida there is a deep pocket in the front doors for maps or papers and stuff. If you put neons in those they look awesome.

You just see the glow of the neon on the side of the door lining right up to the armrest/doorhandle. It looks cool and is not glarey like some othe locations.

They are easy to wire up too because the doors already have little red lights in the corners that you could tack a wire onto. Smile
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Re: Neons ! Fri, 12 March 2004 01:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
how would the Gt4 with blue neons underneath look - oppinions ?
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Re: Neons ! Fri, 12 March 2004 02:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
It would look like a wannabe Lancer or Honda. Rolling Eyes

The GT4 doesn't need em. It looks awesome already. It doesn't need makeup to look good. Smile
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Re: Neons ! Fri, 12 March 2004 02:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Shraka wrote on Fri, 12 March 2004 00:18

Yeah, in the footwells would be cool when the internal light is on. Very Happy

I'm interested to know if external neons and washer jet lights are defectable in Victoria.
I don't want those jet lights myself, but I see a lot of them about, so I'm just curious. I may however get under car neons at some point... you know, after getting a good car.


the untouchable has squirter neons on his sa63- cops pulled him over (one headlight) and he asked whether they were illegal.

the cop (and a particularly arseholeish one at that) said no- only if they are 'blinding' or 'dazzling'

so there ya go-


and draven-

my footwell light in my ma61 is stuffed- its on all the time, and it looks pretty damn cool. i actually dont mind a coloured interior globe, and maybe a glovebox light?

bit of fun, i guess. Very Happy
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Re: Neons ! Fri, 12 March 2004 03:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
What about in the engine bay? Ive got a blue top ae82 corolla and i now have a spare wire and switch where my driving lights are no more because i put a AE92 bar on.


Im pretty sure it will be illegal to have them on whilst driving though im not 100% sure. As it would distract other drivers but look cool coming out the twincam grille.
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Re: Neons ! Fri, 12 March 2004 03:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
my mates got deffected in a car park, with the motor off, sitting stationary, because he had neons on, one car had blue. another purple. another green


im gunna put neons under and inside the new car. and have them turn on when the car door opens. plus a seperate switch to turn em on when the door is closed.

the new car is black, and its going to use blue lights.

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Re: Neons ! Fri, 12 March 2004 05:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I am going to eventually put green ones under my car. Smile Also, I like the door pocket idea. Might think about that as well.
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Re: Neons ! Fri, 12 March 2004 05:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
On a side note to this topic. I did a search to find a legal rule on this and couldn't find one the only way I guess to find out would be to interpret the ADR's and get somthing out of that.
and on that the last time I checked I beleive the rules for side indicators was that they had to be visible from the rear side of the vehicle and no nore than 600mm from the road. Front and rear indicators the same. that would make the indicators in the Merc's rear vision mirrors non-ADR compliant and therefore illegal?

Somthing to ponder...
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Re: Neons ! Fri, 12 March 2004 05:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
in my opinion, the only good neon is one which replaces the interior light in a white color

not my taste really Smile
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Re: Neons ! Fri, 12 March 2004 06:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Classique71 wrote on Fri, 12 March 2004 12:44

how would the Gt4 with blue neons underneath look - oppinions ?

I think they would look awesome. Awesome cars are the only ones that should have neons. Clapped out dirty VNs with rice rims and neons just crappy IMHO.

But I dunno how legal they are. Green isn't anything other than stop lights in Victoria so perhaps we are allowed green?

I'll have to see if I have any friends who know road cops... or whatever they are called.
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Re: Neons ! Fri, 12 March 2004 09:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ok, this may sound like a really stupid question but how do you mount the neons in the footwell??? Do you just drill a hole through the floor and screw it in or what???
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Re: Neons ! Fri, 12 March 2004 09:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
double sided tape.....
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Re: Neons ! Fri, 12 March 2004 10:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Les, you really miss that Lancer don't you? Laughing

Anyway girls, blue light is illegal, it's reserved for emergency services only. You can and will get defected for them. I've told many people that, those that don't listen end up finding out the hard way.
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Re: Neons ! Fri, 12 March 2004 11:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jag7799 wrote on Fri, 12 March 2004 11:07

boris wrote on Fri, 12 March 2004 11:04

Yep i have to agree blue neons that light up the footwells is a nice look, however i'm a tad partial to them going underneath a car... as for legality i'm pretty sure its DAMN illegal coz you get sunday drivers distracted by your pretty lights and they end up running over little johnny.

little johnny deserves to die Laughing


[/simpsons quote]
McGarnicle: hey, I'm tryin' to eat here...
[/end simpsons quote]

as for neons...
*shivvers*
imo - makes the car look like a sleazy strip joint.
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Re: Neons ! Fri, 12 March 2004 12:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Quote:

imo - makes the car look like a sleazy strip joint.



and??? nah seriously though, they CAN and thats a very subjective can look good on certain cars, i hate seeing civics with them underneath but i like the footwells... my mates got them in the footwells and then we also put some under the back of the front seats so the entire floor glows blue!
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Re: Neons ! Fri, 12 March 2004 12:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
swankiedude wrote on Fri, 12 March 2004 20:30

Ok, this may sound like a really stupid question but how do you mount the neons in the footwell??? Do you just drill a hole through the floor and screw it in or what???

well u dotn screw into the floor at all.. cause u put them right up the back in the very bottom of ur dash and try to make the tube completely invisible from eye from anywhere in the car unless u stick ur head down there.
Drill little holes and screw them in.
9 inch neon are enough and light up my whole car.. and thats without even being able to see the tube...
tube being visible looks tacky and makes it too bright/distacting for the eyes.
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icon7.gif  Re: Neons ! Fri, 12 March 2004 12:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Nark wrote on Fri, 12 March 2004 21:14

Les, you really miss that Lancer don't you? Laughing



u read me like a story book Max Very Happy

just checking how many of these Toymodders have 'some' degree of rice in them

IMO its rice, but i like it ! hehehe

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Re: Neons ! Fri, 12 March 2004 12:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Shraka wrote on Fri, 12 March 2004 17:20

Classique71 wrote on Fri, 12 March 2004 12:44

how would the Gt4 with blue neons underneath look - oppinions ?

Awesome cars are the only ones that should have neons. Clapped out dirty VNs with rice rims and neons just crappy IMHO.



too true !! good call mate
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Re: Neons ! Fri, 12 March 2004 14:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Neons are illegal in sydney its a $76 fine plus defect ive coped it many times. Both interior and exterior neons are illegal everylight in the car must remain standard.
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Re: Neons ! Fri, 12 March 2004 14:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
FWIW Neons are perfectly legal in WA

As long as you can't see the tube, and they don't flash, pulse, what have you.

I'm still trying to get my hands on the form that you put into your car so that if a cop tries to sticker you for them, you can show him that.
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Re: Neons ! Fri, 12 March 2004 23:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
that was my understanding.. legal if u cant see the tube from anywhere outside the car
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Re: Neons ! Sat, 13 March 2004 03:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
there's a topic about this elsewhere (prob about washer leds) but a number of people advised that the forward facing lights on a car can be white (park or headlight) or orange (indicator).

red & blue are reserved for emergency services (fire, ambo, police) plus i've noticed that ranger's cars in national parks have green. There's also pilot lights (colour unknown) for cars leading large vehicles but they tend to use the cops these days.

but all this is academic, i'm sure that there's an ADR that says crapola imports like hyundai and neon should only be driven in carparks by learner drivers.. Wink
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Re: Neons ! Sat, 13 March 2004 03:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I'd like to find an actual writen verification of the law on neons. (or for that matter a downloadable version of the ADR's) but all my powers of search have only found that they are legal in WA if the tube cannot be seen and the light is a steady light (not pulsing as CrUZsida has correctly stated) as for the other states how can the police fine you if they are the only ones with the knowledge the rule exists? I can't find any law on the net about it. the only way I worked out what I posted previously was by interprting the ADR's and applying them to Neons also basically what thechuckster said.
I might have to wander into a cop shop and ask Rolling Eyes
As I also want to find out the law on fog lamps.

[Updated on: Sat, 13 March 2004 03:40]

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Re: Neons ! Sat, 13 March 2004 05:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
u want 2 c neons c my lights page on page 2
http://members.cardomain.com/jackalscorolla
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Re: Neons ! Sat, 13 March 2004 06:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
They're illegal on the exterior. Actually you can have them on whilst your not moving...otherwise they're illegal. Dont think they would be on the inside, coz i've got them and never been pulled over...even when i was breath tested..

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Re: Neons ! Sat, 13 March 2004 07:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
<voice of Mo the barman>
... arrgh... oh my god ...my eyes...i can't see no more, homer...
</voice>

geez, that a lot of red lights for the inside/outside of one car? and none of them are brake or tail lights?

seriously tho - with all that glare, if you hit someone/thing at night, it'd be a fair call for the cops to say you were distracted/affected by the glare of your own lights therefore you might contribute to an accident..

...personally, i hate glare from poorly adjusted lights and them stupid driving/fog lamps that people use when its nighttime ... your lights, i'm afraid, would only add to that optical pollution.
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Re: Neons ! Sat, 13 March 2004 07:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Neons ! Mon, 15 March 2004 20:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
well from what i heard in wa you can use neons but not certain colors like blue and red since there emergency veicle lights.
But still they look cool but they are a distraction cause if your drive along and see a car with neons under the car your gonna look.
Otherwise if you wanna know just go to a police station and ask but they'll proberly tell you there illegal just to annoy you Very Happy
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Re: Neons ! Tue, 16 March 2004 09:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
no, the police will tell you that because neons are gay
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Re: Neons ! Tue, 16 March 2004 10:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i want some black light you know the light that shows up white heaps. some of those in the foot wells of my car would look good especially if ur wearing white shoes like volleys or even white pants Laughing
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Re: Neons ! Wed, 17 March 2004 03:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
sightly off topic but my bike (99 Honda CBR250RR) has red neons under it the previous owner installed them.......I think it is gay! Very Happy Laughing
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Re: Neons ! Wed, 17 March 2004 05:02 Go to previous message
my cousin used to have a civic with GLOW4U plates it had every type of neon available on it.. i'll see if i can dig up a pic...

it had a light that has the like "lightning" inside and when you touch it it goes to your hand sorta thing
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