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Pod Filter on carby
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Sat, 27 March 2004 01:31
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Would this screw anything up, the mechanic i work with said it would, but would it? cause i can get free piping in filter from work, so why not do it ay!( oh yeh 4KC )
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Re: Pod Filter on carby
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Sat, 27 March 2004 01:45
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what type of carby setup - a downdraft , or side draft ..
if sidedraft - just make up a sealed airbox to bolt to the carby - then run say a 60mm flex tube pipe to behind the lights and mount a boxed pod on that ..
Simple , but really a waste of cash for a 4K..
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Sat, 27 March 2004 01:47
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its a down draft
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Re: Pod Filter on carby
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Sat, 27 March 2004 01:57
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how do you plan to mate a pod to a downdraft , out of curiousity ?
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Re: Pod Filter on carby
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Sat, 27 March 2004 02:05
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some pipes n cable ties should do it  i thought i could just stick a pipe on top with a bend and some more piping going to the head light part 
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Re: Pod Filter on carby
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Sat, 27 March 2004 05:15
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just take the air filter out of the tennis raqueit looking thingy on top of the carb n run some piping from the inlet (handle) down to a pod near the light
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Sat, 27 March 2004 13:23
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or ya could just not worry about it and not waste ya money on a point less mod!
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Re: Pod Filter on carby
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Sun, 28 March 2004 03:48
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What are you trying to achieve?
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Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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Re: Pod Filter on carby
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Sun, 28 March 2004 04:11
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well, after trying a few things..
if you have stock motor with aisan carb, the stock air filte housing is restrictive.
EDIT: the stock paper air filter IS NOT the restriction. you will find this out if you run a flat top and bottom plate without the sides, but it IS noisy.
i used PVC pipe to relocate the stock paper filter over near the fuel pump... it removed restriction, but was bloody noisy.
i've also used piping to relocate a foam type filter with similar results..
this will give a little better performance at highway speed, but thats about it.
routing a pipe to duct cold air, but not sealing it to the air filter seems best.
currently i have a 2" high paper filter from redline, on my downdraught weber.. this is less restrictive than most things i've tried, but hot air is still a problem.
while fun to try, it really is a waste of time putting a pod filter on a stock 4K.. even a modded 4K a pod is wasteful  you will need largish diamter pipe not to create a restriction.. with 2" flexi hose, i found performance dropped.
Cya, Stewart
[Updated on: Sun, 28 March 2004 04:24]
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Re: Pod Filter on carby
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Sun, 28 March 2004 07:06
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Thanks Oldcorllas, nah im just doing it for the sake of it lol somthing to do  , have you got pics of your little contraptions?
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Re: Pod Filter on carby
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Sun, 28 March 2004 07:13
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nah im just doing it for the sake of it lol somthing to do
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What a good reason. Send your surplus money to me, that's something to do too and I promise I'll make (more) productive use of it!
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Re: Pod Filter on carby
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Sun, 28 March 2004 07:17
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oh this isnt costing anything, free parts from work 
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Re: Pod Filter on carby
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Sun, 28 March 2004 07:52
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In that case my constructive input is that my mate's TE Gemini featured at one point a Simota pod screwed straight onto the downdraft 32/36 Weber carburettor, with an accommodating 5" hole saw hole in the bonnet.
Total exposure above the bonnet line was about 4", no kidding he seriously drove around with it like this no scoop or anything. 
Is your KE70 the silver one with AE71 front, driving lights, antennas and fibreglass that parks on Station Street in Box Hill out the front of the Japanese Drift Technician panel shop?
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Sun, 28 March 2004 07:56
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nah its not, my ke70 is my avatar...
i dont think id go to the extrem of your mate, i'll just work my way around with pipe and elbow bends lol
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Re: Pod Filter on carby
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Sun, 28 March 2004 10:39
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| ke70_3SGTE wrote on Sun, 28 March 2004 17:06 |
Thanks Oldcorllas, nah im just doing it for the sake of it lol somthing to do , have you got pics of your little contraptions?
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nope, and it's really really worht it to take pics of them either
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Re: Pod Filter on carby
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Sun, 28 March 2004 11:09
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| SeptemberSquallIndustries wrote on Sun, 28 March 2004 17:52 |
Is your KE70 the silver one with AE71 front, driving lights, antennas and fibreglass that parks on Station Street in Box Hill out the front of the Japanese Drift Technician panel shop?
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LOL I know the car you mean, that's one dodgy bodykit!
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Re: Pod Filter on carby
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Sun, 28 March 2004 11:25
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i have a 3sge 100% stock..seriously, would a good quality pod filter make any differeance what so ever?..and wouold i have to mount it onto the AFM thingy?
thanks guys
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Re: Pod Filter on carby
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Sun, 28 March 2004 11:35
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Realistically? No. Cool air induction to the standard airbox would probably be minor benefit. Often it is said that factory paper elements offer amongst the best filtration you can get.
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Re: Pod Filter on carby
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Sun, 28 March 2004 11:58
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| SeptemberSquallIndustries wrote on Sun, 28 March 2004 21:05 |
Realistically? No. Cool air induction to the standard airbox would probably be minor benefit. Often it is said that factory paper elements offer amongst the best filtration you can get.
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Of course they do.
But by giving good filtration, they cause restriction.
Hence why a performance mod is replacing them.
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Re: Pod Filter on carby
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Mon, 29 March 2004 14:55
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thank you for that info..it took me like an hour to read all 5 pages but now im done and have a much better understanding on the matter..i still think i might go with a pod filter..but i am thinking of making better piping with out the ridges..and air box..with the stock air flow ocming into the ox plus an additional cold air flow pipe coming inot it as well..i might even try a few of those tricks along the way..but then again i probly wont cos im extremely lazy
anyone actually tryed this method? with the botle and water etc
thanks
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Re: Pod Filter on carby
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Mon, 29 March 2004 15:23
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it would flow even better if there was nothing there
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Re: Pod Filter on carby
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Tue, 30 March 2004 05:14
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All I'm trying to demonstrate is that in many cases an appropriately sized paper filter will create practically no pressure drop and, compared with the remainder of the intake, is of little concern. Combined with the factory-endorsed filtration capability, why would you pay money to change?
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Re: Pod Filter on carby
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Tue, 30 March 2004 09:18
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what you could do is:
1. cut hole in bonet
2. buy real big v8 style intake on the bonet
3. set up POD filter on a straight piece of pipe going straight up
cold air + it would look real funny
just a suggestion this has got me thinking about my car hehe
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Re: Pod Filter on carby
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Tue, 30 March 2004 09:51
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thats a good plan!! but not a gigantic boonet scoop, just like a little like looking one! lol
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Re: Pod Filter on carby
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Tue, 30 March 2004 10:54
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| SeptemberSquallIndustries wrote on Sun, 28 March 2004 17:52 |
In that case my constructive input is that my mate's TE Gemini featured at one point a Simota pod screwed straight onto the downdraft 32/36 Weber carburettor, with an accommodating 5" hole saw hole in the bonnet.
Total exposure above the bonnet line was about 4", no kidding he seriously drove around with it like this no scoop or anything.
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what you could do is:
1. cut hole in bonet
2. buy real big v8 style intake on the bonet
3. set up POD filter on a straight piece of pipe going straight up
cold air + it would look real funny
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