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Re: RIP: W57
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Mon, 29 March 2004 00:35
 
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You killed the 2JZGE W58 and the W57 already??
Time to massage that tranny tunnel... 6 spd style
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Re: RIP: W57
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Mon, 29 March 2004 00:36
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LOL! Sounds like you got bang for buck..... *boom tish*
IIRC, there is some special welding process (? electron beam) that attaches the gears to the countershaft. It can be done, but not cheaply.
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Re: RIP: W57
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Mon, 29 March 2004 01:51
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Bummer. So much for that idea. 
A 6-speed would be very nice, but box + flywheel + clutch + tailshaft = $5k at a guess. I can buy a lot of W57's for that money!
Another option I've been considering is an R154. What do these typically go for with 1JZ bellhousing? This is likely to be an expensive option as well; again I'll need a new flywheel, clutch and tailshaft.
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Re: RIP: W57
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Mon, 29 March 2004 01:54
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Norbie,
I have an old parts listing for Toyota gearboxes and 3rd gear lists the same number for both W57 and W58, (same ratio obviously) so I don't see any 'pressing' reason why you can't swap that into your W58. Having said that I don't know what you need to do to swap the gears but I will guess it involves presses and big hammers ! Looking forward to the pics, I'm about to try a W57 behind a 1G-GZE in my RA23, and I don't want to kill that too soon !
Cheers,
Mitch.
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Re: RIP: W57
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Mon, 29 March 2004 02:26
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I've seen R154 with 1jz bellhousings go for around $1500 - 1800. Expensive, and you can buy a lot of W57s for the money, but at least it "shouldn't" leave you stranded. The shift is crappier as well, but that's what you get with what is virtually a truck gearbox.
You need flywheel (isn't ed trying to sell one?), clutch, tailshaft and slave cylinder (pretty sure r154 is different to the w5* series) and perhaps a master cylinder as well.
However...if you have spend money anyway.....Mmmm 6-speed!! 
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Re: RIP: W57
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Mon, 29 March 2004 03:17
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Norbie do you mean the gears in the red circle? I'm pretty sure they are welded in place.
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Re: RIP: W57
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Mon, 29 March 2004 04:33
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I think GT, thats what he destroyed on the W57, and its the gear below the red circle that he needs to replace in his W58
At least thats what I understand he is saying.
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Re: RIP: W57
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Mon, 29 March 2004 05:09
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if it was the mainshaft gear that broke, i'd seriously be getting the laygear professionally inspected for cracks and damage (and not a gearbox shop  ) when the teeth break off they can seriously overload the other gear, easily to the point of producing crack starters.
if you like pulling boxes apart, go ahead... it might be fine! but then again, if the layshaft teeth have cracks at the base, it's a matter of time...
then agin, it sounds like 'a matter of time' anyways 
do toyota sell individual gearbox parts??
Cya, Stewart
oh and in K boxes, the entire laygear is machined out of a single chunk of metal... and they are usually the teeth that break
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Re: RIP: W57
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Mon, 29 March 2004 07:32
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damn mine aint gonna last long
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Re: RIP: W57
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Mon, 29 March 2004 07:45
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99% sure that that shaft in the red will be one unit, not pressed or welded.
take the box to dave at gabba gearboxes {thats near your work} he does a free strip and quote, tell him phil from zupps sent ya
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Re: RIP: W57
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Mon, 29 March 2004 08:25
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Don't know if you want to fit another W5* box or not but I was talking to Dave at Brisbane Motor Imports last week and I asked him if he had any R154's. He said he can't get any, but, he has 700 Toyota gearboxes coming from Japan. You could keep one in the boot for a spare.
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Re: RIP: W57
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Mon, 29 March 2004 08:35
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how much is he looking at for a w series?
i wouldnt mind a couple of spares...
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Re: RIP: W57
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Mon, 29 March 2004 08:50
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No idea how much they are(they probably payed scrap weight value for them though). They are in the phone book. Ask for Dave, he has very good prices, best in Brisbane atm I'd say.
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Re: RIP: W57
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Tue, 30 March 2004 07:45
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Just put a Lenco in it!!
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Adelaide, SA
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Re: RIP: W57
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Tue, 30 March 2004 08:27
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2 speed powerglide!  You won't break that in a hurry! 
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Re: RIP: W57
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Tue, 30 March 2004 09:25
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| lumpy wrote on Tue, 30 March 2004 18:27 |
2 speed powerglide! You won't break that in a hurry!
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great for all that highway cruising too
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Re: RIP: W57
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Wed, 31 March 2004 00:30
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That's why it's got two speeds! Fast and Slow!
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Re: RIP: W57
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Wed, 31 March 2004 01:53
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| JZK25 wrote on Mon, 29 March 2004 18:25 |
Don't know if you want to fit another W5* box or not but I was talking to Dave at Brisbane Motor Imports last week and I asked him if he had any R154's. He said he can't get any, but, he has 700 Toyota gearboxes coming from Japan. You could keep one in the boot for a spare.
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I just gave them a call and all they can get me is a 1G-EU box (probably W57) for $375. Thanks, but no thanks.
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Re: RIP: W57
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Wed, 31 March 2004 01:59
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what did it do? just wouldnt go into any gear or what?
have you ever seen a tailshaft snap (diff end) my mate did it in his vk when we where behind him, he planted it and the things slapping around all over the show sparks where flying guess you just had to be there 
i got quoted $500 for a w57 (it was out of a 1gte  )
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Re: RIP: W57
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Wed, 31 March 2004 03:58
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It goes into gear but it "slips" when you try to move the car. When I say it slips it actually goes BANG BANG BANG and feels like the car is about to self-destruct. Broken/stripped gears for sure.
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Re: RIP: W57
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Wed, 31 March 2004 06:36
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Get an Auto
Allan
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Re: RIP: W57
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Wed, 31 March 2004 06:52
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| Allan wrote on Wed, 31 March 2004 14:36 |
Get an Auto
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yeah convert from manual to auto you'll notice a substantial loss in power
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Re: RIP: W57
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Wed, 31 March 2004 12:11
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| coronamark2 wrote on Wed, 31 March 2004 16:52 |
| Allan wrote on Wed, 31 March 2004 14:36 |
Get an Auto
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yeah convert from manual to auto you'll notice a substantial loss in power
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Hell also be a lot quicker on a 1/4 mile.
if i smash too many boxes, i have a turbo 400 in my garage out of a jag i will slap in.
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Re: RIP: W57
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Wed, 31 March 2004 13:33
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| coronamark2 wrote on Wed, 31 March 2004 16:52 |
| Allan wrote on Wed, 31 March 2004 14:36 |
Get an Auto
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yeah convert from manual to auto you'll notice a substantial loss in power
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Just like fitting a holly to a 4M perhaps?
a shift kitted auto is not a bad thing and it also happens to have a taller overdrive, cheaper to replace (mostly free if you shop around)
I personaly would much rather replace an auto every 100,000km and lose a little power then a clutch, gearbox, diff monthly (pick any two)
Allan
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Re: RIP: W57
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Wed, 31 March 2004 23:45
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I would be stunned if an auto lasted 100,000 on my car. Also, an auto typically doesn't give any benefit over the 1/4 mile until you reach the 10 second bracket. Not that I give a shit about the 1/4 mile anyway...
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Re: RIP: W57
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Thu, 01 April 2004 00:56
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| Allan wrote on Wed, 31 March 2004 21:33 |
| coronamark2 wrote on Wed, 31 March 2004 16:52 |
| Allan wrote on Wed, 31 March 2004 14:36 |
Get an Auto
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yeah convert from manual to auto you'll notice a substantial loss in power
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Just like fitting a holly to a 4M perhaps?
a shift kitted auto is not a bad thing and it also happens to have a taller overdrive, cheaper to replace (mostly free if you shop around)
I personaly would much rather replace an auto every 100,000km and lose a little power then a clutch, gearbox, diff monthly (pick any two)
Allan
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id rather have a holley than the shit jap emission 1000 tubes carbie.
People prefer autos who dont know how to drive a manual, you can keep your auto box i personally would much rather change my onw gears
and if you have to replace your clutch gearbox and diff monthly you certinaly do not know how to drive. (unless your at the quater every day)
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Re: RIP: W57
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Thu, 01 April 2004 01:27
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Before this degenrates further....
Allan suggestion of an Auto was not a bad one since they would be cheapish, less breakable (esp if you one kitted out by MV autos in SA) would probably improve 1/4 times and reduce wheelspin. Since Norbie is looking for a cheapish solution to his problem of breaking W5* series gearboxes an Auto is one. And if they can hold on (well, sort of) behind MS-75's monster 4.5Lt crown, they should last behind a 2jz.
We all know how fun manual's are so there's no need to get on the high horse about who can change gears and who can't.
Norbie, couldn't you offset the cost of an R154 by selling the W58 bellhousing and clutch setup? I see it as being the best solution to the current problem since you don't have the $$ for a 6-speed.
And is it only since you put the True-Trac diff in that you've started breaking gearboxes?
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Re: RIP: W57
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Thu, 01 April 2004 01:32
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yeah sorry alan lets not get this locked
whatever floats your boat
i agree 6spd would be good
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Re: RIP: W57
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Thu, 01 April 2004 02:47
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The V160 is delish, although good luck finding 1 under $3000 that's in good condition (they retail for nearly $12,000 new from toyota).
Jeremy, you'd be better off finding an R154, probably less work involved in fitting it (you won't need to modify the shifter bracket and linkage rod) nor will you need a fancy tailshaft (V160 doesn't run a slip yoke system). Certainly would be cheaper and far more reliable than a W5x gearbox over time - how long did the W57 last you?
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Re: RIP: W57
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Thu, 01 April 2004 04:15
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W57 lasted about 2-3 months, and yes I did start breaking gearboxes after the installation of the TrueTrac and new suspension (ie heaps more traction). I'm replacing my 225 tyres with 255/265's so I'll have even more traction soon!
Long-term solution is either R154 or V161, but both ways will require new flywheel and clutch and tailshaft mods, although I guess the R154 will be easier, ie shorten front section and weld on new yoke. The thing that scares me about the R154 is Nick's experience of breaking two of them with a stock 7M.  Plus it's basically a truck gearbox.
I really really want a V161, so maybe I should just bite the bullet, get a $5k loan, and do it. I'm used to being in debt now!
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Re: RIP: W57
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Thu, 01 April 2004 04:37
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will either fit in the trans tunnel?
the only R154 in a similar car ive heard of is a fellow named skidman, with a 1JZ/R154 RA60.
we all asked numerous times for pics of how his workshop fit it in there (apparently minor mods), but he never got them for us.
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Re: RIP: W57
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Thu, 01 April 2004 05:06
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The R154 apprently does have a weakness to do with the thrust washer? It was detailed in Zoom or HPi a year or two ago as Donnon's Soarer g/box bit the dust. It can be strengthed in this area though, so would be a good idea to do that first if worried.
But nothing will change the fact that they're a truck gearbox with a long, slow shift that you can't shift too quickly in.
Isn't it funny how intially far away car modifying dreams begin to get rationalised into..well it's only going to cost me slightly more, and I'll get something lots better so really it's worth it - in fact, I'd be wasting money if I didn't do it!
Be different and exciting and go the V161!
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Re: RIP: W57
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Thu, 01 April 2004 05:49
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Just put in a V160/1. Or an auto.
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Re: RIP: W57
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Thu, 01 April 2004 06:18
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Yes, it's all very simple when it's someone else's money, isn't it GT?
The R154 fits in the trans tunnel, it's been done by a Yank on the CelicaSupra forums faily recently. Apparently the transmission touches the tunnel towards the back but you can still wedge it in, or even better bash the tunnel a bit so it doesn't touch. I imagine it's a similar story with the V161 having seen the photos on Stenno's site of the two boxes side by side.
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Re: RIP: W57
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Thu, 01 April 2004 06:23
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I'm a champion at spending other people's money!
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Re: RIP: W57
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Thu, 01 April 2004 07:49
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damn...if i cant use my 11" clutch kit with an r154 i wont be happy 
Ah well i see 3 gearboxes as the deadline....then i throw the turbo 400 in. Seeing as its used in dragsters and has less than 100km on it, it should do well.
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Re: RIP: W57
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Thu, 01 April 2004 08:24
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Just remeber a V161 has an even shorter 1st gear than the V160 and overall it has shorter ratios I believe.
This has quite an effect on the sequential operation when running a shorter diff ratio compared to the 3.266's this box has behind it from the factory.
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Re: RIP: W57
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Thu, 01 April 2004 09:50
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But nothing will change the fact that they're a truck gearbox with a long, slow shift that you can't shift too quickly in.
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Haha try a R151f with a 2 foot long shifter on it then
Im going to perform a DIY short shift on mine though.
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Re: RIP: W57
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Thu, 01 April 2004 14:44
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| coronamark2 wrote on Thu, 01 April 2004 10:56 |
id rather have a holley than the shit jap emission 1000 tubes carbie.
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I'd Prefer the 4m-e/5m-e fuel injection
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People prefer autos who dont know how to drive a manual, you can keep your auto box i personally would much rather change my onw gears
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Thats almost the bigest load of crap I have ever heard!
I would much rather find the fastest smoothest way thru a corner then be stuffing around changing down gears trying to match the exit speed of the corner, I dont know maybe its the fact your yet to experence something with decent grunt, I know all too well about 4/5m's - you have time to open your can of coke and drink it between changes unless there SERIOUSLY modded, even then with such a flat torque/power curve its far from fussy about what RPM you pull out of a corner with.
Now you look at norbies case, a High powered turbo car thats driven dayly, im shure he could find something else beside a gearbox to spend $5000 on For 5000 you could get a auto for nothing rebuild it for about $1500ish (if it needed it *unlikely*) shift kit is about $300-400? that would leave about $3000 that he could get a motec for and then he can even set the points he wants the auto to shift at
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and if you have to replace your clutch gearbox and diff monthly you certinaly do not know how to drive. (unless your at the quater every day)
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Hello 4m Vs high powered car again! a high powered car puts much more stress on a driveline for example GT's 2jz eats a 5M/7M-GE clutch like a cookie from subway, easly fixed with bigger/heavyer clutch/pressure plate if this was a dayly driver tho dave would end up walking funny with a strong left leg from the heavy clutch pedal
Now norbie can do the big clutch/R154 thing (or V160 if his bank manager likes the look of his ass) but again what will go next Thrust washer, Clutch.. will he need some fancy twin plate $$$$$$? does he want to have cramps in his leg from a clutch pedal so heavy it belongs in a truck? then are the sharp unloading/loading forces of a manual going to turn his F series diff into 7.5inchs of metal clunks? or half shaft into two halfs of a half shaft?
You should REALLY look at both sides of the coin before you comment Manual is the be all and end all of transmissions, if it was Formula 1, porsche, BMW, Toyota etc etc etc are all wrong and you should write them a letter telling them that.
Allan
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Re: RIP: W57
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Thu, 01 April 2004 21:09
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| Skip wrote on Thu, 01 April 2004 19:50 |
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But nothing will change the fact that they're a truck gearbox with a long, slow shift that you can't shift too quickly in.
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Haha try a R151f with a 2 foot long shifter on it then
Im going to perform a DIY short shift on mine though.
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R151 is effectively the same gearbox, with a few different ratios (3rd is the same I believe, Wastegate can clear this up as he's used gear(s) out of this box).
*chuckle*
Where is 7mbrisbane where you need him.
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Re: RIP: W57
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Thu, 01 April 2004 23:49
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Smaller length input shaft and different output shaft. 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 5th are all different ratios. First is 4.31:1 meaning cruisers front wheels get very light on hard take off
How come all these R151 experts are hanging around now? When I was trying to get info on them before I bought my car no one could tell me what the hell an R150 or R151 even was.
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Re: RIP: W57
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Fri, 02 April 2004 01:09
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| Allan wrote on Thu, 01 April 2004 22:44 |
I'd Prefer the 4m-e/5m-e fuel injection
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Last time i checked my car was carbie
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Thats almost the bigest load of crap I have ever heard!
I would much rather find the fastest smoothest way thru a corner then be stuffing around changing down gears trying to match the exit speed of the corner, I dont know maybe its the fact your yet to experence something with decent grunt, I know all too well about 4/5m's - you have time to open your can of coke and drink it between changes unless there SERIOUSLY modded, even then with such a flat torque/power curve its far from fussy about what RPM you pull out of a corner with.
Now you look at norbies case, a High powered turbo car thats driven dayly, im shure he could find something else beside a gearbox to spend $5000 on For 5000 you could get a auto for nothing rebuild it for about $1500ish (if it needed it *unlikely*) shift kit is about $300-400? that would leave about $3000 that he could get a motec for and then he can even set the points he wants the auto to shift at
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So when your flying into a corner in your "auto" does it know when you want to change down to get the best speed out of the corner, even if you do shift down (which cant hurt the indestructable auto) you have to wait or open a can of coke before it shifts down.
i've checked out norbies car its a beast and i'll bet you my left nad he would prefer a manual to an auto
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Hello 4m Vs high powered car again! a high powered car puts much more stress on a driveline for example GT's 2jz eats a 5M/7M-GE clutch like a cookie from subway, easly fixed with bigger/heavyer clutch/pressure plate if this was a dayly driver tho dave would end up walking funny with a strong left leg from the heavy clutch pedal
Now norbie can do the big clutch/R154 thing (or V160 if his bank manager likes the look of his ass) but again what will go next Thrust washer, Clutch.. will he need some fancy twin plate $$$$$$? does he want to have cramps in his leg from a clutch pedal so heavy it belongs in a truck? then are the sharp unloading/loading forces of a manual going to turn his F series diff into 7.5inchs of metal clunks? or half shaft into two halfs of a half shaft?
You should REALLY look at both sides of the coin before you comment Manual is the be all and end all of transmissions, if it was Formula 1, porsche, BMW, Toyota etc etc etc are all wrong and you should write them a letter telling them that.
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We'll have to agree to disagree, i know id spend the extra to get the 6 spd with truck driver clutch but thats me. i have looked at both sides of the coin and last time i looked porsche,bmw and toyota have manual gearboxes there are to many forms of motorsports to list that use manual gear boxes (ie V8 Supercars) how boring would it be if they had autos once again thats just my opinion
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Re: RIP: W57
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Fri, 02 April 2004 02:17
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*If* you were serious bout going auto for dragging, etc. - Castelemain Rodshop make a JZ-Ford C4 adaptor. But, yeh, since it's Norbie's money we are spending .... go the Getrag!
Justin
JZA61 - nursing a 2JZGE W57
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Re: RIP: W57
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Fri, 02 April 2004 02:20
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Allan, have you *ever* driven a A70 with the R154 with a heavy duty clutch or a JZA80 with 6 speed with a heavy duty/high clamp clutch?
Because going from your post you clearly havn't (they both run a hydraulic clutch arragement, and the pedal is *very* light).
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Re: RIP: W57
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Fri, 02 April 2004 03:58
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I'm running a high-clamp clutch in my Supra and my mum could drive it comfortably. I've also driven Wastegate's and 7MBrisbane's MA71 Supras, both with R154's and big clutches, and didn't have any problems with them either. Certainly nothing resembling a "truck clutch".
The idea of using an auto in any form of motorsport apart from drag racing is ludicrous, and I'm not aware of any formula where this is common. And no, computer-controlled sequential manual gearboxes don't count as an "auto" in the context of this thread.
In any case, auto's bore the shit out of me which is why I chose the manual route instead of using the auto box which came with the front cut (and which, by the way, is still in my possession). Each to their own, but I prefer three pedals thanks.
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Re: RIP: W57
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Fri, 02 April 2004 04:02
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| Norbie wrote on Fri, 02 April 2004 11:58 |
I'm running a high-clamp clutch in my Supra and my mum could drive it comfortably. I've also driven Wastegate's and 7MBrisbane's MA71 Supras, both with R154's and big clutches, and didn't have any problems with them either. Certainly nothing resembling a "truck clutch".
The idea of using an auto in any form of motorsport apart from drag racing is ludicrous, and I'm not aware of any formula where this is common. And no, computer-controlled sequential manual gearboxes don't count as an "auto" in the context of this thread.
In any case, auto's bore the shit out of me which is why I chose the manual route instead of using the auto box which came with the front cut (and which, by the way, is still in my possession). Each to their own, but I prefer three pedals thanks.
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So allan when you doing the manual conversion?
jk
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Re: RIP: W57
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Fri, 02 April 2004 05:03
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R154 with a short shift kit would be the way to go. I got mine (with the shifter and an os giken twin plate clutch - score!) for $1300... However, I am really good mates with the guy that put me onto that mob, who in turn is really good mates with them. So for a setup like that, I got told by the wreckers, they would have let it go for no less than $1800
Granted they are hard shifting box's, but on the offchance that you do manage to break one... you can't have been treating it that well.
I have one in my car with a short shifter kit (os giken kit i think - since when i got it off the previous motor, everything was of os giken motherhood) and shiftign up and down through the gears is fast enough.
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Re: RIP: W57
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Sat, 03 April 2004 01:24
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A JZA70 manual cut I had came with a blitz twinplate clutch with the R154 converted to push type operation. This had a very light activation. The pedal had the spring assist though, dont know if this makes much difference.
I have found A340's to be a pita behind 1JZ's, locked clutch's and other nasty's.
I reckon you really want to do whatever you can to get a R154 in there. I've seen whole conversion kits go on these forums for $1400 (flywheel, clutch etc...).
Make sure you get a slip yoke or complete shaft as the slip is nearly to source now even for tailshaft shops.
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Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: RIP: W57 *** now with pics ***
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Tue, 06 April 2004 14:26
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I finally got around to pulling the box apart tonight. Sure enough, the layshaft gears have been stripped to hell. I broke it good!
More pics HERE.
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Brisbane / Gold Coast
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May 2002
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Re: RIP: W57 *** now with pics ***
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Tue, 06 April 2004 16:48
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HA HA!![/Nelson voice]
But seriously ... ouch.
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I supported Toymods
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May 2002
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Re: RIP: W57 *** now with pics ***
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Tue, 06 April 2004 20:27
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Love your work!
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Adelaide
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September 2003
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Re: RIP: W57 *** now with pics ***
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Tue, 06 April 2004 22:01
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Did the magnetic sump plug do it's work
Nice tooth profile. I did something like that a while ago in a C/R mazda box.
Did sound/feel nice when it happened
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Brisbane, QLD
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February 2003
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Re: RIP: W57 *** now with pics ***
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Tue, 06 April 2004 23:03
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well i know who to see if i ever want to give a W5x box a real good thrashing....thats some nice work Norbie!
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Perth, Western Australia
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December 2002
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Re: RIP: W57 *** now with pics ***
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Wed, 07 April 2004 02:34
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So what were you actually doing just before it let go Norbie???
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South Australia
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July 2002
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Re: RIP: W57 *** now with pics ***
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Wed, 07 April 2004 02:48
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Yep, that is fucking nasty. One of the better jobs of stripping a gear that I've seen.
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Brisbane
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February 2003
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Re: RIP: W57 *** now with pics ***
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Wed, 07 April 2004 02:59
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ooh ... i like this meal ... layshaft soup... mixed with creme of input-shaft
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Sydney
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March 2003
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Re: RIP: W57 *** now with pics ***
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Wed, 07 April 2004 05:29
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V160 is your friend
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