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sprinter_steve
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Help the noob(4AGZE or 4AGE+turbo?) Thu, 15 April 2004 01:20 Go to next message
Okay, let's say I have a stock sprinter. Would it be better or cheaper to either do an engine swap to a 4AGZE or to a 4AGE + adding a turbo to the 4AGE?

[Updated on: Thu, 15 April 2004 01:24]

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Re: Help the noob(4AGZE or 4AGE+turbo?) Thu, 15 April 2004 01:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
4agze, also it has a stronger block, and if u want to turbo later on, it will be much better since it already has forged internals.
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Re: Help the noob(4AGZE or 4AGE+turbo?) Thu, 15 April 2004 03:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
GZE is cheaper by a long shot.

GZE would also be cheaper to turbo than a stock 4age.

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Re: Help the noob(4AGZE or 4AGE+turbo?) Thu, 15 April 2004 05:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i have done both and both make close to the same power for the same money,

either way you have to make a manafold, supply a turbo, oil lines, inejctors, ecu etc,

sure the GZE has more scope for more power but in a sreet car on under 15psi boost they will both be fine,

we turboed a 86kw import motor, with a td04l off a 98wrx, made 186rwhp on 11psi boost,

the GZE will cost a shit load more than a 86kw motor ever will, and you will need to spend more money to make the GZE turbo compatable (inlet manafold etc)

Dale

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Re: Help the noob(4AGZE or 4AGE+turbo?) Thu, 15 April 2004 06:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
This is gonna make me sound really stupid but which option is cheaper?

And which one is easier to do?

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Re: Help the noob(4AGZE or 4AGE+turbo?) Thu, 15 April 2004 06:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
sprinter_steve, im currently in the middle of a conversion (from 4ac to turbocharging an ae101 gze motor) & im looking at around 4k through a workshop...if you are mechanically minded you could do it yourself and save more $$$

imo getting a gze is the way to go...as sprintr mentioned the gze has forged internals. the extra cost of the gze doesnt outweigh the benefits

http://forums.toymods.org.au/index.php?t=msg&t h=28682&start=0&rid=92&S=a6ede4e494b62 7b268fba5e92d060950

that should give you most of the info you'll need...its best if you read and decide for yourself based upon what you want
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Re: Help the noob(4AGZE or 4AGE+turbo?) Thu, 15 April 2004 09:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
When you go through a workshop, will most know how to the job with no problems?

Do you need an engineer ot something to provide a certificate afterwards?

As you can see, I'm very new to this knida thing. Thanks for everyone's patients. Smile
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Re: Help the noob(4AGZE or 4AGE+turbo?) Thu, 15 April 2004 13:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
that would be patience. Good luck
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Re: Help the noob(4AGZE or 4AGE+turbo?) Thu, 15 April 2004 13:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
sprinter_steve wrote on Thu, 15 April 2004 19:16

When you go through a workshop, will most know how to the job with no problems?

Do you need an engineer ot something to provide a certificate afterwards?

As you can see, I'm very new to this knida thing. Thanks for everyone's patients. Smile


Embarassed

I have another question. Let's say i got a $3K Sprinter so it wouldn't be in the best condition. Should I get a new paintjob on it, do the engine swap, replace tires, brakes, clutch etc or do the interior stuff(replacing seats, carpet etc). Which one should I do first?

[Updated on: Thu, 15 April 2004 13:57]

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Re: Help the noob(4AGZE or 4AGE+turbo?) Thu, 15 April 2004 20:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
3k should buy you a pretty nice aus spec sprinter.
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Re: Help the noob(4AGZE or 4AGE+turbo?) Thu, 15 April 2004 21:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
the 4age 86kw turbo will cost less, the engine costs less, you dont have to change all the manafolds over, dont have to mees with power steering pumps and altinator brackets etc,

Dale
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Re: Help the noob(4AGZE or 4AGE+turbo?) Fri, 16 April 2004 03:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ae95 wrote on Fri, 16 April 2004 06:28

3k should buy you a pretty nice aus spec sprinter.


Really? I haven't had much luck. Sad
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Re: Help the noob(4AGZE or 4AGE+turbo?) Fri, 16 April 2004 04:53 Go to previous message
I say go 4agte but the other day i heard an mr2 with a done up 4agze in it and it sounds mad Very Happy
Makes me wish i put the 4agze in mine for a while.
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