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W57/58 rip off?
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Mon, 19 April 2004 11:32
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Hey y'all.
I'm after peoples opinions as to whether I'm being ripped off. I had 7MGE engine put in my ma70 Supra by a mechanic recently. My manual gearbox's lay shaft bearings were gone, so I asked him to take the box out as well. He sent it off to his usual gearbox people.
I get a call saying they wont guarantee the box unless they recondition it for $950, or they can get me a 2nd hand box for $750. I opted for the 2nd hand box, but when I got on the highway I found that my rpm had jumped up by 300 at 110kph. Ofcourse I immediately logged on to toymods and checked out the gearbox guide and saw the different 5th gear ratios for the W57 and W58 boxes. The mechanic said he'd noticed 'celica' in raised lettering on the box, and put me onto the gearbox guys.
They are saying that, yeah it is a W57, but both boxes are exactly the same. They claim they've opened up my box and compared it to a 57 and they're identical aside from the steel sandwich plate in my old 58. They say the speedo is out due to the different cable gearing.
I checked the speedo, and it was under-reading by 6kph at 110, but seemed fine at lower speeds. Ofcourse the speedo could have been out before, as I have 17" mags. What this all boils down to for me is-
1.Is it reasonable to supply W57 in place of a W58, when its clearly stated its for a MA70 Supra? 2.$750 seems reasonable for a 2nd hand W58 with warranty, but wouldn't a W57 would be a lot less? 3.Are they full of shit about the speedo cable & both boxes being the same? Thanks for reading all of this!
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Brisbane
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June 2003
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Re: W57/58 rip off?
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Mon, 19 April 2004 11:35
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norbie just got a w57 for $375. Id ring them and ask for a refund. Seriously, $750 is ridiculous. w58 are a better box, with a steel sandwich plate.
Get it sorted out sooner than later tho mate!
Blake.
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Cabramatta, NSW
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May 2002
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Re: W57/58 rip off?
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Mon, 19 April 2004 11:46
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Yup. You got rorted.
Go back and kick their arses for trying to rip you off!!!
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MACKAY
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May 2002
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Re: W57/58 rip off?
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Mon, 19 April 2004 11:46
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$350 - $400 is the price for the W57 boxes .
Trevor
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NSW, East Coast
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July 2003
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Re: W57/58 rip off?
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Mon, 19 April 2004 11:48
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Dont except this bullshit, you know that the gearbox is different and so does your "so called mechanic".
He noticed the celica writting on the gearbox no-ing full well that your car is a supra and then he sends you to HIS USUAL GEARBOX PEOPLE.
Stand up and correct this shit, and get a new mechanic, the one you have is not looking out for your best interests, he is a joke, and so are the gearbox people.
Just my thoughts.
Steve
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Cabramatta, NSW
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May 2002
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Re: W57/58 rip off?
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Mon, 19 April 2004 11:51
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Another thing to keep in mind.
Last time I got quoted for reconditioning a W58, it was $500.
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Location:
Montrose, VIC
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May 2002
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Re: W57/58 rip off?
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Mon, 19 April 2004 13:04
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Another thing: not all 58s have a steel plate 
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Location:
Albany WA
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October 2003
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Re: W57/58 rip off?
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Mon, 19 April 2004 14:50
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Give us the size and profile of your tires, and I'll work out what you should be pulling at what speeds (got all the ratios for the W series boxes round here somewhere). I'm kind of looking for a W58 just for the taller 5th gear....
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Location:
Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: W57/58 rip off?
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Mon, 19 April 2004 23:11
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I've paid as little as $175 for a W57 gearbox at the wreckers. $750 is what I'd expect to pay for a late-model W58 out of a Mk4 Supra!
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Location:
Brisbane
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June 2003
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Re: W57/58 rip off?
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Tue, 20 April 2004 07:24
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i just picked up a ga70 w58 for $300....
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Location:
Albany WA
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October 2003
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Re: W57/58 rip off?
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Tue, 20 April 2004 11:26
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Hey, someone want to find me a W58 in that sort of price bracket?
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Location:
Perth
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October 2003
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Location:
Adelaide
Registered:
September 2003
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Re: W57/58 rip off?
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Tue, 20 April 2004 22:10
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| V8_MA61 wrote on Tue, 20 April 2004 17:24 |
i just picked up a ga70 w58 for $300....
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Did yours have an alloy sandwich plate or steel ? My ex MA70 (from lumpy) was a W58, but had an alloy sandwich plate 
Cheers
Michael B
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Brisbane
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June 2003
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Re: W57/58 rip off?
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Wed, 21 April 2004 07:17
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mine was steel...i made sure of it! i have a w58 alloy sandwich plate out of my ma61...so its easy to tell the difference!
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