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Painting - Bare metal or not?
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Mon, 19 April 2004 01:53
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Hi guys,
I am in the process of building another TA22, and I just wanted some opinions on whether you recommend going back to bare metal when doing a re-spray.
With the usual amount of rust and being pretty straight, would you think it's nessecary to take it back?
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South Australia
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July 2002
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Re: Painting - Bare metal or not?
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Mon, 19 April 2004 02:07
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Depends on your budget and what you want from the car. If you want to 'restore' it and keep it for a long time, then you'd want to sand blast, then 'grit' then coat with some kind of phosphate thingo (so as to prevent any rust as bare metal oxidises VERY quickly).
If you just want the car to look a bit neater for a year or two then just sand a bit then respray.
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I supported Toymods
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melbourne.victoria.austra...
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June 2002
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Re: Painting - Bare metal or not?
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Mon, 19 April 2004 03:35
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yeah i haven't done mine bare metal, but, i'm not entering shows for best paint ect ect - just solongas it looks neat and tidy, thats all i'm after 
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camden
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September 2003
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Re: Painting - Bare metal or not?
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Mon, 19 April 2004 06:10
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my passenger door and guards are bare maetal but the rest of the car isnt and you cant tell the difference if your good at sanding...
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Re: Painting - Bare metal or not?
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Mon, 19 April 2004 06:33
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well said actually sly...
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NSW, East Coast
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July 2003
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Re: Painting - Bare metal or not?
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Mon, 19 April 2004 12:05
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| -NiCkeL- wrote on Mon, 19 April 2004 11:53 |
Hi guys,
I am in the process of building another TA22, and I just wanted some opinions on whether you recommend going back to bare metal when doing a re-spray.
With the usual amount of rust and being pretty straight, would you think it's nessecary to take it back?
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In my ae86 im going treat the rust as mush as possible, back to bare only in those eares so i can treat the rust properly then a good wet and dry sand all over then spray.
But i agree with FWDboy, depends on what you want, $$$$, and time.
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Location:
Melbourne, Victoria
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February 2004
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Re: Painting - Bare metal or not?
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Mon, 19 April 2004 22:10
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Saying that, a bare metal respray will give a longer lasting and better overall paint job?
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Re: Painting - Bare metal or not?
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Tue, 20 April 2004 00:11
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I went bare metal with my XX, but mainly because I didn't trust the people with the car before me, nor was their paint job good enough to risk my paint being stuck to. Rightly so, I found a fair amount of bog hiding rust that wasn't repaired properly that would've just come back.
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South Australia
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Re: Painting - Bare metal or not?
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Tue, 20 April 2004 02:52
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That's a good point actually. The amount of bog and crap that you tend to find when you go back to bare metal is usually pretty surprising, and it's a good idea to find out whether anyone has done something stupid with you car, like bog up chassis rail damage
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Location:
Melbourne, Victoria
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February 2004
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Re: Painting - Bare metal or not?
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Tue, 20 April 2004 04:41
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Thanks guys for your input!
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Sydney
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April 2004
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Re: Painting - Bare metal or not?
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Tue, 20 April 2004 08:14
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If you don't go back to bare metal you tend to see every little imperfection. if you have the proper tools it'll only take you a half a day to sand it all back
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Re: Painting - Bare metal or not?
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Tue, 20 April 2004 08:17
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| scaface wrote on Tue, 20 April 2004 16:14 |
if you have the proper tools it'll only take you a half a day to sand it all back
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Are you sure mate? I DID have the proper tools, and it took multiple people more than half a day to get it done!
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Re: Painting - Bare metal or not?
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Tue, 20 April 2004 08:55
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| scaface wrote on Tue, 20 April 2004 17:44 |
if you have the proper tools it'll only take you a half a day to sand it all back
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What do you call "proper tools" ?
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camden
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Re: Painting - Bare metal or not?
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Tue, 20 April 2004 11:44
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your hand,sandpaper and a sanding block 
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Location:
Melbourne, Victoria
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February 2004
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Re: Painting - Bare metal or not?
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Wed, 21 April 2004 00:21
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What about using paint stripper?
If I do decide to go back to bare metal, what do you do from there? I know exposed bare metal will rust very quickly, what processes do you go through before you apply undercoat?
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Re: Painting - Bare metal or not?
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Wed, 21 April 2004 00:25
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I used 3M paint stripper discs on a drill to begin with. It works pretty well, but you go through them especially when there was a couple of layers of paint like there was on my car.
I went to paint stripper, and found that providing you didn't scratch it off, it left nearly all the factory rust proofing on. Having said that, ASAP I'd give it a coat of at least primer, although I used POR15 over the whole car so effectively it shouldn't rust for the rest of its life!
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February 2004
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Re: Painting - Bare metal or not?
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Wed, 21 April 2004 00:49
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What is this POR15 you speak about?
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Location:
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Re: Painting - Bare metal or not?
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Wed, 21 April 2004 01:13
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Thanks dude!
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