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Gregas Celica...(new pix 25/05/04) Mon, 05 April 2004 23:09 Go to next message
Well given i'm on holidays time for some panel work

http://www.vncommodore.com/images/celica/body/DSC00077.JPG

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Re: Gregas Celica... Tue, 06 April 2004 18:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
oops, was going to write pics dont work but all of a sudden they do Razz Good luck with the project anyway!

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Re: Gregas Celica... Wed, 07 April 2004 02:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
phew, hard yakka :

http://www.vncommodore.com/images/celica/body/DSC00087.JPG

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http://www.vncommodore.com/images/celica/body/DSC00089.JPG

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Re: Gregas Celica... Wed, 07 April 2004 02:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Looking good! Shocked
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Re: Gregas Celica... Fri, 09 April 2004 15:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
nice job
keep us posted on any more work to come
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Re: Gregas Celica... Sat, 10 April 2004 01:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
thats some pretty good progress for like 3 days!

what colour is it going if you care to share?
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Re: Gregas Celica... Sun, 11 April 2004 08:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hi guys, been a bit slack Smile
(my arse)

well we're at level 2 stage of primer

http://www.vncommodore.com/images/celica/body/DSC00100.JPG

http://www.vncommodore.com/images/celica/body/DSC00106.JPG

tommorrow will see a wet rub back with prolly 1000 grit (its soooooo bloody smooth is the primer off the gun its amazing!)

the color will be....amazon mica (the color of my vt commodore)

i tell you what i know why beaters charge so much for spray jobs. in my mind now after what i've done they don't charge enough - especially when body work is involved - its a bloody fine art let me tell ya!

if anyones interested there are 2 coats of hi fill and two coats of primer on her now. prolly put 4 coats of color on tommorrow and the same in clear when done (just to ensure that i have uniform coverage everywhere)

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Re: Gregas Celica... Sun, 11 April 2004 08:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ok...... amazon mica doesn't mean much to me, is that the green on them commys? nice contrast for the gt lenses.

compared to every other home respray i see this is unbelievable progress tho!
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Re: Gregas Celica... Sun, 11 April 2004 12:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
looking good so far.. i wanna see colour
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Re: Gregas Celica... Sun, 11 April 2004 21:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
peewee : i've been at it since last tuesday. full time. i'm on holidays so that helps heaps (also the missus car has to live outside while i'm doing this, so, there is an added incentive.

as far as the color goes : this is what my VT looks like :

http://www.vncommodore.com/images/vtberlina.jpg

that might give you some idea...its one of those funny colors that changes as the sun reflects in it. also has a pearl added to it for extra wierdness, overall a nice color. its not a common VT color - most VT's are bermuda blue which is a lightish blue color (almost getting towards WRX Blue Mica)

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Re: Gregas Celica... Sun, 11 April 2004 21:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i've also been extremely lucky with the weather being spot on for this kind of work too.
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Re: Gregas Celica... Sun, 11 April 2004 23:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
so your going to re do the engine bay again! new colour looks nice though.
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Re: Gregas Celica... Sun, 11 April 2004 23:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
yes ; the engine conversion caused alot of chips in the paint work and, the engine bay was my first attempt at painting, now i know what i do, i'll do it again and get a far better finish.
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Re: Gregas Celica... Tue, 13 April 2004 05:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
well here is the result of one week of prep work :

http://www.vncommodore.com/images/celica/body/DSC00125.JPG

http://www.vncommodore.com/images/celica/body/DSC00128.JPG

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not too bad...
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Re: Gregas Celica... Tue, 13 April 2004 05:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Berry Nice Smile
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Re: Gregas Celica... Tue, 13 April 2004 05:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
awesome
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Re: Gregas Celica... Tue, 13 April 2004 07:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
thats looking good. how many hours did you spend in total on body prep?
i'll be needing to respray my ta22 when i get the time. at the moment im just looking for heaps of tips.
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Re: Gregas Celica... Tue, 13 April 2004 09:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
basically a week off an on - so - 40-50hrs i'd reckon on prepwork which including sanding and spraying and sanding and bogging and whatever else have you.

mandatory to have a shed to do this in. and have a good think about what you have to do - its a shload of work (if you want a good result)
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Re: Gregas Celica... Wed, 14 April 2004 00:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i was thinking more than 50hrs. ive been getting a lot of advice from my dads mate who has restored alfa romeo sprints and is currently doing a maserati merak.
once the paint is on and fully cured, he uses BRASSO (yes the metal cleaner stuff) and spends about a week rubbing down one section after another followed by a polish to get the paint in concourse condition.
i'll try this on a section of my car and let you know how it goes if youd like to get your paint looking top dollar.
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Re: Gregas Celica... Wed, 14 April 2004 04:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
could be tommo but, i've been at it off and on so its only a guestimate and remember thats only the body section. i still have the boot, bonnet, 2 doors, beaver panel and 1 guard to do!

brasso - havent heard of that before....remembering my paint is acrylic and not 2 pack...
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Re: Gregas Celica... Wed, 14 April 2004 05:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yeah he uses to brasso to shine the acrylic paint.
what were your reasons for wanting to spray doors, boot, bonnet seperate?
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Re: Gregas Celica... Wed, 14 April 2004 05:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ah OK.

color change namely...and engine conversion in there somewhere too...
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Re: Gregas Celica... Fri, 16 April 2004 11:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
just a question...you got a paint code for that?????what that paint work a litre...
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Re: Gregas Celica... Tue, 20 April 2004 07:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
picture says a thousand words supposedly...

http://www.vncommodore.com/images/celica/body/DSC00143.JPG

http://www.vncommodore.com/images/celica/body/DSC00144.JPG

http://www.vncommodore.com/images/celica/body/DSC00145.JPG

http://www.vncommodore.com/images/celica/body/DSC00146.JPG

and yes the engine bay is the gold color. that will get done when the engine comes out (again) which prolly won't be too long now

and yes the yellow bits and pieces in the car will be covered up so you won't see them basically.

not bad for a 2nd attempt at spraying...

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Re: Gregas Celica... Tue, 20 April 2004 07:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
sorry people100 its amazon mica. i'll get the code for ya

word of warning : spray a basecoat color first. 2 hi fill, 2 primer, 10 color and 5 clear on that.
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Re: Gregas Celica... Sat, 24 April 2004 11:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Smiley $$ Smiley $$ Smiley $$ dont think that smelly tree hangin` on the mirror is doing much greg Razz

so in those pics, you still got the clear to go yeh? cos doesnt look as shinny as the VT yet, but either way, still looks damn fineeeeeeeeeee

top work Nod
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Re: Gregas Celica... Sat, 24 April 2004 11:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
MMMMM blue ta22 ..

looking forward to its first play day in the otways with my Gt4 Greg!

keep up the mint work buddy
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Re: Gregas Celica... Sat, 24 April 2004 21:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
twincam_ke20, nah the tree has been there since i got the car (like 2 years ago) so hasn't done two tenths of fuck all for a long time Smile

and yeah the clear is on the photos don't do it justice. its still yet to be compounded too. remember that the VT is 2 pac - this is only acrylic

stu, yeah no worries, go for a run around the otways you reckon - gotta reckon thats be on the cards, just, kinda gotta wait for mr bb turbo to get on there first and get some tuning happening and intercooling plumbing plus rest of paint the list goes on and on....

speaking of which whats with this shitty melbourne weather...not good days for painting/body work let me tell ya!
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Re: Gregas Celica... Sun, 25 April 2004 02:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Grega wrote on Sun, 25 April 2004 07:22

twincam_ke20, nah the tree has been there since i got the car (like 2 years ago) so hasn't done two tenths of fuck all for a long time Smile

and yeah the clear is on the photos don't do it justice. its still yet to be compounded too. remember that the VT is 2 pac - this is only acrylic

stu, yeah no worries, go for a run around the otways you reckon - gotta reckon thats be on the cards, just, kinda gotta wait for mr bb turbo to get on there first and get some tuning happening and intercooling plumbing plus rest of paint the list goes on and on....

speaking of which whats with this shitty melbourne weather...not good days for painting/body work let me tell ya!

i hated melbourne when i was there for a few months
it was NEVER normal the whole time i was there.. it was either boiling hot... freezing cold.. or freezing cold, raining and blowing wind like no tomorrow
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Re: Gregas Celica... Sun, 25 April 2004 04:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Two questions - what spray gun did you use, and what brand primer?

Btw - looking v. nice, gives me hope that one day I might get around to spraying my car. Did you use anything like a spray booth or just ye olde shed and a mask?
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Re: Gregas Celica... Sun, 25 April 2004 06:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jag7799 - thats melbourne mate, beautiful one day fuckin shithouse the next. except at the moment its just plain shithouse, but, we need the rain!

FWDBOY, spray gun, which one? i have 3 (but namely used two on this excursion) - 1 is a 1.4mm gravity gun - used for primer and color and clear, the other is a 2.5mm gravity gun used for hi-fill only.

more pix if you're interested now with the goodness of chrome and lack of gold colored boot...

http://www.vncommodore.com/images/celica/body/DSC00154.JPG

http://www.vncommodore.com/images/celica/body/DSC00155.JPG

http://www.vncommodore.com/images/celica/body/DSC00156.JPG

http://www.vncommodore.com/images/celica/body/DSC00157.JPG

http://www.vncommodore.com/images/celica/body/DSC00158.JPG

bout time i got some windoze (and not the bill gates type either) in the thing Smile - am getting brand new front screen and rubbers and brand new rear screen (with integrated demistery goodness)

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Re: Gregas Celica... Tue, 27 April 2004 11:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
very impressed with the progress mate...keep it up...
lookin forward to the finished product
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Re: Gregas Celica... Wed, 28 April 2004 07:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
yeah me too mate. alot of work!
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Re: Gregas Celica...(new pix 25/04/04) Wed, 28 April 2004 07:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
what is next on the things to do list?
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Re: Gregas Celica...(new pix 25/04/04) Wed, 28 April 2004 08:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
sand doors. prime doors. sand. prime doors more. sand.
apply color to doors and underside of boot

apply clear to boot, beaver, front drivers guard and two doors - hang panels on car

fix passenger side guard as best i can (its fucked) and wait for a new one to replace it with in the future...
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Re: Gregas Celica...(new pix 25/04/04) Wed, 28 April 2004 09:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
o ok well good luck...
im amazed how far u have gotten so quickly...
takes some plp so long to get on with it
how long are u on holidays for? or are they over now?
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Re: Gregas Celica...(new pix 25/04/04) Wed, 28 April 2004 10:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mitch it took me 3 weeks pretty much well full on to get the main body of the car done

my holidays are OVER (sucks) so long long time now...
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Re: Gregas Celica...(new pix 25/04/04) Wed, 28 April 2004 10:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
well thats commitment for ur car...
keep it up
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Re: Gregas Celica...(new pix 25/04/04) Wed, 28 April 2004 13:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Best looking pic is still the one of what's IN the boot Very Happy Now you gonna come over and help me spray my KE70 Evil or Very Mad ??

Gotta say, it's good to see some results on this car, I might even actually have to drop over one day and look at it in the flesh. Now the next challenge - whose car will be 'done' first, yours or mine Shocked (and yes, I know a car is NEVER 'done'!)
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Re: Gregas Celica...(new pix 25/04/04) Wed, 28 April 2004 13:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Oh yeah, and I thought I was the only one that used brasso on cars... Been doing it for ages, never really admitted to it!
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Re: Gregas Celica...(new pix 25/04/04) Wed, 28 April 2004 22:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hey i was lokking at your pictures and was wondering what kind of seats are those and is that dash (around guages) custom cause it lokks really good. by the way great work on the car it looks good.
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Re: Gregas Celica...(new pix 25/04/04) Fri, 30 April 2004 14:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
standard dash painted silver by the looks of things, or maybe a GT dash, apparently they came out silver
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Re: Gregas Celica...(new pix 25/04/04) Fri, 30 April 2004 23:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
that'd be the one peewee, my dash looks like this :

http://www.vncommodore.com/images/celica/ta22dash039.jpg

shinny, so you like my battery box OR are you referring to the big APA thingo Evil or Very Mad

the seats are ae101 levin seats.

oh yeah shinny, forgot to mention something about an rb20bb turbo kinda finding its way on (oops) - at this rate yours will prolly be done before mine.... Smile
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Re: Gregas Celica...(new pix 25/04/04) Sat, 01 May 2004 14:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ahhhhh plus pretty new guages

are the speedo and tacho the original ones? they look like it, but at the same time don't look right, have you prettied up the originals or something? off the top of my head, maybe they originally had white arms and dashes?


wait wait, i checked, originally white dashes, orange needle is original

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Re: Gregas Celica...(new pix 25/04/04) Sat, 01 May 2004 22:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
yeah, they have the added bonus of some sample pot paint and a steady hand...came up ok IDEALLY i want autometer speedo and tacho but, can't justify the big money (just short of $800) for two gauges...
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Re: Gregas Celica...(new pix 25/04/04) Sun, 02 May 2004 06:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I think you'll find I meant the APA thingo Evil or Very Mad As for the turbo, buy my old one, you know you want to... At least that way I can get ride of that manifold etc Very Happy

And sample pot paint = Very Happy Very Happy
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Re: Gregas Celica...(new pix 25/04/04) Sun, 02 May 2004 13:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i know mate just teasin.... Twisted Evil

um, i've got an rb20bb turbo here at home mate...just need the manifold...and its all good.

i'll pm ya anyway
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Re: Gregas Celica...(new pix 25/04/04) Sun, 02 May 2004 23:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Also, remove that stinky-leaf, or I'll come do it PERSONALLY Razz
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Re: Gregas Celica...(new pix 25/04/04) Mon, 03 May 2004 09:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
shinny the stinky leaf is like 2 years old. only thing it smells of now mate is spray paint Very Happy
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Re: Gregas Celica...(new pix 25/04/04) Tue, 11 May 2004 07:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
well FINALLY got time to clear coat some shit :

http://www.vncommodore.com/images/celica/body/DSC00171.JPG

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Re: Gregas Celica...(new pix 25/04/04) Tue, 11 May 2004 08:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hey Grega,

Dude would you consider writing a kinda "tech" document on the steps of painting panels.

I have to do the same thing as you to a mates car, but on loose panels.

I have the basic idea, but if you wanted to bullet point say 10 required steps that would be sweet. Basically painting an already painted car for a decent finish. Not talking perfect her, just factory. Smile
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Re: Gregas Celica...(new pix 25/04/04) Tue, 11 May 2004 23:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
painting, already painted panels, well, if you're sticking with the original color, i'd ;

1. rub back with 800 grit (dry) make sure surface is clean and smoothe, no crows feet, ripples ect

2. not necessary, but, hit with hi-fill to smooth things out and fill little holes/issues

3. sand that back with 800 grit dry

4. hit with two coats of primer (let dry) - apply dust coat of shitty $2 spray (black) - then sand them back with 1200 wet - get nice and smooth

5. apply final coat - 4-5 coats normally makes good coverage and gets everything. be careful with sills. they are low and if the car is too you WILL miss bits. i did

6. if its metallic, don't rub it back. if its a flat color, rub back wet with 2000 grit. apply clear.

7. leave for a while (1-2 months) to let cure, then compound.

bear in mind prior to applying the next coat of paint, to make sure that ALL dust is removed (use wet rag then air compressor to dry) and before final coats of paint remember PREPSOL is your friend.

also get yourself a couple of tack rags to remove dust. very very handy things to have.
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Re: Gregas Celica...(new pix 25/04/04) Wed, 12 May 2004 01:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
never use sandpaper dry as it gets clogged and will scratch you surface then show up on the painted surface.
hi-fill is primer i dont know why you put another primer over the top.
sand hi-fill back once black guide coat is on rub it back with 400grit wet then do a light guide coat and then rub it back with 800grit wet making sure all the 400grit scratches are removed because paint fills 800grit scracthes.
paint the basecoat colour in nice light coats.
wait till dry the apply clear in 2 dry coats then one big wet coat.
wait till dry (16hrs 2pak) then you can cut and polish or do what ever you want....

need any other help with painting just ask...

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Re: Gregas Celica...(new pix 25/04/04) Wed, 12 May 2004 02:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Make sure the rag is like a 'lint free' type of cloth otherwise it'll screw things up. Always use a block when sanding too.

If you can get a hold of one, grab a blower heater or something of the sort to cure panels. But don't use it if there is lots of dust around that will get stirred up by the heater!

Also - sometimes when spraying it's a good idea to wet the ground around the area that you are spraying, helps to keep the levels of airborn dust down.

Just some tips...
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Re: Gregas Celica...(new pix 25/04/04) Wed, 12 May 2004 05:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
cool, thanks for the other input too guys.

i've found that the coverage of the hi fill actually isn't that great, so, i primed on top to make sure it was a smooth even finish - found it worked quite well actually.

agree with the dry sanding yes the paper gets clogged.

and yes definately lint free. cheesecloth works good here.

a blower heater is a bad idea - it will blow dust onto your work - better to use halogen lights (39.95 at bunnings)

also - wet the ground BUT make sure that the ground is dry as the water will cause humidity...
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Re: Gregas Celica...(new pix 25/04/04) Wed, 12 May 2004 06:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Good point about the halogen lights...

If you are spraying in a dusty environ - then yeah blower heater isn't good, but chances are that you probably will get alot of dust on the paint job regardless of the blower heater or not (if it is that dusty). It doesn't take alot of force for dust to get airborn and float around the place.
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Re: Gregas Celica...(new pix 25/04/04) Wed, 12 May 2004 06:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
guys thanks for the AWESOME stuff here this is GOLD! Smile

I have bookmarked this thread.. can't wait to get to work on my mates corolla
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Re: Gregas Celica...(new pix 25/04/04) Wed, 12 May 2004 07:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
also get a gravity feed gun, there so much better than suction fed guns...
always use a block and use long strokes to rub the whole panel evenly when rubbing hi-fill or primer back.

pics of my home respray will be up soon..

cheers fellas
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Re: Gregas Celica...(new pix 25/04/04) Wed, 12 May 2004 07:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I have been told gravity feed is not as good if you are a beginner and that you will end up spilling paint and that you really won't notice *that* much of a difference unless you are like a professional..

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Re: Gregas Celica...(new pix 25/04/04) Wed, 12 May 2004 07:49 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
yeah you spill abit of paint when its full and your unsteady but you can just half fill the pot on the gun and she will be sweet, well there not much difference in the finish its just easier to spray engine bays, under the sills and any other awkward place... trust me there much better...

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