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Yagoona Sydney
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December 2003
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need help!!!!!
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Mon, 10 May 2004 03:58
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hey dudes,
Ive encounterd a problem which im not sure if its serious or not. Driving my excel home last night and the thing started to cut out very seriously followed by some ugly tapping noises then heaps of smoke and ending with some metal flying out of the exhaust. I woke up this morning and turned the car on and to my suprise it was normal again just with that ugly tapping noise. Also last night when i got home i had a quick look under the car to find the exhaust thingy under the car glowing red. Whats going on?????
P.s Theres oil in the car
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Location:
Baulko Hillo
Registered:
April 2004
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Re: need help!!!!!
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Mon, 10 May 2004 04:04
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What's an exhaust thingy? You mean the cat?
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Location:
Central Coast, NSW
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: need help!!!!!
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Mon, 10 May 2004 04:07
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Maybe it was your engine that flew out the exhaust 
I've got no idea sorry but i'm sure someone will help ya very shortly. The cat converter (i'm assuming?) glowing red doesn't sound too crash hot though! possibly the cat broke down and was restricting airflow (made it get hot) and then shot the baffles out the back? I had that happen in my old laser
did you happen to check the temp gauge? could have even done a head gasket
then theres the ticking noise... a head gasket can cause the car to misfire when water gets into the cylinder
Dan
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Location:
Yagoona Sydney
Registered:
December 2003
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Location:
Epping, Sydney
Registered:
April 2003
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Re: need help!!!!!
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Mon, 10 May 2004 04:08
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hmmm
I think that your problem is that it's an excel.... 
j/k dude
that is wild. I wonder what it was?
boy I am no help at all ay
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Location:
Yagoona Sydney
Registered:
December 2003
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Location:
Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
Registered:
January 2003
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Re: need help!!!!!
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Mon, 10 May 2004 04:12
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first thing. pull out the cat and the first muffler, check if they are blocked.
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Location:
Baulko Hillo
Registered:
April 2004
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Re: need help!!!!!
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Mon, 10 May 2004 04:15
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I had a similar problem with my R32.... It ended up being the biscuits in the cat coming loose and wedging themselves blocking the exhaust flow. It may have been bits of the cat biscuits (Whiska's haha) coming out yo' zorst man..... How did you see it come out when you were driving anyway?????
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Location:
Yagoona Sydney
Registered:
December 2003
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Re: need help!!!!!
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Mon, 10 May 2004 04:17
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i seen it through my rear view it was at night and easy to see
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Location:
Central Coast, NSW
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: need help!!!!!
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Mon, 10 May 2004 04:58
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still could be the head gasket i'm guessing, oil could be getting into the cylinders and getting burnt. If there was something stuck in the cat it could have heated the engine up enough to do it. Did the temp gauge go up when it happened?
is it a blue/dark or a white smoke?
Dan
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Location:
Yagoona Sydney
Registered:
December 2003
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Re: need help!!!!!
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Mon, 10 May 2004 05:04
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temp. was normal when it happened. smoke is dark blue color
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Location:
Yagoona Sydney
Registered:
December 2003
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Re: need help!!!!!
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Mon, 10 May 2004 05:43
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any 1 with any suggestions? should i just sell and cut my loses as is.  damn friggin cars
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Location:
Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
Registered:
January 2003
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Re: need help!!!!!
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Mon, 10 May 2004 06:16
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heres a suggestion...
get a screwdriver, gaffa tape it to your ear, and lean in the engine bay 
but seriously tho... get a big screwdriver, put the tip at the base of each injector, and put your ear to the handle..
check that each of them is ticking the same...
if you had an injector fail or stick open, it would inject heaps of fuel, causing dark smoke (fuel/carbon smoke), causing that cylinder to miss badly (loss of power) and would cause the cat to heat up very quickly (since heaps of fuel + air from the non-burning cylinder) and could cause the cat internals to break down/melt/clog/etc, and is often a cause of cats to glow to red hot....
just being clogged shouldn't make them that hot, except if it was a turboed car with high exhaust flow/heat, but catalytically burning a shiteload of fuel in the cat will definitely do that  ...
anyhoo, even so, your cat is probably shagged.. they don't like being THAT hot.
let us know how you go with the injectors
Cya, Stewart
[Updated on: Mon, 10 May 2004 06:18]
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I supported Toymods
Location:
Perth, Western Australia
Registered:
December 2002
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Re: need help!!!!!
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Mon, 10 May 2004 06:23
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Leaded fuel in an unleaded car is a quick and easy way to stuff a Cat Converter, have you made a mistake while refueling recently?
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Location:
Yagoona Sydney
Registered:
December 2003
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Re: need help!!!!!
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Mon, 10 May 2004 06:58
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i filled it with unleaded im 100% sure. Injectors all sound the same.......... i turned the car on and after about 10secs the car stopped smoking and ticking. But there is absolutely not a drop of oil on the stick and i just filled the motherf**ker yesterday.
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Location:
cambo
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May 2002
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Re: need help!!!!!
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Mon, 10 May 2004 07:48
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well if its not leaking oil then it is obviously going into the combustion chamber, either past the piston rings or via the headgasket which is what it sounds like to me. but thats only the start of your problems. theres no way around it, your up for a visit to a mechanic.
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Location:
Yagoona Sydney
Registered:
December 2003
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Re: need help!!!!!
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Mon, 10 May 2004 11:47
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ahhhhhhhhh f**k!!!!!! just what i needed
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Location:
Yagoona Sydney
Registered:
December 2003
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Re: need help!!!!!
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Mon, 10 May 2004 23:38
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well a little update......... fixed the problem kinda........ i threw the prick in the tradingpost. hopefully someone will take it poor poor excel.
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Location:
Brissy QLD
Registered:
March 2004
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Re: need help!!!!!
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Mon, 10 May 2004 23:41
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good call, ditch the excel
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Location:
south east - melbourne
Registered:
March 2004
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Re: need help!!!!!
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Tue, 11 May 2004 04:45
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HEAD GASKET or PISTON RINGS
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Location:
cambo
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: need help!!!!!
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Tue, 11 May 2004 07:16
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mate thats the best solution, pass the problem off to someone else haha.
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Location:
Brissy QLD
Registered:
March 2004
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Re: need help!!!!!
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Tue, 11 May 2004 07:32
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yeah its okay for me, wouldn't touch a hyundai with a long long long pole, i have an infinity to hate them for some reason. not sure if its founded or not.
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Location:
Yagoona Sydney
Registered:
December 2003
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Re: need help!!!!!
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Tue, 11 May 2004 10:53
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there ok cars for daily chores. I called Lube Mobile and they quoted me a bullshit $890 to change a headgasket.
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Location:
toowoomba qld
Registered:
March 2004
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Re: need help!!!!!
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Tue, 11 May 2004 11:11
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| SetMeFree wrote on Tue, 11 May 2004 20:53 |
there ok cars for daily chores. I called Lube Mobile and they quoted me a bullshit $890 to change a headgasket.
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fark  thats not good mate
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Location:
Yagoona Sydney
Registered:
December 2003
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Re: need help!!!!!
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Tue, 11 May 2004 11:33
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i know and i really really need a car but 2 broke 2 fix this one...... so its up 4 sale as is and hopefully ill get enough money for it to buy some shit box with a bit of rego.
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Location:
cambo
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: need help!!!!!
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Wed, 12 May 2004 06:47
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mate that price isnt that bad when you consider the costs before the mechanic starts making profit. VRS kit, head service and machining etc... but back on subject - hyundai's are shit. the sonata im driving chewed the crap outta the power window motor so the window is stuck down, had to jam a piece of wood in their to keep the window closed hahahaha. oh yeah and i got better fuel economy outta my boosted gze what a crap box.
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Location:
Yagoona Sydney
Registered:
December 2003
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Re: need help!!!!!
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Wed, 12 May 2004 07:06
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well i had some one better look at it and they found the problems. Coil is fucked..... headgasket is gone..... he quoted me a cute $350 to fix incl new coil.
P.s: family friend thats why its so cheap!
P.s.s: car is still 4 sale though.
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Location:
Yagoona Sydney
Registered:
December 2003
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Re: need help!!!!!
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Wed, 12 May 2004 09:57
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damn it and the computer is farked 
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Location:
Brissy QLD
Registered:
March 2004
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Re: need help!!!!!
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Wed, 12 May 2004 13:45
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Moral or the story: don't by a hyundai!!!
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Location:
toowoomba qld
Registered:
March 2004
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Re: need help!!!!!
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Thu, 13 May 2004 06:37
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| DunkyMonkey wrote on Wed, 12 May 2004 23:45 |
Moral or the story: don't by a hyundai!!!
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A mate of mine brought a Hyundai brand new and has gone through 2 gearboxes in 3 years!!!!
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Location:
Brissy QLD
Registered:
March 2004
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Re: need help!!!!!
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Thu, 13 May 2004 12:03
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my mate bought a new getz, its nearly dead in a year, i'm sure hes not serious when he said that hes goin to do it up!!!!
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Location:
Yagoona Sydney
Registered:
December 2003
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Re: need help!!!!!
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Sun, 16 May 2004 01:56
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2 be honest this is the first problem ive had since ive owned it and my previous excel never gave me a problem. yeh there gay cars yes there ugly but damn there reliable and damn there cheap to run.
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Location:
Brissy QLD
Registered:
March 2004
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Re: need help!!!!!
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Sun, 16 May 2004 13:32
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so was my last corolla, i now have a celica
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Location:
toowoomba qld
Registered:
March 2004
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Re: need help!!!!!
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Mon, 17 May 2004 03:51
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my mates Hyundai wouldn't be a bad car if he'd look after it
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Location:
Brissy QLD
Registered:
March 2004
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Re: need help!!!!!
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Mon, 17 May 2004 09:28
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i'm sure if my mate didn't trash his GETZ then it would be okay, then again where would the fun be in that??? ~why you would even bother trashing a getz is beyond me~
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Location:
toowoomba qld
Registered:
March 2004
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Re: need help!!!!!
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Mon, 17 May 2004 09:36
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I was rather surprised by the Accent's performance off the mark not earth shattering but better then what I thought it would be as for the Getz do they actually go?
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Location:
Brissy QLD
Registered:
March 2004
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Re: need help!!!!!
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Mon, 17 May 2004 09:47
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yeah not too fast tho, altho i have never really seen it got, it chased me in my old rolla once, 1980 KE50 1.3, it was a fair match up, i couldn't get back in to a car with such a small engine now tho.
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Location:
toowoomba qld
Registered:
March 2004
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Re: need help!!!!!
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Mon, 17 May 2004 10:10
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My Camry would have more top speed then me mates Accent though (like every hyundai I have driven)reckon wouldn't be a bad car though for a getting around but can't see myself ever owning one. I suppose its what you like but
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Location:
Brissy QLD
Registered:
March 2004
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Re: need help!!!!!
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Mon, 17 May 2004 10:24
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i like my celica, and i will like that supra too.
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