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SuperCharged 1G-GTE
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Tue, 10 September 2002 14:32
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anyone seen this done? will the factory gze mounts fit onto a twin turbo engine? i'm hungry for just a bit more power 
any info will be greatly appreciated, if u can suppl the parts, even better! thanx guys
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Welly, NZ
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July 2002
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Re: SuperCharged 1G-GTE
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Tue, 10 September 2002 20:32
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Sorry can't help you - I'm interested in the answer to this as well.
Also, does anyone know if there are any internal differences between the 1G-GTE and 1G-GZE??
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PNG
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June 2002
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Tue, 10 September 2002 22:02
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For wot earthly reason would u want to do this?
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May 2002
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Re: SuperCharged 1G-GTE
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Tue, 10 September 2002 22:43
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Uh... the supercharged engines have less power from the factory than the turbo engines. What makes you think this will get you more power??
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Welly, NZ
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July 2002
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Re: SuperCharged 1G-GTE
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Tue, 10 September 2002 23:55
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Hang on, do you mean you want to supercharge it and turbo charge it i.e twin charge it!!!!
Its been done before on Toyota engines with some sucess, it won't give you more power though, just improved bottom end.
Anyways, I'd still like to know the answers to the original questions if any one knows??
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Cabramatta, NSW
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May 2002
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I supported Toymods
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melbourne.victoria.austra...
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June 2002
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Brisbane / Gold Coast
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May 2002
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Re: SuperCharged 1G-GTE
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Wed, 11 September 2002 05:24
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Yep, though I ended up not using it and sold it back to the importers I bought it off.
Rolin's have it again, and fingers crossed it'll be ready for the Jamboree in a couple of weeks. Look out for a stock looking but very fast old Hilux ute.
Here's the engine -
Estimated at about 450hp, with lots of boost at all revs.
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Canberra
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May 2002
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Re: SuperCharged 1G-GTE
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Wed, 11 September 2002 06:31
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Holy crap! is that thing for real? is it a factory setup? ive never heard of such a monster!
Anyone have any history/facts about that thing?
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Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: SuperCharged 1G-GTE
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Wed, 11 September 2002 09:56
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I'm pretty sure these things start out as a 1G-GZE, then a HKS/TRD/whatever twincharge kit is bolted on. Same deal as the twincharge kit popular with the Mk1 MR2 boys.
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Rocky Mountains, Canada
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May 2002
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Re: SuperCharged 1G-GTE
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Wed, 11 September 2002 14:28
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Do the factory GZE and GTE run the same low compression?
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Yowie Bay, Sydney
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June 2002
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Re: SuperCharged 1G-GTE
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Thu, 12 September 2002 10:17
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WHY!?
my daily driver is a 351 ute, i'm used to having power instantly
its not that i want more power, i want more instant power
i aint no back yarder either, who gave ya that idea??
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Perth
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May 2002
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Re: SuperCharged 1G-GTE
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Thu, 12 September 2002 11:41
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Nope, I think the 1GGZE runs 8.0:1 and the 1GGTE runs 8.5:1
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Welly, NZ
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July 2002
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Thu, 12 September 2002 22:26
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Other than compression (and presumably therefore pistons) are there any other internal differences between the 1G-GZE and 1G-GTE????
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Re: SuperCharged 1G-GTE
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Thu, 12 September 2002 23:11
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I doubt it.
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Cabramatta, NSW
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Re: SuperCharged 1G-GTE
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Thu, 12 September 2002 23:55
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| Dabbid wrote on Thu, 12 September 2002 20:17 |
WHY!?
my daily driver is a 351 ute, i'm used to having power instantly
its not that i want more power, i want more instant power
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Hmm... To each, their own I suppose. Have you ever driven a turbo? The rush is very addictive...
| Dabbid wrote on Thu, 12 September 2002 20:17 |
i aint no back yarder either, who gave ya that idea??
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Err... By "backyarder", I meant a one off thing. It's way too mcuh stuffing around to make it worthwhile unless you were going to mass produce it. Even then, I still don't think the benefits outweigh the drawbacks.
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Newcastle, NSW, Australia
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May 2002
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Re: SuperCharged 1G-GTE
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Tue, 17 September 2002 01:50
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Before people get too carried away let me point out that there was NEVER a twin-charge kit produced for the 1GGZE. As Norbie suggested, there were single turbo manifolds produced by HKS/TRD but these were predominately used to replace the small twins, not necessarily to twin-charge a GZE engine.
Also, as someone else rightly pointed out, the blower will give huge bottom end torque but the overall power will still be dependant on the size and type of turbo. Even if you do manage to effectively plumb something up, there are other mechanical issues to deal with such as the type of cam to use (supercharging requires short duration, high lift whereas turbo uses long duration, shorter lift) and how the twin-charge valving system will operate.
While twin-charging sounds exciting, the reality is that modern turbo's (having low inertia wheels and design aided by computer) can provide very fast spooling that eliminates poor low-end response. I once got the opportunity to talk to a guy who owned a twin-charged 4AGZE. Even he admitted the set-up was far from perfect and the difference between this and a properly matched modern turbo was questionable.
[Updated on: Tue, 17 September 2002 02:00]
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Re: SuperCharged 1G-GTE
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Tue, 17 September 2002 02:39
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Hey.
I saw this engine at Rolin last I was in there.....
Looked pretty good, except the pipe work didn't look all that impressive though.............
Have you ever driven a supercharged car?? The rush is very different than a turboed car!! I don't want to give my mates corolla back to him now  Actually I want to do the same conversion into the 4WD corolla, but i'm not sure that the engine will bolt up to the 4WD gearbox....Anybody??
Yes these new turbo's are pretty good for response, but still don't match the response a supercharger has low down. But these turbo's are very expensive to buy, even secondhand....
I'me pretty sure that the 1GGZE is built in the same fashion as the 4AGZE with all the forged goodies, but the 1GGTE isn't???
So it would be better to use the 1GGZE engine to turbo it, like everbody is doing with the 4AGZE's.
Cheers Nilezy
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Re: SuperCharged 1G-GTE
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Tue, 17 September 2002 04:13
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| nilezy wrote on Tue, 17 September 2002 12:39 |
I'me pretty sure that the 1GGZE is built in the same fashion as the 4AGZE with all the forged goodies, but the 1GGTE isn't???
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I strongly doubt that, since the GTE runs more boost and has more power than the GZE...
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Newcastle, NSW, Australia
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May 2002
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Re: SuperCharged 1G-GTE
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Tue, 17 September 2002 05:07
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I've pulled a few 1GGZE and 1GTTE's apart and the internals are identical. Thick webbing on the block ribs and heavy duty con-rods. They do NOT have forged pistons though. I have never had the interest to cc either engine but the info on Mattys Toyota page suggest compression is 8.0 for the ZE and 8.5 for the TE.
I'm not sure who Nilezy was directing the "Have you ever driven a supercharged car??" at but I was not advocating either method of forced induction, only making the point that trying to make both work effectively is difficult and costly.
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Brisbane
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Re: SuperCharged 1G-GTE
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Tue, 31 May 2005 08:10
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hey guys, my dad is trying to convince me to supercharge my 1GGTE (after i get it in  ), he supercharged a 4AGTE for a bloke near by here, i think it was in a KExx corolla, had over 300Kw at the wheels, to give you an idea, he saw the same car a few days ago, there was a new monaro, and a beemer playing around at the lights, and after one or two goes it was established the beemer was the better... the last time they lines up at the lights, the corolla joined in the far lane... and left them both standing on the line... apparantly the 1GGTE has bigger oil galleries etc,
note: this is what i've been told... can't guarantee it...
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Brisbane
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October 2002
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Re: SuperCharged 1G-GTE
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Tue, 31 May 2005 08:25
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| nilezy wrote on Tue, 17 September 2002 12:39 |
Hey.
Have you ever driven a supercharged car?? The rush is very different than a turboed car!! I don't want to give my mates corolla back to him now Actually I want to do the same conversion into the 4WD corolla, but i'm not sure that the engine will bolt up to the 4WD gearbox....Anybody??
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there was a nice AE95 4WD wagon down the coast, had a turbo 4AGZE in it
go to www.boostcruising.com and do a search for it
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