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Re: * UZX73 Update * I'm Getting There...
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Thu, 29 April 2004 07:01
 
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He must have got a job with ASIO, lucky dude. Red's under my bed, Leb's selling me hot mobile phones, you know ! (J/K).
I am planning to use Martin Sims as my engineer in Perth, I have not sppken to him for a while, but when I do and its worthwhile passing on, I will do that.
Mitch.
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Thu, 29 April 2004 09:29
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who works for ASIO?  what?
if Jack ends up costing me too much - which no doubt he will as i'm up to $300 and he hasn't even written the report or done a braking test yet - i might try that bloke.
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Re: * UZX73 Update * I'm Getting There...
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Sun, 02 May 2004 09:59
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Well, the box is pretty much designed, just gotta be tidied up.
Will do another test in the upcoming week, hopefully we can get some idle this time!!
Will keep y'all updated
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Tue, 04 May 2004 02:00
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yeah, please do mate. i was in touch with Alan on the weekend and he sounds HELL busy, with the house building and all.
i would be keen to buy one of those switching devices so keep us updated.
apparently the grounding rings don't work or something...?
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Tue, 04 May 2004 03:34
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Do you know your "master tuner" rang Dick a little while ago asking about prices etc. I think he was ready to give up.
I was talking to Dick, and he might be interested in a group buy as it makes it worth while to build them. I think the figure he was thinking about would be 5 sets for $300 each.
Of course then you'd have to find a couple of V8 ignition modules and wire it up.
Something to think about.
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Tue, 04 May 2004 05:15
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he's pretty busy. and i don't appreciate the sarcasm.
Alan's a great bloke going to great lengths to develop his own kit, he was prob trying to get one just to get the things running and then work backwards - more of a stopgap than a solution.
but thanks for the info.
still, i'm glad i waited 6 months, as they're now half price
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Tue, 04 May 2004 11:07
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Wasn't talking to you. Was talking to CruZsida.
As for half the price - no, sorry if you want one it'll still cost $600. If you want 5 they'll be $300 each. Its not worth making just one for $300. Maybe he might make a batch of them and sell them at a lower price, but so far everyone is trying to make their own kit.
No one understands the amount of time and effort (and  that goes into making it work until they're finished.
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Tue, 04 May 2004 14:05
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Yeah, the grounding rings were a fucked idea, and had I thought seriously about it earlier, I woulda realised it.
I'll draw a diagram later, but I cbf right now.
Pete, onejayzed and I have the same tuner btw, so any comment you direct at me about Alan (the tuner) can also be directed at him, thats why he got narky.
Anyway, petty squabling aside, Alan isn't an auto eletrician, he is a tuner. He couldn't build one of these devices, or even conceive the idea of one because he has had no training in that area.
It takes years of study to learn how to create circuits from stratch, and be able to splice them into existing systems. I know this coz I have studied it for a few years, but took a different path towards the end to study high voltage, not low/extremely low voltage.
I do know of the time dick would have spent building and testing the module. The guy building mine has already spent a good 6 hours around the car, with his CRO, DMM, AMM and such, as well as many hours designing the circuit itself. He has basically built our own ignition module, that goes between the camira ignition module and the coils.
Time will tell if it works, and we should be able to test it later this week. But our tuner leave for a 2-3 week holiday tomoz (wednesday), and I fly up north sometime in the next few weeks, so it could be up to 5 weeks before anything happens.
But it will happen (hopefully)
And Pete, it would be a bitch for me to use dicks box, coz I have stripped all unneeded wires from the harness (ie, I only have one cam sensor in, and I only reinstalled that on saturday) and I have removed 8 of the 12 teeth on the crank angle sensor (as has onejayzed), so I would have to source a few parts before dicks box would work. But yes, it is the last option, that we KNOW will allow the motor to work.
The main reason Alan is wanting to stay away from it is because of the extra cost. You take the cost of converting to Delco (minimum 100, up to maybe 300 in parts), then you add the Kalmaker ECU if you want to tune it yourself (1100) and then you add dicks box (600) you have spent around 2000 in parts, and thats if you wire it yourself. Add a good 500 or so for a professional to do it, and then you almost start talking MoTeC costs, and you are definately talking Autronic costs. Now, you try to convince the average joe that the 15+ year old Delco system is better/as good as the 2004 Autronic for the same cost and you will have an uphill battle on your hands.
Just thinking from Alan's point of view there.
I shall keep y'all informed of my progress
Toodles for now
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Re: * UZX73 Update * I'm Getting There...
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Wed, 05 May 2004 02:55
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| HKSPete wrote on Tue, 04 May 2004 21:07 |
Wasn't talking to you. Was talking to CruZsida.
As for half the price - no, sorry if you want one it'll still cost $600. If you want 5 they'll be $300 each. Its not worth making just one for $300. Maybe he might make a batch of them and sell them at a lower price, but so far everyone is trying to make their own kit.
No one understands the amount of time and effort (and that goes into making it work until they're finished.
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what CrUZ said ^^^^ regarding Alan.
and i'm thinking i know of 5 people incl. myself who would use such a device, hence my cost would be halved as well  and i'm sure Alan would love to get a hold of a few for some of the conversions he's got coming his way.
don't get me wrong HKSPete, i understand how much time something like that woudl take, but to me, $600 is a little steep for such a device. then again, i do shop at IKEA so i'm kinda a whinger about price everywhere i go...
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Wed, 05 May 2004 03:03
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| CrUZsida wrote on Wed, 05 May 2004 00:05 |
I do know of the time dick would have spent building and testing the module. The guy building mine has already spent a good 6 hours around the car, with his CRO, DMM, AMM and such, as well as many hours designing the circuit itself. He has basically built our own ignition module, that goes between the camira ignition module and the coils.
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If this device is for between the delco and the coils you may be able to do it in a short time. And you can used a cut up crank trigger.
As for spending 6 hours with his stuff around the car, that is still about 34 hours short of what dick spent. Honestly dick spent about 4 weeks STRAIGHT on it, with my car at his workshop and with constantly improving his device. Still I re-iterate I don't believe anyone knows how much time is needed until its done.
I really hope your car is running soon, with the amount of work you've put in it'd be a nice reward!
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Wed, 26 May 2004 05:26
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Iam basically in the same boat as u at the moment CrUZsida, in terms of ignition.
U were saying that Alan wasnt sure about the circuit he was designing would be able to switch fast enough, well i had thought the same thing with the one iam building for my conversion and after a few calculations i found that the ignition isnt firing all that fast. There is about 1.6ms between each spark signal @ 9000rpm, the microcontroller iam using has 1us instructions so it can do heaps off calculations between switching dizzies, id say Alan has nothing to worry about if his design is similar to what iam doing.
I have a few questions for u if u dont mind:
1) what are u using for the IAC?? It looks like the Toyota one can be used on the Delco but i dont wanna blow it or the ECU up trying!
2) Are u still using the Toyota crank sensor? If so, does this work fine with a camira ignition module??
Hope you are having as much fun with the Delco as Iam 
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Wed, 26 May 2004 05:35
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Ha!
I've had my fun with the Delco, and now I am ready to move on.
Yes the IAC works fine (I think, it seems to operate fine)
Yes the Toyota CAS works fine, as do the cam ones.
My box is pretty much built, and seems to be working, but I think I need a set of clean plugs to get her running.
I will know soon
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Wed, 26 May 2004 06:01
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How did you wire the IAC up? I had to make another module to control mine, as the delco has a two coil setup where the toyota one is 4 coil (to my understanding). I still havn't put the module on though, so can't say its working.
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Wed, 26 May 2004 23:03
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Correct KDog, it shouldn't be.
That was a drawing I did before I even started wiring her up.
And yes, there should be +12V IGN at the back of the injectors, and to the IGN module, as well as the outercasing of the IGN module should be grounded. (That caused 2 weeks of delays, grrrrr)
I do intend to update the drawing, but eh, I CBF.
Oh, and the Toyota CAS is compatible, perfectly compatible.
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Re: * UZX73 Update * I'm Getting There...
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Sun, 30 May 2004 15:23
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Ok, I got her running again today.
Put an old set of commodore v8 spark plugs (same model number(ish)), put a different fuel chip in there, and she fired straight up.
Idled for about 5 mins too, then the spark plugs fouled coz she is running WAY UBER rich.
Hopefully try and get the fucker tuned in the next day or so...
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Re: * UZX73 Update * I'm Getting There...
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Tue, 01 June 2004 08:48
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Tue, 01 June 2004 23:28
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"Help MEEEEEE!!! I'm Drowning!!!!" i think is what your looking at there
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Wed, 02 June 2004 00:04
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Couldn't open it?
Sounds interesting, though.
FWIW, I've been following this thread for yonks, but have only been registered recently.
I certainly admire your grit in this project; many others would have given up by now, including probably me 
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Re: * UZX73 Update * I'm Getting There...
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Wed, 02 June 2004 01:26
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Yeah, Sorry guys
I didnt realise just how bad the film was.
When I compressed it from the camera (4.5meg) down to DivX5 it lost a huge amount of quality, and all the brightness.
You can see what I'm doing in the original though.
I'll try and push the car out into the light and do it again today.
But this is a quick story.
I have 3 map chips to choose.
One uses a standard commodore fuel/timing map but set for 4.0L or air.
One uses the same map but with a 25% reduction in injector rate.
The last uses the same map but with the 25% reduction and timing reference angle moved by 20 deg.
Now, she just WONT run at all on any of the reduced fuel chips, but will run on the first chip, but runs EXTREMELY rich (as you can see by the amount of smoke at the end of the clip) and the plugs will foul up after a few mins of running.
Sooooo wierd.
And everytime I get the tuner over with the programmable ECU, we just can't get it to run to bring up the stats on the screen.
Its sooooo annoying, and driving me (and him) insane.
Oh well.
Heres hoping I can try again today.
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Wed, 02 June 2004 01:43
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We started mine on the V8 "brock" chip. Started first time, and idled (@700rpm), gotta love the 1UZ. Then started the process of pulling fuel out & increasing the timing something stupid.
If your getting really frustrated you might be able to buy my chip from Dick. Even though your ignition is different, if its setup properly (inputs from the engine and outputs to the engine are the same) then it'll work great. Only problem is I'm sure my fuel pressure would be different as I've got a BIG fuel pump, and a kink in the return line. Thats why I'm using only 66% duty. So then you'd have to tune it again anyway ... Ahh well, there goes that idea.
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Wed, 02 June 2004 05:07
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so is Alan back from Broome yet?
i want my crank trigger sensor back, engine is going in for the last time this week and it'll be a bitch to get at otherwise.
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Wed, 02 June 2004 05:58
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Yeah, he's back
But the CAS is easy to put in with a motor in there.
Piss easy infact.
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Re: * UZX73 Update * I'm Getting There...
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Wed, 02 June 2004 06:22
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| HKSPete wrote on Wed, 02 June 2004 09:43 |
If your getting really frustrated you might be able to buy my chip from Dick. Even though your ignition is different, if its setup properly (inputs from the engine and outputs to the engine are the same) then it'll work great. Only problem is I'm sure my fuel pressure would be different as I've got a BIG fuel pump, and a kink in the return line. Thats why I'm using only 66% duty. So then you'd have to tune it again anyway ... Ahh well, there goes that idea.
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That may be an option Pete, but I fly back up tomorrow, and so we'll have to wait 3 weeks before I'm back to try again.
And FYI, the fuel pressure is controlled by the fuel pressure regulator, not the pump, but as you said, you have a kink in the return line, which would increase the pressure.
We'll sort it out upon my return.
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Thu, 03 June 2004 02:36
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Reason I put in the pump change is you won't (IMHO) get that fuel pressure from a stock pump. Even if you changed the FPR.
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Thu, 03 June 2004 04:45
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| HKSPete wrote on Thu, 03 June 2004 10:36 |
Reason I put in the pump change is you won't (IMHO) get that fuel pressure from a stock pump. Even if you changed the FPR.
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The stock 5mge is at 250kpa, and the 1uzfe is at 290kpa.
I would have thought that this increase would have been easily covered by the stock pump
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Thu, 03 June 2004 04:54
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Sorry, I should've been more specific. I was talking about the pressure I'm running in mine, which is a lot higher not sure what it is exactly, would be ineteresting to find out.
I wasn't comparing 5M to 1U pumps.
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Sat, 05 June 2004 04:33
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Ok, I've had a big think abuot this not running shit, and I have come up with a possible scenario.
I have an 8cyl tacho wired in, straight up to the +ve and -ve coil outputs from the ignition module.
Now, when I start her up, the tacho sits on 4000rpm.
I never though much of this before because of the twin coils, and the black box we have built, so I didnt expect the tacho to work correctly.
Now, what if the ignition module WAS pulsing at 4000rpm.
Then wouldn't the ECU be getting a signal that the motor was spinning at 4000rpm, and hence be pouring in the fuel, not wanting to rev, etc etc etc.
But this leads to the question, where is it possible that my wiring has gotten all fucked up. I can't think of any place in the system that would cause this to occur.
But it does explain a lot.
When I get home (in 3 weeks), I will start her up, and put a tacho on one of the coils, and see how often they are pulsing.
Maybe, just maybe I have sorted this out.
But there is always the possibility that its just plain to rich.
Thoughts Gents (and/or ladies)?
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Sun, 06 June 2004 12:04
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Well the tacho is connected ok, if u put it after the black box it will read half the RPM, but where u have it it will see every pulse going to each coil. Another reason it may not work is the tacho may not be compatable with this type of ignition system or it is set to 4cyl mode.
Best way to tell if it is trying to run at 4000rpm is to hook up Kalmaker or an ALDL reader and see what the ECU *thinks* its running at. Plus u can see what the other sensors are doing. If it was trying to run at 4000rpm when in reality only doing say 1000rpm i would expect a fair bit of backfiring from cross spark.
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Sun, 06 June 2004 22:49
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Well, it would help if I had an ALDL reader, or a Kalmaker set up, but I don't.
And yes, the tacho is compatible.
If a tacho isnt compatible with a standard commmodore ignition system, then something is wrong.
And I did set it to 4cyl, but it went up to 8000 rpm (as you'd expect)
I'll just have to wait until Alan and I can try it again.
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Mon, 07 June 2004 02:54
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If u have a laptop get WinALDL - its free. Cable is easy as to make. Ive got it all if ya wanna try it when ya get back??
I have seen tacho's that arnt compatable with the holden ignition system, i think the one you have should be though - autometer one yeah??
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Mon, 07 June 2004 03:04
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WinALDL hey?
I might have to look into that.
And yeah, its an Autometer
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Wed, 09 June 2004 03:32
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Ok
I've come to the conclusion that she is firing to often.
ie, the ecu thinks the motor is doing 4000rpm, when she is actually doing 1000rpm (or what-have-you)
Now, how the fuck this has happened, and how the fuck I can fix it remain a mystery.
All I can think of is that the ECU or the Ignition Module are faulty, so I can swap them for ones that work.
But besides those 2 items I have no idea.
Unless the CAS has got interference from somewhere, I am all out of ideas.
Any help?
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Fri, 11 June 2004 02:10
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How did u wire up the CAS to the ignition module?? U should use sheilded, twin core cable with the sheild connected to ground at only the module end. Iam using microphone/audio cable. The only way to be certain this is what is happening is to use Kalmaker or WinALDL, that way u know what the computer is doing, dont believe the tacho! But it would however explain why the thing is running like a POS.
Also the dizzy switching circuit is not as easy as it first appears to be. After looking into it a bit more there are a few things i have overlooked, not sure how u have it setup but mine would have worked but given a very average spark output.
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Fri, 11 June 2004 02:38
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The CAS is using the original wiring, so it should be nicely sheilded.
But there is every chance that the earth isnt connected, and its fucked.
Its something that I will have to work out later.
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Thu, 17 June 2004 23:47
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Due to renewed interest, I will have this running and driving next week
I get home on friday, and I will know by friday arvo if its happening.
Will keep you posted
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Thu, 17 June 2004 23:59
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I've been following this silently, and I gotta say, you are nothing if not persistent and should be majorly congratulated !!!
I hope that all of your efforts give you the staisfaction that you deserve 
Cheers
Michael B
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Fri, 18 June 2004 00:02
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| bbaacchhyy wrote on Fri, 18 June 2004 07:59 |
I've been following this silently, and I gotta say, you are nothing if not persistent and should be majorly congratulated !!!
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The fact that I have been home 3 days in the last 5 weeks hasnt helped either!!
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Fri, 18 June 2004 01:47
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He knows who ya are Mitch I'll be there with bells on Friday midday after my exam Peewee...expect some 1G assistance though 
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Fri, 18 June 2004 01:58
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| justcallmefrank wrote on Fri, 18 June 2004 09:47 |
Peewee...expect some 1G assistance though
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Yeah, I know, but when...
My next RnR looks like it may be rescheduled to 30th July, not 23rd.
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Fri, 18 June 2004 02:03
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THATS GAY! I'm gonna need your help on the 28th then! You can drive me to the workshop in your car
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Fri, 18 June 2004 02:07
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| justcallmefrank wrote on Fri, 18 June 2004 10:03 |
THATS GAY! I'm gonna need your help on the 28th then! You can drive me to the workshop in your car
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You talking about 28th June? if so, I think Krystle has managed to get the day off work, and if thats the case, driving you around won't be a high priority!
Haha
But seriously, we'll see what happens.
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Fri, 18 June 2004 02:09
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How about the 29th?
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Thu, 24 June 2004 04:44
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| CrUZsida wrote on Fri, 18 June 2004 07:47 |
Due to renewed interest, I will have this running and driving next week
I get home on friday, and I will know by friday arvo if its happening.
Will keep you posted
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Make that monday, not friday...
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Fri, 25 June 2004 01:15
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| sideshow wrote on Thu, 24 June 2004 15:53 |
if u still have problems u could always fit an autronic
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Yeah, and I'll just pull the $2000 out of my arse
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Fri, 25 June 2004 01:38
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while your there can you get some for me please????
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Re: * UZX73 Update * taps nose suggestively...
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Fri, 25 June 2004 06:54
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heheh
well 3 or more weeks of problem solving and gettin nowhere its easier to fit an autronic heheh
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Re: * UZX73 Update * taps nose suggestively...
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Fri, 25 June 2004 08:35
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Pahahahaha, 3 weeks Try a good couple of months
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Re: * UZX73 Update * taps nose suggestively...
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Fri, 25 June 2004 08:58
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"tuesday"
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I supported Toymods
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Re: * UZX73 Update * taps nose suggestively...
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Thu, 01 July 2004 00:30
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Just lettling y'all know that she is booked in for tuning on Saturday 10th July.
Will hopefully post some pics and vids that arvo.
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Re: * UZX73 Update * taps nose suggestively...
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Sat, 10 July 2004 18:09
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Any word yet?
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Re: * UZX73 Update * taps nose suggestively...
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Mon, 12 July 2004 02:43
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Congrats on getting it up and running!
Nice note...
One thing, is it retarding slightly above, say, 4K?
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Re: * UZX73 Update * taps nose suggestively...
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Mon, 12 July 2004 02:57
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| rick_o wrote on Mon, 12 July 2004 10:43 |
One thing, is it retarding slightly above, say, 4K?
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I have no idea whats going on.
There are ignition problems somewhere.
Dunno what it is tho.
Didnt really have time over the weekend to sort it out.
Will try again next RnR, but we did thrash the shit out of her for about 150kms.
95% of the time she is only running at 50% power, but occasionally she pulls full power.
she went from 70 up to 110 in about 8ish seconds up a hill, in 4th.
Cant wait for full power
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 Re: * UZX73 Update * Up and Running, Vid Inside...
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Mon, 12 July 2004 03:28
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Nice work Peewee, must be great to finally get it back on the road. I will download the vid tonight, cant see it on this PC as it hasnt got divx  but it certainly sounds pretty sweet so far.
Did u have a look at what the original memcal was?? That is if u spoke to Brad yesterday after u called him??
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Re: * UZX73 Update * Up and Running, Vid Inside...
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Mon, 12 July 2004 03:36
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| MaxPower wrote on Mon, 12 July 2004 11:28 |
Did u have a look at what the original memcal was?? That is if u spoke to Brad yesterday after u called him??
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I'll have a chat to Alan about that memcal when I give it back to him.
I swapped the 4cyl Camira one, and he gave me what I presumed was an 8cly one.
And when we filmed the output of the ignition module, it was pulsing 8 times per double revolution, so I presume it was an 8cyl one.
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