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no_tofu_speed
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New Corolla engine Vs 4age comments Sun, 11 July 2004 15:40 Go to next message
Just was thinking, how the new Corolla engine (forget which it is - but this 1.8 is noted to have 100KW and 171Nm) compares to the reputable 4age 100KW, be interesting to see dyno and torque curve or each matched up.
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Re: New Corolla engine Vs 4age comments Sun, 11 July 2004 21:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
That's the 1ZZ-FE, but screw that, look at the 2ZZ-GE - it kills both of them. I want to try and get a look at one sometime soon, see how hard it's be to make RWD...
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Re: New Corolla engine Vs 4age comments Sun, 11 July 2004 22:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
we have already made the zz series rwd in our clubmans. the bellhousing & the sum is not too had to make - but the wiring is a killer!! super complex!

(& yes they are pretty good in a clubbie!!!)

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Re: New Corolla engine Vs 4age comments Mon, 12 July 2004 01:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
is it true that they are chain driven not belt?
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Re: New Corolla engine Vs 4age comments Mon, 12 July 2004 01:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ok bit of quick research never goes astray

http://www.sandsmuseum.com/cars/elise/thecar/engin e/toyota.html

Displacement (cc) 1795
Bore x Stroke (mm) 82 x 85
Compression 11.5
Valve Train DOHC 4 Chain Driven VVTL-i
Aspiration natural
Cylinder Block Aluminum w/MMC liner
Bore Pitch (mm) 87.5
Bore wall (mm) 5.5
Valve Dia. (mm) Int 34 Exh 29
Max Power 135kw/7600rpm
Max Torque 180Nm/6800rpm
Size (LxWxH) (mm) 652 x 608 x 659
Dry weight 115kg

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Re: New Corolla engine Vs 4age comments Mon, 12 July 2004 02:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
http://www.users.on.net/~nark/2zzGE%20Engine.pdf
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Re: New Corolla engine Vs 4age comments Mon, 12 July 2004 02:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chain drive! Shocked cam chains are the devil!
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Re: New Corolla engine Vs 4age comments Mon, 12 July 2004 02:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Interesting, it is in an Elise..
2ZZ-GE that good huh? Hmmm not too familiar with it, its in the newest generation Celicas here?
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Re: New Corolla engine Vs 4age comments Mon, 12 July 2004 02:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
well a bog stock 1 made 111.9kw @ the wheels ont he dyno day
the worked 4age's made 90kw
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Re: New Corolla engine Vs 4age comments Mon, 12 July 2004 03:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
EvilJack wrote on Mon, 12 July 2004 11:45

is it true that they are chain driven not belt?



Seems Toyota is moving all to chain drive which is a good thing I think. One less problem to worry about.

Here's the tech doc for the 1ZZFE (similar to the 2ZZGE that is above)

http://www.spyderchat.com/1zzfe.pdf
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Re: New Corolla engine Vs 4age comments Mon, 12 July 2004 04:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
They moved to chain drive because the US has some requirements about longevity of engines and components before major things have to be replaced. A timing belt just struggles to meet the new time lengths.
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Re: New Corolla engine Vs 4age comments Mon, 12 July 2004 05:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Discussion and dyno results here:

http://www.twincam.org/forums/index.php?showtopic= 6363

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Re: New Corolla engine Vs 4age comments Mon, 12 July 2004 10:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
peak power at 7600rpm? thats nuts Razz

reackon ya can squeeze it into a ae82?? hehehe
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Re: New Corolla engine Vs 4age comments Sun, 18 July 2004 10:14 Go to previous message
the new corollas are good my mums got one and of course i took it for a thrash.
but its rev limmitor is was to low like as soon as you hit 6500rpm BANG!!! it stops the party.
good power but and the gearing is real good for a shopping trolley.
and it chops falcadores and most other new 4cyl like protege and the new pulsars.
handlings to sloppy for my likeing so im gonna throw on a set of lowered springs when i take the car in for service.
hopefully she wont notice hehehe. Very Happy
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