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So... anybody thrown a 1UZ into an MA61? Fri, 23 July 2004 08:24 Go to next message
There's the question.
Will it fit, are there mounts available, will I have to make my own, headers, will cross member clearance be an issue, gearbox possibilities, results, etc.
I want to know it all.
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Re: So... anybody thrown a 1UZ into an MA61? Fri, 23 July 2004 13:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
SEARCH!

Will it fit: Yes.

Are there mounts available: NO

Will I have to make my own headers: Modify stock

Will cross member clearance be an issue: YES - need a front sump.

Gearbox possibilities: Auto with factory computer, or stock W58 with aftermarket ECU.

Results: alot of money spent
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Re: So... anybody thrown a 1UZ into an MA61? Fri, 23 July 2004 13:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yes, my apologies, I forgot about the search thing in my anticipation.
Nobody else reply please.
Thankyou though Blacksupra.
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Re: So... anybody thrown a 1UZ into an MA61? Fri, 23 July 2004 13:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sorry.
The beauty of it is, in buying a Mk2 I have more money than if I bought a Mk3... which is a bit of a plus.
Plus it's a very straight car with all the features, everythign works, a perfect base.
No more posts now.
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Re: So... anybody thrown a 1UZ into an MA61? Sat, 24 July 2004 04:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
BlackSupra wrote on Fri, 23 July 2004 21:36

SEARCH!

Will it fit: Yes.

Are there mounts available: NO

Will I have to make my own headers: Modify stock

Will cross member clearance be an issue: YES - need a front sump.

Gearbox possibilities: Auto with factory computer, or stock W58 with aftermarket ECU.

Results: alot of money spent

My mounts MAY work.

I'm still trying to get someone to photograph a set of MA61 and MX73 5MGE block mounts.

But according to an EPC they are the same.
I need photos tho
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Re: So... anybody thrown a 1UZ into an MA61? Sat, 24 July 2004 06:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
apparently the mx73 ones are the same as ma61 i thought?
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Re: So... anybody thrown a 1UZ into an MA61? Sat, 24 July 2004 06:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
V8_MA61 wrote on Sat, 24 July 2004 14:40

apparently the mx73 ones are the same as ma61 i thought?

Yeah, everyone THINKS they are.

I want photos to prove it.
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Re: So... anybody thrown a 1UZ into an MA61? Sat, 24 July 2004 06:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
early model came with 5me right? They are identical im sure!

And 5mge vs 5me blocks = same ???
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Re: So... anybody thrown a 1UZ into an MA61? Sat, 24 July 2004 07:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
MX63 and early MX73 had 5m-e's
Most MX73 have 5mge's

And blocks are the same.

I dont know if they changed the x-member at all though
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Re: So... anybody thrown a 1UZ into an MA61? Sat, 24 July 2004 07:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
wouldnt think they would, just for the new motor, which is same bottom end/ where mounts matter anyway!
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Re: So... anybody thrown a 1UZ into an MA61? Sat, 24 July 2004 07:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
It's not such a bad conversion at all - you keep the W58, you CAN use the factory computer if you so desire, you can get a bellhousing from CRS, I'd highly recommend you ditch the factory exhaust manifolds, and you'll need to make up some mounts. LS400/Celsior sump will fit fairly well. Go do it!
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Re: So... anybody thrown a 1UZ into an MA61? Sat, 24 July 2004 07:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Guys, I just got a sexchange.
There's something really wrong with the gearbox... the stick will only move up and down, it's got letters instead of numbers, and I can't find the clutch pedal.
Response is down a bit too.
I do'nt know what's wrong.
But I think it might help the conversion... it means I can use the auto/comp from the Soarer/Crown/LS400/Celsior. Which I'm sure is a good thing.
Just to let you know, before I got my sexchange, I double-clutched up and down, heel-toed, very smooth manual driver but unfortunately I had to take what I was offered.
Sad

EDIT: Just added LS400/Celsior to the donor cars.

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Re: So... anybody thrown a 1UZ into an MA61? Sat, 24 July 2004 07:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
So, convert it to manual...

Like so many others of us.
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Re: So... anybody thrown a 1UZ into an MA61? Sat, 24 July 2004 07:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yeah, I will, I can't stand this box.
I'll update youz bitches on my progress.
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Re: So... anybody thrown a 1UZ into an MA61? Sat, 24 July 2004 08:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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So... anybody thrown a 1UZ into an MA61?


These guys did.
http://www.performancescene.net/psimg/images/uza64/100704/yes%20we%20drove%20over%20two%20hours%20straight%20on%20the%20highway.jpg
http://www.performancescene.net/psimg/images/uza64/100704/supe%20looks%20almost%20stock%20in%20the%20front.jpg
http://www.performancescene.net/psimg/images/uza64/100704/NO%20OIL.jpg

[Updated on: Sat, 24 July 2004 08:30]

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Re: So... anybody thrown a 1UZ into an MA61? Sat, 24 July 2004 08:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
You dong
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Re: So... anybody thrown a 1UZ into an MA61? Sat, 24 July 2004 08:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
"unit has no oil, don't be a fucktard and forget to check that after a conversion"
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Re: So... anybody thrown a 1UZ into an MA61? Sat, 24 July 2004 08:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gt - as soon as i saw the topic i was about to search for that conversion page..... Laughing
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Re: So... anybody thrown a 1UZ into an MA61? Sat, 24 July 2004 08:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yes, yes, I know. Everyone's a comedian...haha. Very Happy

Anyway to answer the question, if you want a manual, buy a Crown halfcut and ditch the ECT ecu. If you want an auto, just buy whatever - auto control is in the ECU so it's less shit you have trace out and rewire. If you're not sure what box you eventually want to run, buy the Crown one. Wiring diagrams for these are absolutely everywhere (thanks to Kdog).
You'll a front sump. The different sumps have been listed a billion times. With regards to engine mounts, you'll probably need to make new uppers, but see if the Crown uppers come close the MA61 lower bits.
The driver's side exhaust is close to the steering shaft, but a decent system will clear.
The manual conversion side of things has been covered a few times too.
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Re: So... anybody thrown a 1UZ into an MA61? Sat, 24 July 2004 11:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i'd throw one in her!!! Very Happy
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Re: So... anybody thrown a 1UZ into an MA61? Sat, 24 July 2004 22:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Regarding Mounts.

The RH mount is identical for 82-85 MA61 Supras and 81-88 MX6/7 Cressidas with the 5M series engine. Only the LH mount was changed, Slightly beefier.
82 MA61 Supra = 80-82 MX62 Cressida
83-85 MA61 Supra = 83-88 MX6/7 Cressida

So according to that, my mounts WILL work for a bolt in UZA61

http://oz-enet.com.au/~peewee/mounts/mount_steel_3.jpg


Anyone want a set???
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Re: So... anybody thrown a 1UZ into an MA61? Sat, 24 July 2004 23:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
GT, I like the rear engine conept, and is the offset to the left to compensate for an exceptionally overweight driver?
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Re: So... anybody thrown a 1UZ into an MA61? Sun, 25 July 2004 12:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
BlackSupra wrote on Sat, 24 July 2004 18:33

"unit has no oil, don't be a fucktard and forget to check that after a conversion"


and ya coolant overflow bottle is hooked up Razz Razz Razz Razz

ring a bell??
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Re: So... anybody thrown a 1UZ into an MA61? Sun, 25 July 2004 12:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
a minor oversight

took a while for it to get cooking though Laughing
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Re: So... anybody thrown a 1UZ into an MA61? Sun, 25 July 2004 12:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
V8_MA61 wrote on Sat, 24 July 2004 16:40

apparently the mx73 ones are the same as ma61 i thought?

my rubber engine mounts for 1jz (which ma61 5me mounts are meant to be used) are mx73 instead.. exactly the same
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Re: So... anybody thrown a 1UZ into an MA61? Sun, 25 July 2004 12:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
How the furk do you turn off email notification??????
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Re: So... anybody thrown a 1UZ into an MA61? Sun, 25 July 2004 12:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
in your profile settings.
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Re: So... anybody thrown a 1UZ into an MA61? Sun, 25 July 2004 12:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ohhh the irony... I just got another notification.

Yeah I've looked, I'll have to look harder.
Thanks. (really)
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Re: So... anybody thrown a 1UZ into an MA61? Sun, 25 July 2004 12:41 Go to previous message
CrUZsida?
Give me a set of those mounts.
I may even sweeten the deal by giving you money and paying for shipping.
My electronic mail is bigred_dude@hotmail.com
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