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15 year import rule...
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Thu, 29 July 2004 11:53
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What is it and what is going to change?
I have heard so many people saying different things on this topic. 
The reason I am asking is because i would really like a Chaser (JZX81) and next year they will be 15yrs old. What does this mean? Is the rule going to still be around? Enlighten me, please. 
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perth WA
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Thu, 29 July 2004 12:14
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It is my understanding that, although nothing is set in concrete, they will be changing it in some way. this may even include making the new rule to 25 or 30yo cars, instead of 15yo. Try prestigemotorsport.com.au and look in there "industry update" section for a detailed list of information
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perth WA
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Thu, 29 July 2004 13:24
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Also, just a note. If you cant find what your looking. Ring DOTARS. It is always suggested that you do so just to make sure it is eligible. If they do change the rule, you could still import one under SEVS. which would require compliance.
Hope this helps
Cheers
Jeff
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Thu, 29 July 2004 13:28
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Just in-case you can't be fragged. This is the latest update from the site
Please note that the following statement was recently added to the DOTARS website. Obviously changes to the 15 year rule are still under consideration, but it is just taking them a little time to work out how best to tackle it. When / what changes may occur are up to DOTARS, however we expect from their statement that they intend to make changes to at least prevent 1990 and newer models from being imported under this rule in the future. What this means of course is an announcement on a change to this rule sometime in the next 6 months. It also seems to indicate by default that 1989 models should be considered OK for the rest of this year.
If you want to have some impact on the process and to have a chance at maintaining the rule long enough to enjoy a large range of 1990+ models, you should make your views known to DOTARS and the relevant politicians now. With a solid response, this may be enough to postpone or moderate any intended changes. Guidance on how you can go about this can be found at the following link:
http://www.prestigemotorsport.com.au/?/au/news/def ault.asp?mode=Industry+News
ALERT - IMPORTATION OF VEHICLES 15 OR MORE YEARS OLD
The Government is currently considering the responses to the discussion paper on the Importation of Vehicles 15 or More Years Old and the options outlined in the paper.
Prospective importers should be aware that there may be changes to the current regulations. You should not assume that vehicles manufactured in 1990 will be allowed to be imported should the regulations be changed.
Cheers
Jeff
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Thu, 29 July 2004 13:41
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| stumpy wrote on Thu, 29 July 2004 23:28 |
Just in-case you can't be fragged.
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How did you know? 
Thanks for the info.
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Fri, 30 July 2004 08:37
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This is absolute fuckin bullshit!
changing the 15yo rule to 25-30yo rule makes me furious, It makes no sense whatsoever except to deter ppl importing cars at all. I mean cars of that age will be defected off australian roads striaght away unless these old imported cars are in excellent nick (not many would be!)
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Fri, 30 July 2004 08:41
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Stupid greedy goverment! 
who wants to protest??
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Re: 15 year import rule...
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Fri, 30 July 2004 09:13
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name 5 cars that are 30yrs old in japan, do it off the top of your head.
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Re: 15 year import rule...
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Fri, 30 July 2004 09:14
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well if it goes to 25 that means you cant inport a car less than 25yrs old, ie you would be importing a 1979- celica legally and a 1980+ celica illegally if at all
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Fri, 30 July 2004 09:30
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that is shyt!!
so u cant go an import a r34 or an s15! y would they do such a thing, either way tha gov get $, they probably get mo from imported cars
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Fri, 30 July 2004 09:37
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well actually i think they make less... for example if you buy an r34 here it would cost $40k all taxes included, etc, etc... but if you import it it cost say $25k to buy and ship and then add tax and it ends up costing $35k
therefore there if $5k lost... $3k would be for nissan and $2k for gov
KEEP IN MIND THESE ARE HYPOTHETICAL NUMBERS AND PRICES but you get the idea. i dont think it is government but rather manufacturers cause they are the ones losing more money
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Fri, 30 July 2004 11:59
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Just to reiterate. The rules have not changed as yet and they will probably announce something early next year. The 25-30yo rule is just one of the possibilities, it may not change at all(fingers crossed).And you would still be able to import the models you can now under the 15yo rule, just you would have to get a compliance plate. I have based most of my information received of the prestige website. If you want to read all of the updates in regards to the 15yo rule, either go to the prestigemotorsport.com.au website and look in the 'Industry Update" section, or contact DOTARS. They will definitely have the latest on what is happening.
CHEERS
jeff 
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Fri, 30 July 2004 12:03
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Forgot to add  . Maybe there is someone on this site will be able to explain it more thoroughly. Someone who imports cars for a living?
Cheers
Jeff
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June 2002
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Re: 15 year import rule...
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Fri, 30 July 2004 21:57
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Be careful when reading articles on Prestigemotorsport. Remember, they are a business and they will tell you anything so that you use them as the middle man.
Do some research thru dotars and your local Customs office. Email heaps and ask questions.
When you are confident find an trustworthy exporter and Go for it! Everything will fall into place! Its easy and a good learning experience! You will save a lot of money!
I got my aw11 sc on the road for around 4000 cheaper then they are selling in sydney. *grins*
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Mon, 02 August 2004 00:20
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I've got my doubts about importers like Prestige - I mean, if you go on the website and check out the flow chart it reads;
1. You pay us $1100.
2. You find a car through us or by yourself.
3. We arrange for someone to buy the car and ship it back, but you pay for all of that seperately.
4. You organise and pay for everything else to do with bringing the car into Australia and Rego-ing it.
So WTF is the $1100 "service fee" for??? . To get someone to buy a car in Japan and that's all? It's no wonder guys like John Verban are cutting them to shreds on price etc, and still making money...
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Mon, 02 August 2004 05:58
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| lumpy wrote on Mon, 02 August 2004 10:20 |
I've got my doubts about importers like Prestige - I mean, if you go on the website and check out the flow chart it reads;
1. You pay us $1100.
2. You find a car through us or by yourself.
3. We arrange for someone to buy the car and ship it back, but you pay for all of that seperately.
4. You organise and pay for everything else to do with bringing the car into Australia and Rego-ing it.
So WTF is the $1100 "service fee" for??? . To get someone to buy a car in Japan and that's all? It's no wonder guys like John Verban are cutting them to shreds on price etc, and still making money...
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If you had any idea, instead of just talking out of your ass, then maybe then you would understand.
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Mon, 02 August 2004 09:05
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Lumpy, Have you actually gone through and read everything that Geoff has to say in regards to importing? I think not!! I am very happy to pay $1100 dollars to make sure that the buyer's have a good reputation, that most of the organizing is done by Geoff, I dont have to ring Japan direct, I have as much time to choose the vehicle I want so I am not under pressure to buy the first thing that comes along. You get the idea yet? And if Geoff can find the car I am after, I will be refunded 90% of the service fee.Seems pretty fair to me. I mean, You get what you pay for.
Cheers
Jeff
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Mon, 02 August 2004 09:08
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Also, just a quick thought, Lumpy, before you reply to this thread, Can I suggest you have a Good read of not only Presigemotorsport's site but a few other importer's sites as well. It may help you understand.
Cheers
Jeff
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Thu, 05 August 2004 11:40
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2 post previous it should have said "cant find", sorry.
Also, just a quick update that I received today via e-mail
Date Added 4/8/2004
The latest interesting development to note is that the previous Minister for Transport and Regional Services, the Hon. John Anderson MP was recently moved to another portfolio and was replaced with the Hon. Jim Lloyd MP.
This is important because before he moved on John Anderson had indicated a decision on the future of the 15 Year Rule by the end of July 2004. Obviously this is now past. What the new Minister intends to do and his timeframe for doing it are unknown.
However, with an election in the air it would seem to be very worthwhile to make the new Minister aware of the issue, as he is likely to be the one making the decision. It would be a tragedy for all enthusiasts if he were to do so without realizing the high level of public interest in retaining the 15 Year Rule as it is.
To maintain the rule long enough to enjoy a large range of 1990+ models, you should make your views known to the new Minister as soon as possible. There has never been a better chance to either postpone or moderate any intended changes. For the best impact, contact with the Minister should be meaningful and concise based on solid arguments and fact. If you need guidance on what to write or say, please read the information on this topic at:
http://www.prestigemotorsport.com.au/?/au/news/def ault.asp?mode=Industry+News
You can also download a thorough discussion paper on this topic from:
http://www.r34skyline.com/politics/our_submission/ r34skyline_com_15year_submission.pdf
Contact details for the Hon. Jim Lloyd MP are:
Email
j.lloyd.mp@aph.gov.au
Parliament House Contact
House of Representatives
Parliament House
Canberra ACT 2600
So my final piece of advise is that if you are thinking of importing a vehicle under the 15yo rule then research as much information as possible and talk to people that have done so. you may find it is not for you.
Cheers
Jeff
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Re: 15 year import rule...
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Thu, 05 August 2004 12:33
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I would be perfectly happy to import 15+ year old cars under SEVS, except for two reasons (and correct me if I misenterprited them):
1. There are a limit to the number of imports. You can't just say "Oh I want that Silvia, it costs a bit, but lets get it." No, if there have been too many Silvia's imported, bam, you have to wait till next year.
2. You can't import cars that where sold here such as an EVO III.
I would be more than happy to pay a bit more to get my car complied to safety regulations.
It's funny how Govorments are all "ra ra, it's so fantastic!" about globalisation and free trade agreements, untill the big companies start getting screwed by the little man.
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