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Location: Lismore, NSW
Registered: February 2003
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Ceramic Button Clutch's
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Wed, 04 August 2004 10:56
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How do you drive when using a ceramic button clutch? Do you drive normally (Letting it out slowly) OR drop it (Letting it out fast)???
Ive been told not to slip it and just drop it, What do you guys think?
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Location: Sydney
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Ceramic Button Clutch's
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Wed, 04 August 2004 11:04
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I've only recently started driving with a 5 puck srpung center, but from what i heard it varies lots depending on amount of pucks and whether it is sprung or not, I generally can let it out smoothly with a slight raise in revs and it goes off smoothly.. try to launch hard I have really only done the same but with more revs, need a lsd to test it out properly.
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Location: Wahroonga
Registered: June 2003
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Re: Ceramic Button Clutch's
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Wed, 04 August 2004 12:01
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well since its ceramic you can ease it out gently, and since its a button it will grab once it is fully out. I use a 5 puck ceramic sprung centre. i ease it out for a gental take off, and drop it for the drags.
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Ceramic Button Clutch's
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Wed, 04 August 2004 23:11
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Button clutches don't like being slipped a lot. Slipping it a bit as you take off from the lights is fine, but have you ever seen someone hold a car stationary on a hill using the clutch? That sort of thing will kill a button clutch very quickly!
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Location: newcastle nsw
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Ceramic Button Clutch's
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Thu, 05 August 2004 09:05
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ive got a 5 puk ceramic button, solid centre, works good for me, took a little while to get used too though, but still resonably smooth
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Location: Wollongong
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Ceramic Button Clutch's
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Fri, 06 August 2004 01:48
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Norbie wrote on Thu, 05 August 2004 09:11 | Button clutches don't like being slipped a lot. Slipping it a bit as you take off from the lights is fine, but have you ever seen someone hold a car stationary on a hill using the clutch? That sort of thing will kill a button clutch very quickly!
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Hehehe, that's for sure. I've got a 5 puck sprung centre Carbotic clutch, and I have maybe 3-5 seconds of slip time before it heats up and just starts to grab at the flywheel. It's fine for easy take offs or dumps, just not for riding for any extended amount of time.
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Location: Adelaide - Race Central
Registered: June 2004
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Re: Ceramic Button Clutch's
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Fri, 06 August 2004 02:41
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I got a ceramic cushioned button clutch (technical name!) To be quite honest, If you are a daily driver, i wouldnt recomend a button. but thats just me. its hard to drive with, and clutch pedal becomes anoyingly hard after a while. Very good for full launches and otherwise but a real headache in slow traffic. Decide carefully is all i can say
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Location: Sydney
Registered: June 2004
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Re: Ceramic Button Clutch's
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Fri, 06 August 2004 05:00
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hey guys! ma all iv ever heard of is 1ton brass buttons. whats all this otherstuff? ceramic, 5 puck, cushioned
PLEASE EXPLAIN?
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Location: adelaide
Registered: April 2003
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Re: Ceramic Button Clutch's
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Fri, 06 August 2004 05:29
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the 1 ton you have heard of is the weight of the pressure plate
the number of 'pucks' refers to what the clutch plate looks like (ie 5 puck has 5 little plates on it, looks like a star)
ceramic/organic/etc refers to the friction material on the clutch plate
cushioned, no idea but i assume it means sprung. you have a sprung centre which has 4 or 5 springs in it or a solid centre with none. the sprung centres are easier to drive, the solid ones make the clutch feel like an on/off switch.
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Location: Sydney
Registered: June 2004
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Re: Ceramic Button Clutch's
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Fri, 06 August 2004 05:36
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THANKS pro_ke much appreciated for the info.
gives me something to think bout when i eventually go down that path
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Location: Melbourne
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Ceramic Button Clutch's
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Sun, 08 August 2004 08:22
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Well every1 i have spoken to in the clutch industry has told me that you are not to ride a ceramic button clutch. Doing this will shorten the life of the clutch. In a perfect world (without police, tyre or diff wear) your ment to just let it out to protect the life of the clutch.
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Ceramic Button Clutch's
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Sun, 08 August 2004 08:33
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There's a difference between riding the clutch and briefly slipping it. You don't have to dump the clutch everywhere you go, it's prefectly fine to drive normally. I didn't change my driving habits at all when I switched to a ceramic clutch; that was over a year ago and the same clutch is still going strong.
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Location: Sydney
Registered: June 2004
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Re: Ceramic Button Clutch's
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Sun, 08 August 2004 08:40
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how much do they cost? roughtly?
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Ceramic Button Clutch's
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Mon, 09 August 2004 00:13
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From memory my original clutch with heavy-duty organic drive plate was $290, and the bloke said it would be an extra $100 for the 5-puck ceramic jobbie. I didn't think the ceramic clutch would be necessary so I turned him down, a decision I later regretted! So anyway, there's not a huge difference in price.
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Location: Sydney
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Ceramic Button Clutch's
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Mon, 09 August 2004 00:22
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how longs a piece of string
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Location: adelaide
Registered: April 2003
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Re: Ceramic Button Clutch's
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Mon, 09 August 2004 00:40
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i think mine cost about 370 for a 4 puck ceramic/metallic compound (for a 4k motor so it was not an off the shelf job)
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Location: Sydney
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Ceramic Button Clutch's
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Mon, 09 August 2004 00:56
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mine was 410+gst for the 5 puck sprung center and pressure plate + thrust bearing and spigot bearing. oh and an aligning tool
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