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lamborghini doors
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Tue, 17 August 2004 05:45
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Hey all,
just a question of taste really - what do you all think lambo doors (lift upwards - not gullwing) would look like on a ra23...
I'll do a photoshop of it later tonight when I get home from Tafe - and see what you all think 
I'm considering the conversion - just cos I think it would be something different
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Re: lamborghini doors
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Tue, 17 August 2004 06:36
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its crossed my mind on the ra28 
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Re: lamborghini doors
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Tue, 17 August 2004 06:40
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fair enough looks sexy to me 
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Re: lamborghini doors
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Tue, 17 August 2004 06:50
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They look sweet, but the kits to do it properly are pretty expensive...I vaugely remember $2000 or so.
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Re: lamborghini doors
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Tue, 17 August 2004 06:53
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i dont really care about the doors, but that front lip that moulds into the front flares looks dead sexy
and lambo style doors (not gullwing like them ones above) would be waaaaay too hard - you'd have to cut the roof (losing stuctural support) and somehow attach that part of roof to the door, which is pretty hard when there is no frame around the window. overall i think it would just weaken lots of parts of a perfectly good car
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Re: lamborghini doors
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Tue, 17 August 2004 07:43
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Lambo style doors aren't that hard... Don't have to cut the roof at all...
Metal King does them... Give them a call and question it... And $2000??? Thats cheap as chips...
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Re: lamborghini doors
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Tue, 17 August 2004 08:23
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And engineering them is a bastard...
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Re: lamborghini doors
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Tue, 17 August 2004 09:07
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they look mad.. and its definately 2000 worth of work
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Re: lamborghini doors
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Tue, 17 August 2004 10:31
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anyone evey lifted a lambo door? seriously?
...cause the RA23/RA40 doors are mighty heavy little bastards...
(unless you rebuilt doors with alloy )
you'd need some serious hydraulics or springs heliping you lift it up... plus the door/car frame would probably requires serious modification to suit - $2k might be good start...
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Re: lamborghini doors
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Tue, 17 August 2004 10:48
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That price is for a generic set of hinges and it is in US dollars (2-2.5K)
you need to modify the RA doors to hold lateral wind loads and yes some fancy work with the hydraulics.
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Re: lamborghini doors
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Tue, 17 August 2004 11:41
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ok just to set a fue thing on the level , first off the car in the picture has gull wing doors , the metal king door kitd dont open like a lambo door and are realy doggy ,and lambo doors are realy heavy id go as far as saying heaver than a 23 or 28 and trust me i open lambo doors every day , to do a lambo door on a 28 or 23 you would need to make a two way hindge that opend out a fraction first then went up , would be very hard just a little bit of mucking round , could be done for less than 2k tho
Dennis
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Re: lamborghini doors
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Tue, 17 August 2004 11:47
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Hi,
I bet Lambo doors aren't too popular on convertibles
seeyuzz
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Re: lamborghini doors
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Tue, 17 August 2004 14:46
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Grimboy-Gullwing doors pivot from the roof! they are called that because they open like wings! eg.delorean
those pictured are not quite lambo doors but are close enuf to be called Lambo!
lifting a door is much lighter than a bootlid full of glass. its just a matter of selecting an appropriate gas strut or linear actuator to assist or electrically lift it
http://www.autoloc.com/products/lambo.lasso
in all honesty i wouldnt bother with regular lambo. since thers soo much fab going into it why not suicide lambo?
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Re: lamborghini doors
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Tue, 17 August 2004 15:38
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| Alainve wrote on Wed, 18 August 2004 00:16 |
in all honesty i wouldnt bother with regular lambo. since thers soo much fab going into it why not suicide lambo?
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What do the doors open out and down, like a bridge???
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Re: lamborghini doors
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Tue, 17 August 2004 21:42
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I would like to see it proffesionally done and I think that would look a lot better than the kits. But it would take some extensice mods to do it "properly". I looked at doing this on mine and it is too difficult. The glass curves in for a start, the roof would need to be modded and the doors are pillarless, so it would need to somehow seal from coming straight down.
I am not a fan of those kits, mainly because you still have to open them out, then up. Plus I would be paranoid that someone new would go to open the door as per normal, pull hard to open and then goodbye hinge.
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Re: lamborghini doors
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Tue, 17 August 2004 22:00
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You guys all have heaps of valid points...
damn making me think about the reality of it all
I didn't get a chance to do my photoshop on the ra23 last night - will probably be thursday sometime now....
some of the kits that I've seen retail around the $2500 mark...seen a couple for supras / new celicas but not for anything older...
If i do end up doing it I'll probably have the doors custom made so they are light and have some other features I want in a door..
(like what you might ask....shhhh its a secret)
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Re: lamborghini doors
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Tue, 17 August 2004 23:06
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Hi,
| thechuckster wrote on Tue, 17 August 2004 20:31 |
anyone evey lifted a lambo door? seriously?
...cause the RA23/RA40 doors are mighty heavy little bastards...
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Use an RA25 or TA27 door. These doors are lighter for they do not have the side intrusion bars. Not good if you get whacked on the door by another vehicle, but lighter to lift up like a Lambo door. Besides, after adding all the weight (hydrulics, hinges, etc) to raise the doors, you could do with a lighter door.
seeyuzz
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Re: lamborghini doors
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Wed, 18 August 2004 01:00
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And then You would never get it engineered without side intursion bars.
The hinges that appear in the commecial kits available are a 2 stage opening type hinge. first the door opens about 6 inches conventionally to clear the door frame from the A-pillar then the door is lifted into the upright position. the result is very clunky and althou looks good when open, it looks pretty dodgy while opening. This type of hinge is a split scissor hinge.
A true Scissor hinge (lamboghini style) opens in one direction only and that is up. in the case of the RAXX application it would involve modifiing the roof to let the door pass, modifying the door to arc open and the front guards to allow the door to arc open. plus modification to the door itself to stop the door in the open position from being blown onto the roof of the car when open as this type of force isn't usually put on the door.
A gullwing door is a door the opens from the roof line like the DeLorean or the old merc Gullwing. Unless you really want it it is a bit of a waste of time in a pillarless door frame.
The way to look at it is to take cues from the Sera and the more modern attempts at Scissor Doors and create a 2D opening door that opens out and up in 1 motion (similar to the doors on the black one above) that would be way cool.
The ones I've got on the drawing board are the split type but I'm not happy with them so I'm trying a few other ways.
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Re: lamborghini doors
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Thu, 19 August 2004 14:10
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A little while back there were some plans for this for sale on ebay they said it would cost around $1000 if u got the machine done right this price did not include labour.
If u guys want a car to test on you can use my SA63 if not When i perfect it i"ll pay u guys to fix them to my car.
It's been a Dream of mine since i was just a little kid( i had a Toycar i rode around in with doors like that). I was also thinking if u needed hydro help to lift the door u could have a small air tank in the boot and a compresser. Then set it up so when u unlock the doors (assuming u have remote central locking)
The doors could open for you (men in black 2 style).
What do u guys recon ?
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Re: lamborghini doors
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Fri, 20 August 2004 04:08
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Yeah and then when the doors opened you could knock people out...
Now that would be fucken sweet, i reckon mookie is on the money here becuase if a compressor can lift or lower a vehicle then surely it could do the doors?
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Re: lamborghini doors
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Fri, 20 August 2004 04:24
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And if gas struts can lift a boot they will provide enough assistance to open a Scissor door.
Althou hydraulic would be way Cool
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Re: lamborghini doors
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Fri, 20 August 2004 07:11
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| Alainve wrote on Wed, 18 August 2004 02:46 |
in all honesty i wouldnt bother with regular lambo. since thers soo much fab going into it why not suicide lambo?
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Now thats a good idea.
Set the door up so it slides straight out 6 inches or so and then tilts back and up with the pivot at the bottom rear corner of the door. The mechanism could be hidden behind the rear trim panel and should seal well even with pillarless doors.
Mind you I'm not any kind of engineer so the finer details are not my problem. 
Callum
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Re: lamborghini doors
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Fri, 20 August 2004 07:53
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| Purple_Beasty wrote on Fri, 20 August 2004 17:11 |
Mind you I'm not any kind of engineer so the finer details are not my problem.
Callum
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I like that, That is good.
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Re: lamborghini doors
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Fri, 20 August 2004 08:39
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what happens when you want to get out in a carpark. wont the doors hit the car parked next to you?
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Re: lamborghini doors
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Fri, 20 August 2004 08:57
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its obviously not a conversion that you would do on youre average daily driver...
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