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Location: qld
Registered: May 2003
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Ta22 and flasher unit/sss
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Sun, 22 August 2004 08:13
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My blinker have stopped working im am trying fix them i have been told there is a seperate flasher unit for the blikers/harzards, is this true, my model is a early 72 model, my auto elec says most cars have one relay. my hazards are working so i pulled the steering wheel of to have a look at the swith but cannot work anything out.
thanks
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Location: Sydney
Registered: June 2004
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Re: Ta22 and flasher unit/sss
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Sun, 22 August 2004 08:37
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mate take out the flasher/hazard unit and check your hazards and see if they work... if it doesnt then its one unit but from iv been told the hazard works different to the flasher for emergencies
i got a spare flasher unit if you cant get one up in QLD, you can have it for $5 including post if you want
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: April 2004
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Re: Ta22 and flasher unit/sss
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Sun, 22 August 2004 09:59
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Where is the flasher unit situated, i'm having a similar problem. My left indicator only stays on, dosn't blink, but the right one does. The hazards work fine though.
Any ideas??
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Location: qld
Registered: May 2003
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Location: Sydney
Registered: June 2004
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Re: Ta22 and flasher unit/sss
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Sun, 22 August 2004 11:52
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TheNav: your issue is 100% earthing so dont bother with the unit, just get a piece of long electric wire and check the earth of each blinker. one end on any blinker bolt and other end on good clean metal (engine best) and find out which isnt earthing correctly. onc determined then rectify (PS make sure you are indicating to the left when testing )
ta2272: OK FOUND IT!!! got the wiring diagram for the '22, the hazard box is the actual hazard switch. it does go through the flasher unit but is earthed to the dash itself via the hazard switch. also the switch is directly connected to the indicator lights on dash. thats why hazards always work no matter what... i knew there was a logical explanation
but dude do the blinkers come on at all when indicating? even if they stay on... also do you have the same issue as TheNav where one side works and the other doesnt? here is something you can try, get a 12volt battery. connect a wire to neg and attache to engine, attach another wire to pos and to blinker and see if they work individually (basically give direct power to each blinker individually to see if they come on)
BUt mate if you can give me every little detail in the world of the issue, basically answer these:-
- when indicating right do the blinkers come on and stay on?
- when indicating right do the blinkers come on and flash?
- when indicating right do the blinkers stay off?
- when indicating right do the blinkers flash once?
- when indicating left do the blinkers come on and stay on?
- when indicating left do the blinkers come on and flash?
- when indicating left do the blinkers stay off?
- when indicating left do the blinkers flash once?
- are any blinker globes burnt?
- have you tried what i just mentione to TheNav?
please answer the above and i will move on to the next step
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Location: qld
Registered: May 2003
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Re: Ta22 and flasher unit/sss
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Sun, 22 August 2004 13:23
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BUt mate if you can give me every little detail in the world of the issue, basically answer these:-
- when indicating right do the blinkers come on and stay on?
Nothing comes on
- when indicating right do the blinkers come on and flash?
Nothign comes on
- when indicating right do the blinkers stay off?
Yes
- when indicating right do the blinkers flash once?
No nothing
- when indicating left do the blinkers come on and stay on?
No nothing
- when indicating left do the blinkers come on and flash?
No nothing
- when indicating left do the blinkers stay off?
Yes
- when indicating left do the blinkers flash once?
No nothing
- are any blinker globes burnt?
All blinkers work when i use hazards.
- have you tried what i just mentione to TheNav?
I have not tried what u said to the nave thought i can tell you where i stated noticing faulty blinkers,
6 months ago when i had a flat battery my blinkers were coming on and staying on this went away the next day, 2 weeks ago they stopped working i hopped in the car the next day and they worked fine for a day then the next day they worked for one corner and they have not blinked a flash since.
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Location: Melbourne
Registered: August 2003
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Re: Ta22 and flasher unit/sss
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Sun, 22 August 2004 14:41
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You've been driving in a straight line since two weeks ago? Shit you must be at Mt. Isa by now.
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Location: qld
Registered: May 2003
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Re: Ta22 and flasher unit/sss
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Mon, 23 August 2004 00:06
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Yep its a bit scary i have to go straight if someone is up my arse, No one uses indicators in QLD any way Well in Noosa they dont,.
Fade u there.
Thanks
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Location: Sydney
Registered: June 2004
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Re: Ta22 and flasher unit/sss
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Mon, 23 August 2004 00:54
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yeah mate still here... use hand signalsto turn
yeah mate flasher unit is gone... i said this before, you can go to local parts place and get an electronic flasher unit and use that or stay original doesnt make any difference at all...
do you have ab alarm on the car?
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Registered: June 2004
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Re: Ta22 and flasher unit/sss
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Mon, 23 August 2004 01:50
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the nav: i'm not sure about celicas, but when my indicator stays on and doesn't flash, it means there's a blown globe. check all of your globes first.
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Location: qld
Registered: May 2003
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Re: Ta22 and flasher unit/sss
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Mon, 23 August 2004 02:12
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but the hazards work and dont they use the same flasher unit, e.i shouldnt the box still work for the indicators.
thanks
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Location: Crapberra
Registered: September 2003
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Re: Ta22 and flasher unit/sss
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Mon, 23 August 2004 03:53
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I checked my wiring diagram and it would seem that they do use the same flasher signal, but have independant wiring
http://www.geocities.com/khi_santh/resource.html
I had a similar problem not too long ago (hazards working but idicators not) and found that by bumping the wiring loom under the steering wheel the blinkers started working, hence dodgy wire somewhere between the indicator switch and the turn signal flasher. You may have a dodgey wire too??
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Location: qld
Registered: May 2003
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Re: Ta22 and flasher unit/sss
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Mon, 23 August 2004 04:15
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Yeh i just tried a new flasher and the same hazards and no blinkers, wonder what i start trying to fix now, should i take it to an auto elec.
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Location: Sydney
Registered: June 2004
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Re: Ta22 and flasher unit/sss
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Mon, 23 August 2004 04:41
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you could take to auto elec but the last thing you can try is to feed pos power direct to unit to see if flashes. if it does then it is wiring from steering wheel. if it still doesnt flash then wiring harness good luck sourcing that
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Location: qld
Registered: May 2003
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Re: Ta22 and flasher unit/sss
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Mon, 23 August 2004 04:51
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ok ill do that were would i start were would i try feed power directly to, i have a spair 12volt battery and wire but were am i connecting power..
thanks
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Location: Sydney
Registered: June 2004
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Re: Ta22 and flasher unit/sss
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Mon, 23 August 2004 05:05
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damn dude i left the wiring diagram at home and wont be home till bout 6.30pm... if you can follow the indicator steering switch to the connecting plug, determine which wire it feeds and follow to blinker ass and that will be the pos... unfortuneately thats all i can do for you ATM sorry mate... but ill post when i get home... also ill try and take a pic of the diagram and post it up
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Location: Crapberra
Registered: September 2003
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Re: Ta22 and flasher unit/sss
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Tue, 24 August 2004 02:23
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Uhhh, if you want a good wiring diagram for a 22, go to the link I posted earlier , has colour codes for the wires and has helped me a lot with my elec problems.
ps. more direct link for your convenience
http://www.geocities.com/khi_santh/files/wiring.pd f
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Location: Sydney
Registered: June 2004
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Re: Ta22 and flasher unit/sss
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Tue, 24 August 2004 02:38
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DAMn thats a good doagram but there seems to be a few differences than the paper one i have... basically being the hazard/turn sgnal
BUT it does have good detail
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Location: qld
Registered: May 2003
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Re: Ta22 and flasher unit/sss
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Tue, 24 August 2004 03:44
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mmm ok well ill have to give something ago tonight dono what thought i have the swith and switch/horn loom out of the car is there naything i should test on it?
Thanks
This is so gay i may take it to auto elec its hard driving without blinkers abit scary to.
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Location: Bottom of the hill, Sydney
Registered: April 2004
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Location: Crapberra
Registered: September 2003
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Re: Ta22 and flasher unit/sss
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Wed, 25 August 2004 02:46
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If you want to avoid the expense of an auto elec get yourself a multi meter (if you do not already have one), and do the diagnosis yourself.
With the multi meter negative wire, find a good earth point somewhere on your car preferably straight onto the chassis. Then using the positive lead on the multi meter, start checking each wire (plug/connector) from the point of origin (where the power comes into the circuit), then follow it along to each plug testing each plug as you go - you will need to have the ignition on and the idicator on too (make sure your checking the right wires for the indicator you have turned on). When you fail to get a power reading that's your dodgey wire. Sounds simple but takes a lot of fart assing around; but in the end will save you heaps of money with an auto elec.
ps. Thanks for the feedback on the diagram, took me 4 days to do, but I wanted a good copy to put up on the web. So sick of blurry wiring diagrams
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Location: qld
Registered: May 2003
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Re: Ta22 and flasher unit/sss
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Fri, 27 August 2004 07:35
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Ok guys i have been tinkering with the car and i have found a relay in the engine bay which is related to the blinkers it is a 6 pin relay, the wires in the wiring loom have 6 pins in them for the blinker, have you guys ever hered of this, when i feed direct powewer to it it click but blinkers do not comone.
And it isnt horn or headlight realy as they still work when realy is disconeected.
thanks
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Location: Sydney
Registered: June 2004
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Re: Ta22 and flasher unit/sss
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Fri, 27 August 2004 07:39
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can you get a pick of it? or where in the bay is it exactly?
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Location: qld
Registered: May 2003
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Re: Ta22 and flasher unit/sss
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Fri, 27 August 2004 07:51
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do you have msn?
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Location: Sydney
Registered: June 2004
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Re: Ta22 and flasher unit/sss
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Fri, 27 August 2004 09:40
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nah sorry
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Location: Crapberra
Registered: September 2003
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Re: Ta22 and flasher unit/sss
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Sun, 29 August 2004 13:24
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Sorry dude, I've got a 72 model and I don't have any relays in the engine bay what so ever. I think you might need to call in a proffesional...
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: April 2004
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Re: Ta22 and flasher unit/sss
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Thu, 09 September 2004 04:49
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Hi all
I have a 73 model TA22 and just the other day my indicators stopped working. My hazards work fine though. Anyone got any ideas on what's wrong with it and how to fix it? Also, the CHG light is staying on. The car's fuel and temp gauge stopped working as well but then fixed itself up after about 2 mins. Any ideas anyone?
Thanx
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Location: Sydney
Registered: June 2004
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Re: Ta22 and flasher unit/sss
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Thu, 09 September 2004 08:19
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CHG light staying on is alternator issue... could be loose belt, alternator, regulator or wiring. start by taking alternator off and getting it checked at auto electrician, then go to belt (change it anyway to be safe)
after that unless your an electrical type person may need to get it checked
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Location: Crapberra
Registered: September 2003
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Re: Ta22 and flasher unit/sss
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Thu, 09 September 2004 22:46
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fade-e:
Any chance you can get me a copy of your diagram, would love to compare notes.
ps. Mines just a cleaned and reworked version available on sixworks website.
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Location: Sydney
Registered: June 2004
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Re: Ta22 and flasher unit/sss
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Fri, 10 September 2004 03:13
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cant get my hands on a scanner to get diagram on PC. tried taking a photo of it but that didnt get too far
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