| Author | Topic |
|---|
Location:
Madrid - Spain
Registered:
August 2002
|
|
Non Genuine Big End Bearings
|
Mon, 23 August 2004 03:11
|
 |
Well all good things must come to an end.
After 9 months of fun, my 1G-GTE has let go of a big end bearing. (I think a day at Wakefield may have helped  )
I got a quote from Toyota for replacement bearings (they do have some in stock) and they want $40 plus tax each. This is roughly 4 times what they would cost for any other make of car. I can't see the point of pulling the sump off and only doing one bearing, so a set will cost me close to $300.
Question 1. Does anyone know if non-genuine big end bearings are locally available for these engines.
Question 2. Has anyone tried to take a sump off without removing the engine. I am hopeing that I can just undo the gearbox crossmember and undo the engine mounts. I should then be able to lift/tilt the engine enough to take the sump off. I am using a RA crossmember.
Thanks
Anthony
|
|
|
Location:
Terrigal
Registered:
May 2002
|
|
Re: Non Genuine Big End Bearings
|
Mon, 23 August 2004 04:08
|
|
Mate if it helps I have a friend at Toyota NZ, he usually lets this kinda stuff go for quite cheap. Want me to get you a quote?
Also the exchange rate pretty much offsets the postage costs.
Cheers
Joel
|
|
|
Location:
Madrid - Spain
Registered:
August 2002
|
|
Re: Non Genuine Big End Bearings
|
Mon, 23 August 2004 04:12
|
|
Yeah that would be great Joel. At the moment, I am assuming that the crank is still good and that they are nominal bearing sizes.
If the crank is stuffed, then I think the old motor will be going back in.
|
|
|
Location:
Melbourne
Registered:
May 2002
|
|
Re: Non Genuine Big End Bearings
|
Mon, 23 August 2004 06:00
|
|
2s bearings are the same size - you need 1.5 sets of course. can supply if you require
T
|
|
|
Toymods Social Secretary
Location:
Sydney
Registered:
July 2002
|
|
Re: Non Genuine Big End Bearings
|
Mon, 23 August 2004 07:55
|
|
yeah there is a guy from the twincam.org forums who works for Toyota NZ and gets all the good shite.
|
|
|
Location:
Canberra
Registered:
May 2002
|
|
Re: Non Genuine Big End Bearings
|
Mon, 23 August 2004 11:45
|
|
Anthony, it seems as though the guys have almost got you sorted with bearings. May I suggest, that instead of all the tilting etc. why not support the engine with an engine hoist, or "sky hook" (Sits on the strut towers and supports engine underneath.) Then remove your crossmember and then the sump.
regards Chuck.
|
|
|
Location:
tallahassee FL usOFa
Registered:
May 2002
|
|
Re: Non Genuine Big End Bearings
|
Mon, 23 August 2004 12:56
|
|
forget it, the crankshaft & rod are damaged beyond what a new bearing will correct.
any manufacturers bearings will be OK
|
|
|
Location:
Madrid - Spain
Registered:
August 2002
|
|
Re: Non Genuine Big End Bearings
|
Mon, 23 August 2004 21:39
|
|
Thanks Chuck, I was thinking of doing it that way, but my engine crane creeps a little. I was hopeing that once the sump was off I could drop it back into it's mounts. If I can't do it that way, I might remove the crossmember.
Allen, if the crank is damaged, I have a slightly tired Gen2 engine that can go in. I can't see the point in getting a crank ground. It has only just started rattling, so I hope the crank isn't too bad.
T, good call on the 2S bearings, I might look around for them too.
Thanks fellas
Anthony
|
|
|
Location:
Terrigal
Registered:
May 2002
|
|
Re: Non Genuine Big End Bearings
|
Mon, 23 August 2004 23:45
|
|
Hey Anthony, the guy in NZ can get them around $28 a set (the 2 halves).
Cheers
Joel
|
|
|
Location:
Madrid - Spain
Registered:
August 2002
|
|
Re: Non Genuine Big End Bearings
|
Tue, 24 August 2004 05:54
|
|
|
Hey, what car did the 2S come in??
|
|
|
Location:
Terrigal
Registered:
May 2002
|
|
Re: Non Genuine Big End Bearings
|
Tue, 24 August 2004 05:57
|
|
|
SA63 celica I think.
|
|
|
Location:
south east - melbourne
Registered:
March 2004
|
|
Re: Non Genuine Big End Bearings
|
Tue, 24 August 2004 06:14
|
|
| gold28 wrote on Tue, 24 August 2004 07:39 |
Thanks Chuck, I was thinking of doing it that way, but my engine crane creeps a little. I was hopeing that once the sump was off I could drop it back into it's mounts. If I can't do it that way, I might remove the crossmember.
Allen, if the crank is damaged, I have a slightly tired Gen2 engine that can go in. I can't see the point in getting a crank ground. It has only just started rattling, so I hope the crank isn't too bad.
T, good call on the 2S bearings, I might look around for them too.
Thanks fellas
Anthony
|
DUDE WITH THE RATTLING U HAVE SAID , what does that feel like , my soarer 1g-gte makes this shivering vibrating sound when i start it up everyday , when its doing the cold start thing , when its warm noise is gone and car is ok , no vibrating nothing , , although if u listen very closely when idling after a long drive u can feel a small kinda shake, vibration thing normally occurs in large shopping centers where the whole ground kinda vibrates due to all the pumps and machinery working in the plant rooms --- if u get my drift
coud this be a seroius issue for my car ive always been a bit worried about it , dunno what to think of it
sorry for long post
|
|
|
Location:
Madrid - Spain
Registered:
August 2002
|
|
Re: Non Genuine Big End Bearings
|
Tue, 24 August 2004 06:24
|
|
Not really a vibration, more like it just sounding like a rock in a tin can (not too loud though)
Ever since I put the engine, it has been doing it quietly for about half a second on startup then ran smoothly. But lately it started to do it on idle. It isn't a vibration, just a rattle.
If your worried, get a mechanic to look at it. My guess for your car is that it might just be a loose exhaust manifold. Get it checked out though cos it may cost you a lot more if you don't.
|
|
|
Location:
south east - melbourne
Registered:
March 2004
|
|
Re: Non Genuine Big End Bearings
|
Tue, 24 August 2004 06:27
|
|
|
oh damn , thanks for that , i think mine makes the rattle too them , when i start it , its makes a rattle for a split second just as u turn the key then its all gone , then comes the damn vibrating thing , lolllllllll would this happen if te center bearings o drive shaft are gone , as they have a lot of play in them
|
|
|
Location:
Madrid - Spain
Registered:
August 2002
|
|
Re: Non Genuine Big End Bearings
|
Wed, 25 August 2004 02:59
|
|
supposedly 2S-C is the same bearing kit as 3S-FE and costs about $50 retail. I have the dimensions of these and will measure up the crank this weekend.
Indian - I am not entirely sure what your trying to explain, probably best to take your car to a mechanic for advice before something breaks.
|
|
|
Location:
Adelaide, SA
Registered:
May 2002
|
|
Re: Non Genuine Big End Bearings
|
Wed, 25 August 2004 04:21
|
|
ACL (I THINK) have bearing sets for 1G-GTE's... roughly $65 I believe.
Just make sure you get the right set... some 1g-gte's have larger big end bearings.
|
|
|
Location:
Madrid - Spain
Registered:
August 2002
|
|
|
Registered:
August 2002
|
|
Re: Non Genuine Big End Bearings
|
Sun, 29 August 2004 09:38
|
|
Goooooooooooooooone! 
|
|
|
Location:
Adelaide, SA
Registered:
May 2002
|
|
Re: Non Genuine Big End Bearings
|
Sun, 29 August 2004 09:42
|
|
Ouchies!
The same happened to mine, but not as bad, and on the first big end. I've yet to actually drive the car with the 1g-gte in it though 
|
|
|
Location:
Ipswich
Registered:
October 2003
|
|
Re: Non Genuine Big End Bearings
|
Mon, 20 September 2004 04:15
|
|
I just rang toyota brisbane, and was quoted $32 a set from precision something-or-other, out of Japan.
Dunno if this helps at all, i tried Repco, as an ACL stockist, and they didn't have anything.
|
|
|
Location:
Madrid - Spain
Registered:
August 2002
|
|
Re: Non Genuine Big End Bearings
|
Mon, 20 September 2004 09:27
|
|
Yep that will be $32 a pair, ie multiply that by 6 for a full set.
I ended up getting them through Lander Toyota for about $190 at trade prices. Now I just have to wait a couple of weeks for them from Japan.
|
|
|
Location:
Ipswich
Registered:
October 2003
|
|
Re: Non Genuine Big End Bearings
|
Mon, 20 September 2004 10:31
|
|
Yeah, thats what I meant, I would have bought them then and there at $32  . Guy told me 2-3 weeks from Japan, $192, paid up front. That wasn't trade prices, though, i'm pretty sure.
|
|
|
Location:
townsville NQLD
Registered:
February 2004
|
|
Re: Non Genuine Big End Bearings
|
Mon, 20 September 2004 11:45
|
|
she gooowne alrite
is it hard doin bearings while its still in the car, balancing the crank while u are gettin dripped by oil? it seems it would make a mess
|
|
|
Location:
Madrid - Spain
Registered:
August 2002
|
|
Re: Non Genuine Big End Bearings
|
Tue, 21 September 2004 08:26
|
|
|
Nah once you have the sump off, it's pretty easy. The crank stays in (I am not changing the crank bearings) and you just unbolt the conrod caps and change the bearings. Fortunately my crank wasn't damaged, so there isn't any need to machine it. If it was, I wouldn't bother with the engine. Just change it out for another complete motor.
|
|
|
