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Intercooler piping	Tue, 31 August 2004 12:37

Ok there has been small discussions about this in the past but nothing really came from them. What are peoples thoughts about the material to use for intercooler piping? Alloy or stainless? Pros Cons? Thanks [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: Intercooler piping	Tue, 31 August 2004 12:57

Alloy is cooler than stainless [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: Intercooler piping	Tue, 31 August 2004 13:00

Cooler as in temp or cooler as in bling bling [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: Intercooler piping	Tue, 31 August 2004 13:05

thermo wrapped aluminium is da bomb. Or thermo wrapped titanium if you can afford it. I was quoted for a full pipes setup for Draven car - 3 inch piping for the cooler, all silicone hoses, $600. Entire kit weighs 580 grams you'd prolly wanna wrap it though, cause it's thin walled aluminium so it'd get a bit of heat soak from the engine bay. -J- [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: Intercooler piping	Tue, 31 August 2004 13:20

or hpc coat it [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: Intercooler piping	Tue, 31 August 2004 13:24

Your shout? [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: Intercooler piping	Tue, 31 August 2004 13:26

So alloy seems to be the trick? What wall thickness is recommended? [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: Intercooler piping	Tue, 31 August 2004 23:28

Mild steel with HPC coating is the way to go IMO, if you're not made of money that is. I did this on the poopra and it's extremely effective without costing an arm and a leg. [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: Intercooler piping	Tue, 31 August 2004 23:48

Isn't HPC coating pricey? If it's not, then I might have to go get it done! Stupid 7M and it's stupid cooler piping going over the block and turbo [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: Intercooler piping	Tue, 31 August 2004 23:50

It ain't cheap but you get what you pay for. If your inlet piping is going near hot things I especially recommend HPC coating! Aluminium alloy seems like a bad idea since it conducts heat even better than steel... [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: Intercooler piping	Tue, 31 August 2004 23:55

I definitely wouldn't recommend an alloy unless you wrapped it (or HPC coated it). In my case yes, my inlet piping goes near hot things. I was going to go for the thermo wrap option cause it's a whole lot less of a pain in the arse. You can thermo wrap it while it's still attached, and it doesn't cost the earth. Need to pull the whole schmozzle out to get it HPC coated, and it's more expensive by the sound of things Ballpark figure for HPC coating? Full intercooler piping cost you $100, $1000? -J- [Updated on: Tue, 31 August 2004 23:57] [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: Intercooler piping	Wed, 01 September 2004 00:02

I got my intercooler piping bent up for $200 in 2" stainless 4 pieces of mandrel bent pipe... one hole in my chassis Just ask around a bit... I found a lot of places didn't want to know about intercooler piping, until I talked AAA Exhausts into it [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: Intercooler piping	Wed, 01 September 2004 00:42

lol once again i find that people that have nothing to do with anything car related say alloy isnt the way to go when the fastest cars in the australia and the world use alloy for the intake plumbing. ok to put it finally to rest i will give you the phone number and i will pre warn joe that people that think alloy isnt the go are going to come and see him and say the 300k you wasted on being the fastest sport compact in the world is wasted buy using alloy ntake piping. ill give you the address but you must pm me and tell me when you are going so i can be there! so what you are saying that every turbo lemans car and F! car and indy car that would be well over 10 billion dollars combined you could have told them not to use alloy and just use stainless or mild steel! come on guys! do a search and listern to people that know not 16 year old kids that are lucky to do the easy work on there car let alone have any knowledge on deveolpment over the last 20 years. my best advice! if you listern to what most people write on this forum,an F1 car would be using 10 litre v12 engines that make 15ohp and had 5 inch wide tires, so listern to the actual people that have a little idea around here. alloy is the way to go if you can afford it. no you dont have to wrap it or coat it if you dont have the money but it helps a little(racing every little bit helps) unless you have a huge budget, but then you wouldnt be asking you would be telling your mechanic! how many of you fantasy people pay $380 per valve! oh none geeze thats hard to believe, cause your telling people alloy is only good if you wrap it or jet coat it!how many of you have seen 1000hp from the wheels fom 2.3litres? pull your heads in if you dont know, and stop giving people shit advice. HyDrA alloy is the way to go! pm me and ill explain why and were you can get it cheaper. mick [Updated on: Wed, 01 September 2004 00:54] [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: Intercooler piping	Wed, 01 September 2004 01:15

ment to add! joorsh titanium, mate get a life. tell me who on the planet is using titaniam mandrel bent intake on a car worth less than a million dollars. haha ived used sheets of titanium for undertrays but titanium is very hard to weld and expensive to weld. it needs a closed enviroment to do it. a set of titanium rods are around the $5000 mark and they are forged with a machine can you imagine the cost of doing you piping with it! i can get titanium mufflers for $800 so intercooler pluming would cost arount the $5-7k mark. i suppose if your going to dream, dream big!lol mick [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: Intercooler piping	Wed, 01 September 2004 01:27

Yes, anyone who doesn't use uber-expensive materials like they do in F1 is obviously a 16 year old kid who knows nothing about cars. For those of us who live in the real world, mild steel works fine. Sure it's heavier, but we're talking 1-2kg here; I'd rather spend the extra money elsewhere. [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: Intercooler piping	Wed, 01 September 2004 01:44

I run aluminium pipe work (not coated) on my car from filter to turbo to cooler to throttle body (so the whole lot). Just about got another car back together which is essentially the same as mine but with all mild steel pipe work (used due to cost and ease of manufacture in the garage at home). Once it's running I will do some comparisons in air temps at various points along the inlet tract. You can't beat the bling value of some polished aluminium pipes though I doubt most people on here would notice gains/losses either way using one material or another. I think the cost and ease of fabrication usually establishes what most people go with. I know sweet FA about the technicalities of anything, I just know about things I have tried, and will only comment as such. I do enjoy reading these posts though when good info is forthcoming. Cheers. I hope this stays informative and doesn't degrade into trash talk. [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: Intercooler piping	Wed, 01 September 2004 01:48

Agreed Norbie! I used stainless because it was easier, and cheaper for the exhaust shop, and thus cheaper for me. They couldn't paint it in house. They did give the outside a coat of paint though, which made the whole setup much sexier. They even lipped all the pipes! kingmick, I don't need alloy intercooler piping... i'm not after a dyno queen, I think the money I saved will be better put to use getting my ARC intercooler cleaned up (thanks bbaacchhyy! i cant wait to try it out...) [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: Intercooler piping	Wed, 01 September 2004 01:52

norbie alloy isnt expenssive anymore. a 90deg 2.5 inch is about 35 dollars which is the same as most people used to pay for stainless. lol they have been using it for 20 years so its bound to get cheaper:) [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: Intercooler piping

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ke382TG wrote on Wed, 01 September 2004 11:44

You can't beat the bling value of some polished aluminium pipes though Smile

I doubt most people on here would notice gains/losses either way using one material or another. I think the cost and ease of fabrication usually establishes what most people go with.

The reality is that alloy is good for bling as it can be polished and can be lighter than S/S and mild steel.

As for heat conductance.

Think about heatsoak under your bonnet for a moment and after about 10 minutes driving, it won't matter a zack. Don't belive me ? get the car running for a bit and then climb in under the hood and close it and see what it feels like Razz

Just because someone used it on a 100000 hp car doesn't mean anything. Rolling Eyes

The two points above that I have hightlighted, and Norbs last comment sum it up basically.

Go with what you can afford and what you like the look of. Cool

I defy anyone to prove, that in the REAL world, the gains for the AVERAGE car (like most here) will not notice the difference.

Q.E.D. Twisted Evil

Personally, mine is a mixture of S/S, Mild steel and connectors. Why ? 'Cos that is how it came, I'm adding in some mandrel S/S bends (cos the supplier that I go to doesn't do mild steel and I don't need bling) to adapt it from fitting a MZ20 to MA61.

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Re: Intercooler piping	Wed, 01 September 2004 02:04

well said ke382tg!well said. the only plus side of alloy is that its much cheaper now and ir weighs less and workes better!for day to day you prob wont notice a diffrence but track days like sprints or full field you will. the little diffrences add up, but to do it the cheapest it possable can you would go exhaust pipe etc and there would be little to gain but you also have to think of rust inside the pipe going into the engine etc. if i had a limited budget and skill i would go, steam pipe turbo manifold and exhaust pipe inlet plumbing. for day to day it will work well but you miss out on the horsepower gains. horsepower gains once you hit a point with an engine cost a huge amount of money to get 10 or 20 hp. the question was what is best for the job etc and alloy is affordable now, its taken 20 years to get to this point but now its the go. mick [Report message to a moderator]

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ke382TG wrote on Wed, 01 September 2004 11:44

You can't beat the bling value of some polished aluminium pipes though

I doubt most people on here would notice gains/losses (Edit: I should have said however insignificantly small) either way using one material or another. I think the cost and ease of fabrication usually establishes what most people go with.

bbaacchhyy wrote:
The reality is that alloy is good for bling as it can be polished and can be lighter than S/S and mild steel.

As for heat conductance.

Think about heatsoak under your bonnet for a moment and after about 10 minutes driving, it won't matter a zack. Don't belive me ? get the car running for a bit and then climb in under the hood and close it and see what it feels like

I don't know if you took what you quoted me on out of context but, it was meant to mean that the minute differences in the use of different materials for piping would not be noticed by the likes of you or I Smile

As for heat soak, I am well aware of how hot an engine bay gets etc etc, I think what people are discussing is this heat soak and how different pipe materials transfer this heat into the air travelling through the pipes (at least this is what I was hoping the discussion was going to get into Rolling Eyes

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That is why some were earlier talking about coating and wrapping pipes to minimise potential heat soak from being transferred into the inlet air inside the pipes.

Cheers.

Edit: my quote inside a quote didn't work properly, oh well.

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Re: Intercooler piping	Wed, 01 September 2004 02:14

My alter ego is a bit geeky, it knows a bit about overclocking and materials used for heatsinks... Aluminium is used because it is a great conductor of heat... and it can disperse heat into the air really well too. Steel however isn't good at all... it's terrible in fact. For short runs, perhaps on a dyno or on the drag strip, aluminium would probably be alright since it kinda suites the scenario. Stainless however would be better in the hills where you are always changing speeds, and not always getting good airflow under the bonnet to help remove heat... but thats why we use intercoolers, which see much higher airflow. I'll take a gamble and say stainless pipe work, aluminium intercooler. [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: Intercooler piping	Wed, 01 September 2004 02:17

bbaacchhyy not meaning to be rude but im guessing 18 and on your first car! to put what you said into the real world of cars and not text booking!a race car when it finishes a race it does a cool down lap! when you a racing or driving hard on the street everything gets hot ,but the under bonnet still has air flowing through it. so on the slower part of you street driving or racing the under bonnet temps lower. and the lighter something is the qicker it cools. things that heat soak are heavy like cast iron and billet steel and they take longer to come up to temp but take longer to cool. a little material heats quicker but also cools alot quicker so when you are going slower which is most of the time as even a race car goin flat strap around the track only has full throttle for about 35% of the whole lap or there abouts there is cool air rushing past the piping! how many stainless steel or steel radiator or intercoolers have you seen? theres a good reason for that. im just glad its this way otherwise my rolla would be 4 ton with lead intercooler etc. mick [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: Intercooler piping	Wed, 01 September 2004 02:19

Kingmick: I think more people would be listening to you if you used some punctuation as what you have typed is very hard to read. for interests sake: I have mild steel that is painted and will be heat wrapped as I am a poor ass uni student Seems to do the job [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: Intercooler piping

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kingmick wrote on Wed, 01 September 2004 11:47

bbaacchhyy not meaning to be rude but im guessing 18 and on your first car!

Chris Davey is right... you need to go back to school Smile

Thats if you aren't already there, and just wasting the schools money!

I stand by my previous logic... stainless or even mild pipe work, aluminium cooler.

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Re: Intercooler piping	Wed, 01 September 2004 02:27

good thoughts HyDrA but its the same dyno,drag,circuit or hills(im not much into dyno or drags)but its all the same!on a hill you are using max load with lower speed ! so it is even more crucial that you use a material that gets rid of its heat quicker, so the lttle air that does cool it works as well as possable. my cooler core are acid dipped to an inch of there life so they can take 65 psi of pressure(no i dont use 650psi but it gives a saftey margin) and are as light and have a big surface area(hence why they are never straight up and down, even in my road cars) !lmao like a skiny girl and a fat one. you can hammer away at a skinny girl and she will be ready before the next round, but a fat girl will need to get her breath back!sorry made me laugh [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: Intercooler piping

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kingmick wrote on Wed, 01 September 2004 12:17

bbaacchhyy not meaning to be rude but im guessing 18 and on your first car! to put what you said into the real world of cars and not text booking!a race car when it finishes a race it does a cool down lap! when you a racing or driving hard on the street everything gets hot ,but the under bonnet still has air flowing through it. so on the slower part of you street driving or racing the under bonnet temps lower. and the lighter something is the qicker it cools. things that heat soak are heavy like cast iron and billet steel and they take longer to come up to temp but take longer to cool. a little material heats quicker but also cools alot quicker so when you are going slower which is most of the time as even a race car goin flat strap around the track only has full throttle for about 35% of the whole lap or there abouts there is cool air rushing past the piping! how many stainless steel or steel radiator or intercoolers have you seen? theres a good reason for that. im just glad its this way otherwise my rolla would be 4 ton with lead intercooler etc.
mick

Oh dear. Can't be bothered separating out the issues here so I'll reply in one.

No. 36 and at least 3 cars and 4 motorbikes (not a huge amount, but still, none were std.) Airframe fitter by trade, Ass Dip in Aerospace Engineering, BTech in Mechanical & Manufacturing Engineering, Grad Dip in Manufacturing Management, employed as Senior Manufacturing Engineer at GMH.

So what about a cool down lap ?

Yes, the lighter something is the quicker it cools, but the rate depends on the material, shape, environment, temperature differential, and thermal characteristics of the surrounding environment.

Been racing, and I was at FT more than 35% of the time. Try about 70 to 80%. 13B J Port RX2 Improved production race car.

At no point did I say that steel should be used for cooling such as a radiator etc.

I merely pointed out that for the AVERAGE car in the real world, the difference would be minimal. No where did I say that alloy was no good. Rolling Eyes

Due to the higher thermal loads in racing, once the air gets past the radiator/IC/oil cooler it is HOT !! The reason for radiators etc. Hence the heat in the engine bay is lots. No cool air in there !!! Don't beleive, as I said before, climb under the bonnet and see. Or if that is too hard, just stick a thermocouple under there

Sigh. Thats enough for now.

Oh, and next time, use punctuation to make it easier to read. Please.

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Re: Intercooler piping	Wed, 01 September 2004 02:34

FFS GO TO BUNNINGS BUY SOME DRAIN PIPE AND BENDS IN 3 INCH AD PUT THEM TOGETR WITH PLASTIC SEALENT , ALL ONE FOR LESS THAN 75 BUCKS LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: Intercooler piping	Wed, 01 September 2004 02:50

if you race IP then you must use carbie or dont have data logging, because i would bet a national car against yours that you could never ever race a circuit unless its oval at 70% unless you are way under powered for handling. god if we use 2 litres per km at most tracks at 70% WOT we would use 5+ litre per km! as i said no offence ment. a rotary uses a bit more WOT because power comes on later than noraml engine but no were near 70% unless its a standard engine in a good handling IP car. 70% would mean in a full feild race of 5 laps you would use close to 50 liters. instead of 25-30 in a rotary. SORRY about the punctuation and typos i type as quick as i can with my two fingers and no i dont have 6 on each hand!and i cant be bothered speel checking or looking at grammar ! mick [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: Intercooler piping	Wed, 01 September 2004 02:57

lol! use the materials that are in your budget and that you can use if you want to have a go yourself! even plastic drain pipe will work just make sure you use the solvent and the glue! if you can afford to use alloy use it if not use what you can afford, then change it later. on a standard engine there isnt much diffrence between them! mick p.s debate brings ideas and ideas are what push us forward! imagine this forum 100 years ago! henry ford! look i can build a 100 cars a month if i put them on production line. steam engine weapon! no hand built is always going to be quicker. [Updated on: Wed, 01 September 2004 03:02] [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: Intercooler piping	Wed, 01 September 2004 03:07

Maybe you should sit down, think, and as a result type less sh!t and more useful information... as well as making sense. I'm sure you have something good to say, but after reading a few of your posts my head is starting to hurt. Please try harder! [Updated on: Wed, 01 September 2004 03:08] [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: Intercooler piping	Wed, 01 September 2004 03:11

mine are mild steel that are just painted black in engine enamel.. and they work fine...not saying that other stuff isn't better though [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: Intercooler piping	Wed, 01 September 2004 03:11

lol which one!the left or right head. [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: Intercooler piping	Wed, 01 September 2004 03:17

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Re: Intercooler piping	Wed, 01 September 2004 03:23

Play nice fellas Don't underestimate the plumbing pipe!! I am sure my orange cannons have seen some serious psi inside them and not one has busted hehehehe. Thermal conduction from the combustion inside the chamber passing through the plastic into my hand is low too [Updated on: Wed, 01 September 2004 03:26] [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: Intercooler piping	Wed, 01 September 2004 07:42

Hey Bbaacchhy, did I ever piss myself when I read the 16yr old kid comment. kingmick hacked into me something like a year ago when I was new to the forum and described me as a pimply faced kid crying because I nearly crashed my car and said he was going to beat me up. Now at least there are some people on the forum who have met me and know how absurd this is. Mick my good man, I don't doubt that you have some experience in some of these area's, but dude, get some fucking social skills. and a bit more on topic, hydra where did you run your piping? [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: Intercooler piping	Wed, 01 September 2004 07:53

Right, I hope I can find some pics... Basically I have one pipe going through the right hand wheel well, the other ducks under the radiator. I'll post pics once I find them. [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: Intercooler piping	Wed, 01 September 2004 09:08

Mild steel is the best material for barbeque plates. -disperses heat evenly, hard wearing generally non toxic Stainless is shit for barbeque plates. - poor conductor of heat needs massive burners to heat evenly without cold spots. harder wearing than mild steel but is heavier and some grades are toxic Aluminium is also shithouse for barbeque plates. - altho the best dispersion of heat for even cooking also has downsides of very soft so plastic utensils should be used to avoid shavings in your sausages and has also been linked to alzheimers disease. in the end stop arguing like biatches over small things and think about your sausages [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: Intercooler piping	Wed, 01 September 2004 11:32

hhmmm which intercooler cooks my sausages evenly???? i agree... my pipes are Stainless and i'm sure that if i swap em to alloy the differences will be a complete waste of time...if i was to make em up again id prolly go with alloy cause they look nice but yeah i wouldnt go replacing the ones i have for alloy for such gains.. cool topic though interesting read, can be usfull to some people... [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: Intercooler piping	Wed, 01 September 2004 11:41

Holy shit this thread took off Norbie, you think stainless will achieve the same results as the mild steel once its HPC? For me stainless is more convenient than mild steel because I don't have to get it coated right and not worry about it rusting, plus I can get access to stainless cheap. [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: Intercooler piping

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Hey Bbaacchhy, did I ever piss myself when I read the 16yr old kid comment.

Yes, he was strangley silent on the technical points after I pointed out a few things Rolling Eyes

Shane, The results after HPC should be virtually identical. I'm not getting mine HPC'd yet, as I have spent too much already Shocked

, but will probably get done later.

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Re: Intercooler piping	Wed, 01 September 2004 23:08

Heheh funny how we haven't seen his list of credentials yet. Yes, the material the pipe is constructed from (mild steel/SS/alloy) will make SFA difference once it's coated, which is the point I was trying to make from the beginning - why spend the extra $$$ on fancy stuff like alloy? This is precisely why I chose mild steel, it's cheap and any exhaust shop knows how to use it. Of course if you prefer to use SS that will work fine as well. [Updated on: Wed, 01 September 2004 23:10] [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: Intercooler piping	Wed, 01 September 2004 23:13

Great stuff. Ok now what wall thickness is preferred? [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: Intercooler piping	Wed, 01 September 2004 23:18

umm.. street car, definatly use mild steel if you dont wanna spend heaps. it is only piping and you will notice fuck all difference with different materials. [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: Intercooler piping	Wed, 01 September 2004 23:23

I only wanted to use stainless cause I can get it cheaper than mild steel. [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: Intercooler piping	Wed, 01 September 2004 23:31

Intercooler piping doesn't need any real strength and corrosion won't be an issue, so go with thin-walled stuff to save weight. [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: Intercooler piping	Wed, 01 September 2004 23:32

This as in 1.6 - 1.8mm? [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: Intercooler piping	Thu, 02 September 2004 02:19

Interesting thread... Just wondering if mick knows/related to / is this person http://www.billzilla.org/smugstain.zip??? He certainly sounds familiar. I could be wrong though. Shane, So what have you decided on as the best solution for your situation / budget? [Updated on: Thu, 02 September 2004 02:20] [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: Intercooler piping	Thu, 02 September 2004 12:54

I'm not sure as yet. I can get stainless for the same price as mild so I would go stainless over mild. So i'll see what happens on the day. [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: Intercooler piping

Thu, 02 September 2004 13:39

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employed as Senior Manufacturing Engineer at GMH

If you're so smart why did it take so goddamn long to replace that f_cking horrible V6? Laughing

IN seriousness, I find this thread quite interesting... I am doing my cooler piping soon and am considering mild steel.. my main reason for choosing this is cost.. and the main reason I may decide against it is that I dislike the idea of that powdery surface rust you see on exhausts entering my engine!

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Re: Intercooler piping	Thu, 02 September 2004 22:26

1. That's why you HPC your pipes. 2. Even if you don't, the inside of your pipes will quickly be coated in a thin layer of oil, which means no rust. [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: Intercooler piping	Thu, 02 September 2004 22:59

ora thick layer, depending on the condition of your turbos... not htat I'd know [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: Intercooler piping	Thu, 02 September 2004 23:50

If you are feeling cheap and just want it to it do it's job, then this is what I did. Got some mild steel pipes made, included 3 pipes, AFM -> turbo, turbo -> IC, IC -> TB. Also included welding a BOV on to one, and installation for $170. I then wandered down to Clark Rubber and for $20 got some heat reflective rubber stuff and zip tied it one. It makes a noticeable difference, especially in my engine bay where the pipes where getting bloody hot to touch, and now are near ambient temperature. It does depend a lot on your turbo, boost, IC etc... but yea, I found for $200 you couldn't complain. Tripharn [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: Intercooler piping

Fri, 03 September 2004 01:10

tripharn wrote on Fri, 03 September 2004 09:50

If you are feeling cheap and just want it to it do it's job, then this is what I did.

Got some mild steel pipes made, included 3 pipes, AFM -> turbo, turbo -> IC, IC -> TB. Also included welding a BOV on to one, and installation for $170.

I then wandered down to Clark Rubber and for $20 got some heat reflective rubber stuff and zip tied it one. It makes a noticeable difference, especially in my engine bay where the pipes where getting bloody hot to touch, and now are near ambient temperature. It does depend a lot on your turbo, boost, IC etc... but yea, I found for $200 you couldn't complain.

Tripharn

doesent help people who want nice looking bays though

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Re: Intercooler piping	Fri, 03 September 2004 01:20

Nice looking engine bays are for those homo's you see in mackas carparks with the bonnet open, all standing in a circle masterbating on the car. -J- [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: Intercooler piping	Fri, 03 September 2004 01:22

LOL what he said. [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: Intercooler piping	Fri, 03 September 2004 01:29

Clark Rubber sell heat sheilding stuff!?! That may prove a bit cheaper than other places I was looking. [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: Intercooler piping

Fri, 03 September 2004 01:35

joorsh wrote on Fri, 03 September 2004 11:20

Nice looking engine bays are for those homo's you see in mackas carparks with the bonnet open, all standing in a circle masterbating on the car.

Laughing

-J-

lol.. i like my respectable engine bay.. clean... not shithouse like it was... and not over the top

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Re: Intercooler piping

Fri, 03 September 2004 01:40

7M-Brisbane wrote on Thu, 02 September 2004 23:39

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employed as Senior Manufacturing Engineer at GMH

If you're so smart why did it take so goddamn long to replace that f_cking horrible V6? Laughing

I'm not a Product Engineer, I'm just hired help in putting it together. Very Happy

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Re: Intercooler piping	Fri, 03 September 2004 03:08

I know i've kept you all waiting... but oh well... Excuse the lack of filter, I still need to pick one up (what should I get? apexi pod?) http://www.users.on.net/hydra/cars/celixx/images/s wap/pipe It's not pretty, but function takes priority over form [Report message to a moderator]

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