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nik3t
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BRAKES FOR 180BHP TA22 Mon, 06 September 2004 11:00 Go to next message
HI GUY JUST GOT MY TA22 ON THE ROAD FINALLY...

HAD BRAKE FAILURE AT HIGH SPEEDS.

AND YESTURDAY AFTER SOME HARD BRAKING MY FRONT BRAKES WERE SMOKING!!!!!!

ANY IDEAS OF WAT TO DO? CHANGE DISKS,ROTORS ETC??

HELP WOULD BE APPRECIATED

TA

NIK
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munki
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Re: BRAKES FOR 180BHP TA22 Mon, 06 September 2004 11:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
brake failure? Shocked

do a search quite a few people have done upgrades to their 22 brakes
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Re: BRAKES FOR 180BHP TA22 Mon, 06 September 2004 11:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
excessive use of the CAPS-LOCK key can also be a contributor?

seriously: make sure you rear brakes are up to scratch... maybe your front is doing all the work.

you might want to re-think your front brake pad material (can U get greenstuff for stock TA brakes?)

... and possibly installing the XT130 or even hilux calipers on a XT130 strut (if it would fit??).
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Re: BRAKES FOR 180BHP TA22 Mon, 06 September 2004 22:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
nik3t wrote on Mon, 06 September 2004 21:00

HI GUY HAD BRAKE FAILURE AT HIGH SPEEDS.

ANY IDEAS OF WAT TO DO?



Don't drive fast on Public Roads ! Laughing Laughing Laughing
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SeptemberSquallIndustries
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Re: BRAKES FOR 180BHP TA22 Mon, 06 September 2004 23:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
http://forums.toymods.org.au/index.php?t=msg&t h=26807&rid=3250&S=d0a61877461f223b226475f bba95d1cc&pl_view=&start=0#msg_231301
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Re: BRAKES FOR 180BHP TA22 Tue, 07 September 2004 04:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
same problem in my 280ZX RB25DTT Use Toyota High Ace four spot calipers, also before driving fast and furious you should have removed the rotors and machined them and put new pads all round. if you have disc-drum combo you are plain nuts. All go no stop means one day we will see you on the 7 Nightly news wrapped around a tree.
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SeptemberSquallIndustries
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Re: BRAKES FOR 180BHP TA22 Tue, 07 September 2004 05:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
RT104GT wrote on Tue, 07 September 2004 14:33

if you have disc-drum combo you are plain nuts


Please explain/qualify that statement.

[Updated on: Tue, 07 September 2004 05:12]

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RT104GT
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Re: BRAKES FOR 180BHP TA22 Tue, 07 September 2004 06:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Like how does it STOP?
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SeptemberSquallIndustries
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Re: BRAKES FOR 180BHP TA22 Tue, 07 September 2004 06:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
~70% of the braking effort is effected at the front of the car, where the static weight is heavier and the inertial force shifts dynamic weight during deceleration.

There's nothing wrong with adequately sized rear drums, greater improvements can be achieved by upgrading the front brakes.

How does it stop? Drive a TA22 with the Hilux/Pug/Corona upgrade and stock drums, let me know if (and why) you feel you need more than that.
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Re: BRAKES FOR 180BHP TA22 Tue, 07 September 2004 07:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
SeptemberSquallIndustries wrote on Tue, 07 September 2004 16:14

There's nothing wrong with adequately sized rear drums, greater improvements can be achieved by upgrading the front brakes.
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Exactly right, but the main problem with, and has always been is that of heat rejection.

Drums actaully can work better than discs initially and uinder certain conditions, but get them hot and their effectiveness starts to drop dramatically 'cos they can't get rid of the built up heat.

For a basic city car not involved in motorsport or excessive fanging, upgraded fronts and stock rears (with the correct balance) are a great start and better than nothing, but a proper MATCHED disc/disc combo will always win hands down.
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nik3t
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Re: BRAKES FOR 180BHP TA22 Tue, 07 September 2004 11:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
thanks guys for the feedback... that link was really impressive.. the only concern is that if i go for an all out conversion iva already changed the whole underneath,idler arms struts etc...and that with the peugot setup i dont know if my 17's will fit ....

ill work it out..

thanks
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SeptemberSquallIndustries
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Re: BRAKES FOR 180BHP TA22 Tue, 07 September 2004 12:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
What have you changed? What front end hardware is in use?
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nik3t
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Re: BRAKES FOR 180BHP TA22 Tue, 07 September 2004 12:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
replaced orginal partt with new ones... still cost me 1500.

idler arms,bushes,etc,adjust camber top mount...


so if i do a conversion i rekn i need to replace everything else..
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SeptemberSquallIndustries
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Re: BRAKES FOR 180BHP TA22 Tue, 07 September 2004 12:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
So replaced with standard parts? Then there's no problem.. you'd need to buy the new struts. They bolt to the standard steering arm, so all the steering linkages, idler, pitman, etc. are common and will not need to be changed.

Adjustable camber top mount can be fitted to the new strut/insert.
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Jonny2TG
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Re: BRAKES FOR 180BHP TA22 Tue, 07 September 2004 13:40 Go to previous message
I have HiLux 4spot brakes on mine, and I got the car smoking with hard braking (at the race track). Tyre smoke that was, the brakes were fine. Got drums on the back also.
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