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Re: 4age Vs 4agze
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Wed, 08 September 2004 08:49
 
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bump
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Brisbane, QLD
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February 2003
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Re: 4age Vs 4agze
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Wed, 08 September 2004 08:57
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Might be in the exhaust?
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I supported Toymods
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August 2002
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Re: 4age Vs 4agze
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Wed, 08 September 2004 08:59
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induction my friend
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Brisbane, QLD
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Re: 4age Vs 4agze
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Wed, 08 September 2004 09:01
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| ae86drift wrote on Wed, 08 September 2004 18:59 |
induction my friend
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listen to him, i was only guessing
he's a rolla boy and from what i can gather knows more about 4a's than me(no offence on the rolla boy comment...but its true  )
i was just assuming there might be different pipe work involved in the discharge area of the engine
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Adelaide
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May 2002
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Re: 4age Vs 4agze
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Wed, 08 September 2004 09:21
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Let Rex get this straight,..
You want to take a top little Supercharged motor thats tuned for forced induction and has an 8:1 C/R and tamer cams etc. Then strip it back to run N/A. So it can be super/turbocharged in the future.
You cant see a problem wit this?
Someone take away his crack pipe...
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sydney
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November 2003
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Re: 4age Vs 4agze
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Wed, 08 September 2004 11:31
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My question is: Why would you go backwards only to go forwards later????
Sounds like a waste of time and money if you ask me!
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August 2003
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Re: 4age Vs 4agze
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Wed, 08 September 2004 17:36
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Simple...
For the blind sided idiots.....
Insurance,
I am still under 25 and studying so I dont have great deals of money.......
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Canberra
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August 2002
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Re: 4age Vs 4agze
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Wed, 08 September 2004 21:22
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would it not make more sense tooooooooo.... say just get a 20valve for now? or just a 100kw motor and wack it in.. when ur 25, move to something thats S/C or turbo? 
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Brisbane
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February 2003
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Re: 4age Vs 4agze
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Wed, 08 September 2004 22:11
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Get some quotes before jumping to conclusions. With JustCar it would cost me the same to insure a 4AGE AE86 as it does to insure my 4AGZE AE86.
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brisvegas
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August 2004
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Re: 4age Vs 4agze
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Wed, 08 September 2004 22:46
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yeh same here..it's the same with just car insurence..for me 3rd party is around $330..and 3rd party fire & theft is around $660 (but you need to have a 2 point immobiliser) i have 3rd party fire and theft..quite happy with it..(the shit that i do if i fuck up it will be my fault anyway! and most of it's on track so it's not covered either)
as to the question the sound..the 4AGE has that hard tuned -nearly as good as- vtec note thanks to the Induction..and if you put quad throttle bodies, or twin sidedraft carbs on it..OHHHHHH!!!! lets just say it sound really good 
i really miss this *noise* as i like to put it..they sound soooo tough..the ZE sounds like its a forced induction motor (der!) it really sounds like it sucking the air in and forcing it out..and nearly everyone that i've heard..even under normal driving (with normal gear changes) has a kinda deep pop (or bang) the the exhaust..the ZE drivers will know what i'm on about..
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c'town, NSW
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May 2002
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Re: 4age Vs 4agze
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Wed, 08 September 2004 22:51
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alternatively i find it interesteing that u think the 4A-GE sounds so sweet.
i only rarely hear a good sounding 4A every blue moon (one or two at the dyno day), usually its its either the sound of farting through a straw or the sound of farting in a bucket.
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Re: 4age Vs 4agze
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Thu, 09 September 2004 00:29
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| drift86levin wrote on Thu, 09 September 2004 08:46 |
has a kinda deep pop (or bang) thru the exhaust..the ZE drivers will know what i'm on about..
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haha too true....i've been mistaken for a rotor few too many times
| rob_RA40 wrote on Thu, 09 September 2004 08:51 |
alternatively i find it interesteing that u think the 4A-GE sounds so sweet.
i only rarely hear a good sounding 4A every blue moon (one or two at the dyno day), usually its its either the sound of farting through a straw or the sound of farting in a bucket.
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mate obviously you haven't heard one that's done correctly. Shitty tin sounding corolla's with mandrel exhaust's don't count!
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Toymods Social Secretary
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Sydney
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July 2002
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Re: 4age Vs 4agze
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Thu, 09 September 2004 09:36
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in a word *BUZZZZZ*
dude, if you swap a motor into a car thats not standard, insurance companies wont like you, no matter what that motor is.
Why oh why is there so much love for the 4A??
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Toymods Social Secretary
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Re: 4age Vs 4agze
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Thu, 09 September 2004 12:03
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3S-G*
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Re: 4age Vs 4agze
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Thu, 09 September 2004 13:39
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Oh Id love a 3sg*. Not sure about how it efects balance of a 86 though.
But it is a damn hard conversion, I been harrassing people hwo have done it for info. Needs of money and patience.
Sorry the conclusion I had was that forced induction is a big no no insurance wise unless u r aged.
If that was a reality, the reason why detune a gze to NA then doing it then swapping engines in around 3 years is, I thought longterm it would be alot more cost effect and less stuffing around. And 20V are a bit more customisation cause of the dizzy etc I heard.
And I just love the sound of the 4age. I like any high revving things, closest thing Ill ever get to a V10/V12 sound...
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Re: 4age Vs 4agze
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Thu, 09 September 2004 22:56
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just so u know im not bagging the 4A i think its a top engine, hell i almost considered one for my KE35. As audioslaver says, im glad u all understand that like any engine these can sound horrid if done incorrectly (ie kudos for not blowing up at me for attacking teh 4A). This however should give u all incentive to make sure you make them sound good.
| no_tofu_speed wrote on Thu, 09 September 2004 23:39 |
And I just love the sound of the 4age. I like any high revving things, closest thing Ill ever get to a V10/V12 sound...
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son, are u on teh crack? are you saying the 4A sound can be closely compared to a V12 on song?
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Sydney
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April 2004
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Re: 4age Vs 4agze
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Thu, 09 September 2004 23:10
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My ZE has also been mistaken for a rotary 
Had a bunch of bogans yell at me 'GO THE ROTTTTORRRRR POWER!!!' in a falcon next to me. lol.
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Re: 4age Vs 4agze
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Thu, 09 September 2004 23:22
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| rob_RA40 wrote on Fri, 10 September 2004 08:56 |
son, are u on teh crack? are you saying the 4A sound can be closely compared to a V12 on song?
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No, he's saying it's the closest sounding thing to a V12 he'll ever get. Although not the awesome shrill that 12 cylinders churning is sync can create, they still sound closer to a V12 than a generic V6 or V8.
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