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Lug Nuts ... ???
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Fri, 10 September 2004 11:33
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problem:
ive got a set of wheels that originally came off a ford, and they came with a set of tamper proof lug nuts.
now the ford nuts are the wrong thread for toyota studs, so i have to find some replacemnt nuts that do fit. thing is, all the toyota nuts ive found are the wrong shape.
youll notice that the original ford nut (the long one) has a tapered tip, then the taper progresses into a straight machined section for a few mm before, finally, the drive face of the nut is encountered. the toyota nut just has the taper, then its straight into the drive face.
as such, the toyota nut fouls when fitted. the taper doesnt engage the wheel properly (if at all) as the shoulder of the drive faces binds into the edge of the hole in the wheel.
does anyone know a way around this?
can anyone think of any toyota nuts that have a shape similar to the ford nuts? does anyone sell lug nuts (not the tamper proof ones) that might have something that matches? as a last resort, am i forced to take the toyota nuts, and have them machined? if so, can anyone think of any 'extra long' toyota nuts that can have a bit machined into them, yet leave a decent amount of drive face remaining?
cheers
ed
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Gold Coast
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October 2002
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Re: Lug Nuts ... ???
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Fri, 10 September 2004 11:39
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what about hilux nuts? our old 82 had ford mags dunno if that helps but its a start.
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I supported Toymods
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Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: Lug Nuts ... ???
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Fri, 10 September 2004 11:40
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What kind or rims are you using? The photo of the wheel at the bottom looks like the washer is missing.
Also the nut on the right is to suit steel rims.
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c'town, NSW
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Re: Lug Nuts ... ???
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Fri, 10 September 2004 11:40
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just go buy some maybe?
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Re: Lug Nuts ... ???
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Fri, 10 September 2004 11:46
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rob - i havnt found any that are right
shane - the lug nuts the wheels were fitted with never had any washers - they relied soely on the taper, so im not sure if theyre meant to be installed with nuts that have washer.perhaps the wheel is just machined to accept the shape of the socket when installing/removing the nuts?? i dunno
yeah, that particular nut is from a steel wheel, but ive not found anything remarkable different
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Re: Lug Nuts ... ???
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Fri, 10 September 2004 11:46
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oh, theyre BBS rims
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c'town, NSW
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Re: Lug Nuts ... ???
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Fri, 10 September 2004 11:54
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i have a set u could possibly machine to size, they have a long shaft before the hex.
but they are going with the wheels im selling
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brisbane
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September 2004
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Re: Lug Nuts ... ???
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Fri, 10 September 2004 11:59
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Find a set of studs with the same thread as the ford nuts, punch out your old studs from the hub, and pop the new studs in ?
It is my professional opinion that a fastener should only be altered as a last resort, especially one like a wheel nut.
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Re: Lug Nuts ... ???
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Fri, 10 September 2004 12:01
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thanks rob, ill try and find the correct fitting ones frst though 
PS - toyota stud thread is M12 x 1.5mm
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Re: Lug Nuts ... ???
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Fri, 10 September 2004 12:03
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| fatts wrote on Fri, 10 September 2004 21:59 |
Find a set of studs with the same thread as the ford nuts, punch out your old studs from the hub, and pop the new studs in ?
It is my professional opinion that a fastener should only be altered as a last resort, especially one like a wheel nut.
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ford/toyota studs are completely incompatible. you cannot press a ford stud into a toyota hub, no on your life. nor are there any ford studs long enough for the application as it is - but thats acedemic.
and i agree, a fastener should not be modified. hence this post
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Re: Lug Nuts ... ???
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Fri, 10 September 2004 12:08
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| ed_ma61 wrote on Fri, 10 September 2004 22:03 |
| fatts wrote on Fri, 10 September 2004 21:59 |
Find a set of studs with the same thread as the ford nuts, punch out your old studs from the hub, and pop the new studs in ?
It is my professional opinion that a fastener should only be altered as a last resort, especially one like a wheel nut.
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ford/toyota studs are completely incompatible. you cannot press a ford stud into a toyota hub, no on your life. nor are there any ford studs long enough for the application as it is - but thats acedemic.
and i agree, a fastener should not be modified. hence this post
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Thats quite a pickle you're in then.
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Re: Lug Nuts ... ???
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Sat, 11 September 2004 03:08
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bump
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I supported Toymods
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Perth, Western Australia
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December 2002
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Re: Lug Nuts ... ???
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Sat, 11 September 2004 03:32
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Ed, the step in the Ford wheel nut is to allow a chromed steel or plastic hubcap to be retained without damage - these type of wheel nuts are common on XA-XD Falcons, but this doesn't help you with your dilema. Short of finding a 12x1.5 wheel nut that also retains a centre cap, my only other suggestion for you is to find a nut with a smaller drive width than the actual nut themselves, so you eliminate the binding drive faces - I have a few of these so they do exist.
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Brisbane
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November 2002
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Re: Lug Nuts ... ???
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Sat, 11 September 2004 03:46
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Try a Mk3 Supra wheel nut (also the same as some Camrys I believe). I can't remember exactly what they look like, as I haven't worked on a mk3 for over a year, but I'm fairly sure they are similar tot he ones you need.
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Melbourne
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May 2002
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Re: Lug Nuts ... ???
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Sat, 11 September 2004 08:23
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thanks adam - shall go hunting.
i have no dramas getting stuff from melb, so will give them a call
cheers
ed
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